The Syndicate

santy is dead

Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:55 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:52 pm I forgot about this game, wild
Santy pls.

That’s not even skill issue at that point. That’s a level up.

This is worse than the time FTF took a 90 minute shower.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:25 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:10 pm @pyxxy Why are you voting none of the people you said were your top wolf reads?
I hate textualism but

"People I _would_ vote today"

is quite literal for me.

Why does Creature or Scotty need another vote right now?

How would voting for either of them help town win when I know I have 30+ minutes left in EOD to post and solve and I can move onto one of their wagons at EOD if I feel like that's the right thing to do?

If those wagons hadn't taken off after my pool of 3, then yeah, I might be voting for one of them. Dya also has basically made an OGI Creature activity read that I respect. I already explained my feelings on Scotty (can link if you want). And I've interacted with Sporty about how I'm feeling out her and Dya.

That's about the gist of it. Any followup questions?

Why do you respect the OGI read if you're scumreading dy?

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:22 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:20 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:19 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.
Why are they bad? Especially this far out.
40 mins out when most people arent around is far out?

Yes. Honestly up to 10 minutes to close, I'll allo. Assuming we're dealing with too many lowposters (like here).

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:19 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Ties bad.

Why are they bad? Especially this far out.

Actually, it looks like he's been gone for over 36 hours.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:13 pm Thoughts on santygrass?

Impossible. He's been gone for over 24 hours.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:09 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:09 pm I didn't realize the cap would lift, but that's good.
Your cap was actually lowered.

Huh?

@pyxxy Why are you voting none of the people you said were your top wolf reads?

I didn't realize the cap would lift, but that's good.

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:00 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:55 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:54 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:34 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:43 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:38 pm

So I did not

I dunno wtf I said either, but I also am struggling to understand what you asked me
I was asking why you thought the lowposters were definitely a bad place to go when you had no wolfreads yourself? (Though you've since shared a wolfread that is another lowposter.) And also wondering what the vague "healthy suspicions" were being that none were referenced in your post.
I've always been against killing low posters I don't really know why. Maybe I shouldn't be so stingy or whatever with killing them but a lot of people I know are lowposters and they are very outspoken against killing lowposters

It just kinda feels like a shrug vote to me given the "healthy suspicions", which I meant like arguments between zenge and falcon, sloonei doing that peacekeeper thing, miranda, scotty, so on and so forth

Just the argument "he's not doing enough" is too shruggy for me with like 17 more people to look at today
You chose to vote a lowposter and have not pursued any of the above mentioned healthy suspicions? Why?
They are not all my healthy suspicions
Then why did you say they're a good place to consider voting?
Cause it might be. I was suggesting looking into those suspicions, if you don't like it then sure kill creature whatever. But just because I didn't come up with them or am following them doesn't mean they are bad

It might be? You don't even believe in them yourself. By that metric you never would have called out the voting in the first place. Also, I don't think Creature was a major wagon at the time of you saying that.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:00 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:50 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:38 pm I don't know how I feel about AM pressing on Dennis on that one particular point though, can anyone tell me if this is AI for AM?
Personally I like it for AM.

I think Seanzie (could be wrong) asked AM if AM focused on cases or tunneled or something like that. I think AM said roughly "nah/not any more than anyone else". But I think it was Seanzie finding another Seanzie-esque player. I townlean Seanzie atm, so I townlean AM by the transitive property of mafia math.
This definitely didn't happen.
@Animal Midwife this exchange:

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:08 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:59 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:56 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:55 pm

I’m not sure I understand the question. Can you rephrase?
AM seems to be known for their intensity. Do they tend to focus on specific people and push there?
No, I don’t think I’d say that’s something that AM “tends” to do any more or any less than anyone else.
What does AM tend to do then? Can you give me a TLDR on them?
She analyzes the posts players make, and the gamestate as a whole, decides who she thinks is the wolfiest and votes there.
This sounds like a very passive approach and does not match what I've heard others say about them.
It's how I interpreted this. Just me and my opinion.

I don't understand why Zenge saying something is the same as me saying something.

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:54 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:34 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:43 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:38 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:35 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:33 pm

What are you even talking about?
You never responded to this post @Dennis.
So I did not

I dunno wtf I said either, but I also am struggling to understand what you asked me
I was asking why you thought the lowposters were definitely a bad place to go when you had no wolfreads yourself? (Though you've since shared a wolfread that is another lowposter.) And also wondering what the vague "healthy suspicions" were being that none were referenced in your post.
I've always been against killing low posters I don't really know why. Maybe I shouldn't be so stingy or whatever with killing them but a lot of people I know are lowposters and they are very outspoken against killing lowposters

It just kinda feels like a shrug vote to me given the "healthy suspicions", which I meant like arguments between zenge and falcon, sloonei doing that peacekeeper thing, miranda, scotty, so on and so forth

Just the argument "he's not doing enough" is too shruggy for me with like 17 more people to look at today
You chose to vote a lowposter and have not pursued any of the above mentioned healthy suspicions? Why?
They are not all my healthy suspicions

Then why did you say they're a good place to consider voting?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:38 pm I don't know how I feel about AM pressing on Dennis on that one particular point though, can anyone tell me if this is AI for AM?
Personally I like it for AM.

I think Seanzie (could be wrong) asked AM if AM focused on cases or tunneled or something like that. I think AM said roughly "nah/not any more than anyone else". But I think it was Seanzie finding another Seanzie-esque player. I townlean Seanzie atm, so I townlean AM by the transitive property of mafia math.

This definitely didn't happen.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:39 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:37 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:31 pm Also I'm not ready for the closed nights. Infringing on my right to free speech as an AMERICAN on AMERICAN GROUND
What did I tell you about closed night?
You told me something?

Yes. I said to post a legacy if it stresses you out.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:31 pm Also I'm not ready for the closed nights. Infringing on my right to free speech as an AMERICAN on AMERICAN GROUND

What did I tell you about closed night?

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:52 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:43 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:38 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:35 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:33 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:33 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:24 pm

Do you see how it comes off to claim we should vote for someone other than lowposters when you don't give us any alternatives? How can you be so sure they're village without any wolf reads? Like you mention there being "so many healthy suspicions" so, if that's true, why aren't you pursuing those?
I mean I can tend to force something out of myself, admittedly pretty weak

Whereas you have been a very aggressive voice I find it hard to believe you don't have a suspicion

How can you be so sure they're wolf? It's like with low posters and hardly anything it's just statistics and chances are they are town because math and nonsense
What are you even talking about?
You never responded to this post @Dennis.
So I did not

I dunno wtf I said either, but I also am struggling to understand what you asked me
I was asking why you thought the lowposters were definitely a bad place to go when you had no wolfreads yourself? (Though you've since shared a wolfread that is another lowposter.) And also wondering what the vague "healthy suspicions" were being that none were referenced in your post.
I've always been against killing low posters I don't really know why. Maybe I shouldn't be so stingy or whatever with killing them but a lot of people I know are lowposters and they are very outspoken against killing lowposters

It just kinda feels like a shrug vote to me given the "healthy suspicions", which I meant like arguments between zenge and falcon, sloonei doing that peacekeeper thing, miranda, scotty, so on and so forth

Just the argument "he's not doing enough" is too shruggy for me with like 17 more people to look at today

You chose to vote a lowposter and have not pursued any of the above mentioned healthy suspicions? Why?

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:47 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:37 pm
Badvibes:
Pyxxytung - hedging for the sake of hedging in calling me not wolf but not town
Pawmarmot - not engaged. Marmot should be more engaged.
Bellosanty - for the memes but also content doesn’t thrill me
Mirandreavus - easy town read of me
Dedennis - defending pyxxy
like why wouldn't you vote pyxxy over dennis here
This is an excellent point. If Scotty is so convinced that pyxxy is scum, then a lesser vote against Dennis for defending pyxxy is not village behavior. If anything, it seems that Scotty is trying to go after low hanging fruit (the chaotic 14 year old) instead of actually solving.

Although I love the pokemon names and the animal reads, they just indicate that he has more ability to put forth toward this game than he is currently showing, which is amplified by the "shrug, I have a bad role anyway" defense.

For this reason,

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

What's your read on Dennis?

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:38 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:35 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:33 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:33 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:24 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:16 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:13 pm

When do you intend to vote?
Now see there's a good question

I have no clue I don't really suspect anyone
Do you see how it comes off to claim we should vote for someone other than lowposters when you don't give us any alternatives? How can you be so sure they're village without any wolf reads? Like you mention there being "so many healthy suspicions" so, if that's true, why aren't you pursuing those?
I mean I can tend to force something out of myself, admittedly pretty weak

Whereas you have been a very aggressive voice I find it hard to believe you don't have a suspicion

How can you be so sure they're wolf? It's like with low posters and hardly anything it's just statistics and chances are they are town because math and nonsense
What are you even talking about?
You never responded to this post @Dennis.
So I did not

I dunno wtf I said either, but I also am struggling to understand what you asked me

I was asking why you thought the lowposters were definitely a bad place to go when you had no wolfreads yourself? (Though you've since shared a wolfread that is another lowposter.) And also wondering what the vague "healthy suspicions" were being that none were referenced in your post.

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:37 pm
Badvibes:
Pyxxytung - hedging for the sake of hedging in calling me not wolf but not town
Pawmarmot - not engaged. Marmot should be more engaged.
Bellosanty - for the memes but also content doesn’t thrill me
Mirandreavus - easy town read of me
Dedennis - defending pyxxy
like why wouldn't you vote pyxxy over dennis here

I have a guess, but I'll let him answer first.

Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:33 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:33 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:24 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:16 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:13 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:11 pm I'd really rather not kill someone for low posting D1

It's just taking a shot in the dark rather than like, aiming at all. Later in the game I would be down because that's when they're a liability to town but with so many healthy suspicions being thrown around a shrug yeet is just a bad decision

Interpret this blanket defense as you may
When do you intend to vote?
Now see there's a good question

I have no clue I don't really suspect anyone
Do you see how it comes off to claim we should vote for someone other than lowposters when you don't give us any alternatives? How can you be so sure they're village without any wolf reads? Like you mention there being "so many healthy suspicions" so, if that's true, why aren't you pursuing those?
I mean I can tend to force something out of myself, admittedly pretty weak

Whereas you have been a very aggressive voice I find it hard to believe you don't have a suspicion

How can you be so sure they're wolf? It's like with low posters and hardly anything it's just statistics and chances are they are town because math and nonsense
What are you even talking about?

You never responded to this post @Dennis.

dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:07 pm AM - i'm catching up and seeing that creature's lack of activity is a big deal to you. he's outgrown that meta recently and there are things I can't talk about that I think are going on that might affect that

I see. Thank you for letting me know.

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:33 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:24 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:16 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:13 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:11 pm I'd really rather not kill someone for low posting D1

It's just taking a shot in the dark rather than like, aiming at all. Later in the game I would be down because that's when they're a liability to town but with so many healthy suspicions being thrown around a shrug yeet is just a bad decision

Interpret this blanket defense as you may
When do you intend to vote?
Now see there's a good question

I have no clue I don't really suspect anyone
Do you see how it comes off to claim we should vote for someone other than lowposters when you don't give us any alternatives? How can you be so sure they're village without any wolf reads? Like you mention there being "so many healthy suspicions" so, if that's true, why aren't you pursuing those?
I mean I can tend to force something out of myself, admittedly pretty weak

Whereas you have been a very aggressive voice I find it hard to believe you don't have a suspicion

How can you be so sure they're wolf? It's like with low posters and hardly anything it's just statistics and chances are they are town because math and nonsense

What are you even talking about?

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:17 pm Marmot gave me weird feelings because it felt like all of their takes were unoriginal and just hopping on bandwagons

Which takes were those? Also, ironic that you settled on a lowposter.

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:16 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:13 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:11 pm I'd really rather not kill someone for low posting D1

It's just taking a shot in the dark rather than like, aiming at all. Later in the game I would be down because that's when they're a liability to town but with so many healthy suspicions being thrown around a shrug yeet is just a bad decision

Interpret this blanket defense as you may
When do you intend to vote?
Now see there's a good question

I have no clue I don't really suspect anyone

Do you see how it comes off to claim we should vote for someone other than lowposters when you don't give us any alternatives? How can you be so sure they're village without any wolf reads? Like you mention there being "so many healthy suspicions" so, if that's true, why aren't you pursuing those?

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:11 pm I'd really rather not kill someone for low posting D1

It's just taking a shot in the dark rather than like, aiming at all. Later in the game I would be down because that's when they're a liability to town but with so many healthy suspicions being thrown around a shrug yeet is just a bad decision

Interpret this blanket defense as you may

When do you intend to vote?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:02 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:52 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:41 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:29 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:26 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:17 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:53 pm

I would like to congratulate you on somehow missing the fact that I am 3p hunting to such a degree that 3ps will be extinct by the end of this game, according to the opinions given in this thread.

So I would respond with no, Scotty is not slanking. I assume you agree?

3ps delenda sunt (if I keep making this joke maybe zenpai will notice me )
I see why people are POEing you.
Dennis isn't helping with that but that's what qualifies him for my not voting list

Would you be open to voting today for any of Creature, Scotty, or Sporty? y/n + why?
Dennis isn't helping with what?

I would vote Creature because he's not doing enough.
Dennis isn't helping with people putting me in their sus pools.

I don't think he's thinking about it. Maybe he's wolfing and trying to pocket me (I've gotten solidly townread by him as a wolf in two straight games, revenge is always an option). I don't think so, though.

But he's engaging and commenting on my posts in ways that amplify my typical desire to have some fun in the thread, which imo gets me sussed (NAI), often by people unfamiliar with me.

Exhibits in spoiler:
Spoiler: show
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:45 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:41 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:38 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:37 pm

What's a witch?
I know what a witch is, I mean like is it a thing in mafia terms to be clear
No I meant like a "real" witch, someone who can *accurately* tell the future, or knows things they have no way of knowing, based on non scientific means.
Ah

Yes. He is a witch.

No, I think he just has a good gut feeling

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:33 pm That post from pyxxy that everyone is calling hedgy is kinda towny to me

He's told me of this urban myth that runs through his family where sometimes he just gets like a gut feeling that he hasn't done as scum, and it's been used against me to catch me before
(^this is just pocketing tho, I'll admit)

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:21 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:24 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:09 pm I like Seanzie’s vibe.

I haven’t mentioned half of these nor expanded on the ones I have. But here’s where I’m at on D1:

Townvibes:
Mightyena
Seanzor
Nateran♂
Creature
Falcorphish
Seeloonei
SportPonyta

Badvibes:
Pyxxytung
Pawmarmot
Bellosanty
Mirandreavus
Dedennis
how am I not pyxxyveltal
This is so true wtf scotty
Dennis and I get along well so like jokey joke posting @ with each other's content comes across as normal to me, slightly towny even.

And my point is that Dennis doesn't realize that doing so is, imo, probably getting me to stand out a bit more, especially to your lovely SDN folks, who as I mentioned will likely find my content (especially D1) some combination of lacking/sus.

-------------

Is your Creature opinion purely based on (lack of) activity or is there anything else there pinging you as off?
His lack of activity is a big deal. Not sure why I need another reason.
I didn't mean to imply that you needed another reason. Just wanted to make sure I understood you correctly.

I gave a short list of three people when I asked before, so please don't take the following as a "gotcha! how come you aren't sussing the other low posters".

From the other "low" posters:
mightyrunner7 - 18 posts
dyachei - 17 posts
Creature - 15 posts
Kate - 14 posts
DrWilgy - 12 posts
SARdoghandler - 11 posts
genny - 6 posts

Do all of these players belong in the same low posting boat as Creature? Are any of them different from the other low posters, in your opinion?

Totally valid to throw up your hands and go "pyxxy idk wtf you're asking about or why, the game just started, shrug "

They're all lowposters.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:41 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:29 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:26 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:17 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:53 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:34 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:31 pm I have no evidence for the following opinions:

The SDN wolves are active.
The Syn wolves are slanking.

People I would not vote today:
Animal Midwife
Dennis
dyachei
falcon45ca
genny
Marmot
Mayo the Mayo
mightyrunner7
miranda920
Neon
potentialsheltervet
pyxxy (that's me!)
S~V~S
santygrass
Seanzie
Zenge

people I _would_ vote today:
Creature
Scotty
SportPonies

people that I wasn't sure where to put when making these lists:
DrWilgy
Kate
NateTheLesser
SARdoghandler (have u posted dawg? sorry I just wanted to make this pun)
Sloonei

I will answer any questions as best I can. By quietly letting you listen to the rumblings in my tummy. Lunch break
Scottie is slanking?
I would like to congratulate you on somehow missing the fact that I am 3p hunting to such a degree that 3ps will be extinct by the end of this game, according to the opinions given in this thread.

So I would respond with no, Scotty is not slanking. I assume you agree?

3ps delenda sunt (if I keep making this joke maybe zenpai will notice me )
I see why people are POEing you.
Dennis isn't helping with that but that's what qualifies him for my not voting list

Would you be open to voting today for any of Creature, Scotty, or Sporty? y/n + why?
Dennis isn't helping with what?

I would vote Creature because he's not doing enough.
Dennis isn't helping with people putting me in their sus pools.

I don't think he's thinking about it. Maybe he's wolfing and trying to pocket me (I've gotten solidly townread by him as a wolf in two straight games, revenge is always an option). I don't think so, though.

But he's engaging and commenting on my posts in ways that amplify my typical desire to have some fun in the thread, which imo gets me sussed (NAI), often by people unfamiliar with me.

Exhibits in spoiler:
Spoiler: show
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:45 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:41 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:38 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:37 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:36 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:33 pm That post from pyxxy that everyone is calling hedgy is kinda towny to me

He's told me of this urban myth that runs through his family where sometimes he just gets like a gut feeling that he hasn't done as scum, and it's been used against me to catch me before
Which post? I missed it. Can you link it? I'm a fail at reading Pyxxy, so my opinion can't help

So are you saying Pyxxy is a witch?
What's a witch?
I know what a witch is, I mean like is it a thing in mafia terms to be clear
No I meant like a "real" witch, someone who can *accurately* tell the future, or knows things they have no way of knowing, based on non scientific means.
Ah

Yes. He is a witch.

No, I think he just has a good gut feeling

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:33 pm That post from pyxxy that everyone is calling hedgy is kinda towny to me

He's told me of this urban myth that runs through his family where sometimes he just gets like a gut feeling that he hasn't done as scum, and it's been used against me to catch me before
(^this is just pocketing tho, I'll admit)

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:21 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:24 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:09 pm I like Seanzie’s vibe.

I haven’t mentioned half of these nor expanded on the ones I have. But here’s where I’m at on D1:

Townvibes:
Mightyena
Seanzor
Nateran♂
Creature
Falcorphish
Seeloonei
SportPonyta

Badvibes:
Pyxxytung
Pawmarmot
Bellosanty
Mirandreavus
Dedennis
how am I not pyxxyveltal
This is so true wtf scotty
Dennis and I get along well so like jokey joke posting @ with each other's content comes across as normal to me, slightly towny even.

And my point is that Dennis doesn't realize that doing so is, imo, probably getting me to stand out a bit more, especially to your lovely SDN folks, who as I mentioned will likely find my content (especially D1) some combination of lacking/sus.

-------------

Is your Creature opinion purely based on (lack of) activity or is there anything else there pinging you as off?

His lack of activity is a big deal. Not sure why I need another reason.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:26 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:17 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:53 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:34 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:31 pm I have no evidence for the following opinions:

The SDN wolves are active.
The Syn wolves are slanking.

People I would not vote today:
Animal Midwife
Dennis
dyachei
falcon45ca
genny
Marmot
Mayo the Mayo
mightyrunner7
miranda920
Neon
potentialsheltervet
pyxxy (that's me!)
S~V~S
santygrass
Seanzie
Zenge

people I _would_ vote today:
Creature
Scotty
SportPonies

people that I wasn't sure where to put when making these lists:
DrWilgy
Kate
NateTheLesser
SARdoghandler (have u posted dawg? sorry I just wanted to make this pun)
Sloonei

I will answer any questions as best I can. By quietly letting you listen to the rumblings in my tummy. Lunch break
Scottie is slanking?
I would like to congratulate you on somehow missing the fact that I am 3p hunting to such a degree that 3ps will be extinct by the end of this game, according to the opinions given in this thread.

So I would respond with no, Scotty is not slanking. I assume you agree?

3ps delenda sunt (if I keep making this joke maybe zenpai will notice me )
I see why people are POEing you.
Dennis isn't helping with that but that's what qualifies him for my not voting list

Would you be open to voting today for any of Creature, Scotty, or Sporty? y/n + why?

Dennis isn't helping with what?

I would vote Creature because he's not doing enough.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:53 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:34 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:31 pm I have no evidence for the following opinions:

The SDN wolves are active.
The Syn wolves are slanking.

People I would not vote today:
Animal Midwife
Dennis
dyachei
falcon45ca
genny
Marmot
Mayo the Mayo
mightyrunner7
miranda920
Neon
potentialsheltervet
pyxxy (that's me!)
S~V~S
santygrass
Seanzie
Zenge

people I _would_ vote today:
Creature
Scotty
SportPonies

people that I wasn't sure where to put when making these lists:
DrWilgy
Kate
NateTheLesser
SARdoghandler (have u posted dawg? sorry I just wanted to make this pun)
Sloonei

I will answer any questions as best I can. By quietly letting you listen to the rumblings in my tummy. Lunch break
Scottie is slanking?
I would like to congratulate you on somehow missing the fact that I am 3p hunting to such a degree that 3ps will be extinct by the end of this game, according to the opinions given in this thread.

So I would respond with no, Scotty is not slanking. I assume you agree?

3ps delenda sunt (if I keep making this joke maybe zenpai will notice me )

I see why people are POEing you.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 3:31 pm I have no evidence for the following opinions:

The SDN wolves are active.
The Syn wolves are slanking.

People I would not vote today:
Animal Midwife
Dennis
dyachei
falcon45ca
genny
Marmot
Mayo the Mayo
mightyrunner7
miranda920
Neon
potentialsheltervet
pyxxy (that's me!)
S~V~S
santygrass
Seanzie
Zenge

people I _would_ vote today:
Creature
Scotty
SportPonies

people that I wasn't sure where to put when making these lists:
DrWilgy
Kate
NateTheLesser
SARdoghandler (have u posted dawg? sorry I just wanted to make this pun)
Sloonei

I will answer any questions as best I can. By quietly letting you listen to the rumblings in my tummy. Lunch break

Scottie is slanking?

@Neon why do you like noble gases?

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:56 am Also, AM, do you have a Zenge read?

I do not.

SportPonies wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:55 am @santygrass I think it's interesting you're still sitting on Miranda. Have you expressed a reason for that?

@Animal Midwife do you remember, the game after 3H, was Santy a wolf again? I just remember him hardcore defending Miranda so I'm curious if that read was legit or not.

Yes.

Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:38 am
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:32 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:29 am
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:23 am I still don't think Miranda has done anything of note so I don't see why the pressure should dissipate. I liked how mighty handled me yesterday though.
I agree she hasn’t don’t anything of note, but that’s a two way street.
You think Sporty hasn't done anything?
I meant a two way street as in - If you’re saying Miranda should be yeeted because she hasn’t don’t anything noteworthy. Then it’s fair to say she shouldn’t be yeeted because she hasn’t done anything noteworthy, one way or the other.

We’re not in a state of the game where we should just be yeeting low hanging fruit for the lulz.

There are actual cases on people worth exploring and flipping those people.

If we flip Miranda, I’m telling you she’ll probably flip town, and then all the voters will say “well it was day one and it was a tone read”. There’s nothing of value in terms of information to be gained there beyond the 50/50 coin flip.

I’m saying we can do better than a 50/50 coin flip.

I don't subscribe to that. I'm more than happy to kill lowcontenters. LHF isn't AI, I say as a recovered LHF. I also never do it for the lulz. I'm not suggesting the entire playerlist needs to be on her, but I need to see some content that isn't just "scottie town for a memelist."

Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:29 am
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 11:23 am I still don't think Miranda has done anything of note so I don't see why the pressure should dissipate. I liked how mighty handled me yesterday though.
I agree she hasn’t don’t anything of note, but that’s a two way street.

You think Sporty hasn't done anything?

I still don't think Miranda has done anything of note so I don't see why the pressure should dissipate. I liked how mighty handled me yesterday though.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:54 am Quick question at large; have lots of you played together before? It seems that way; most of the SDN are new to me, but not to everyone at TS.

I hace very little syndicate familiarity but I'll admit that Neon feels familiar for some reason to me.

Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:39 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:38 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:34 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:29 pm I’d like you to answer these point by point. I doubt you will. I expect you’ll continue to obfuscate and give hand wavy answers.
I am indeed not going to answer. This is not a productive discussion. I'll engage with you on other subjects as they come up. But I have said everything I have to say about this particular subject.
@potentialsheltervet if Falcon flips scum, there’s no way this isn’t also scum, right? Like this has been too much Falcon defense to not be W/W, right?
@Animal Midwife would you agree with this?

I'm not sure if it's that straight forward. I'd need some insight to other Sloonei wolfing games.

Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:18 pm @Animal Midwife

With 24 players I’m assuming 5 scum or so?

You think that’s probably accurate?

At least 5. I don't know where 3p is factored in

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:39 pm AM is so towny it hurts

AM this is the kind of towny i need you to be on MU so people don't wonder wtf Im talking about when i call you a villager

I genuinely don't know what the difference is.

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:32 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:24 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:22 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:14 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions

The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie

Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?

Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
Could you remind me why Zenge is the only SDNer you're reading when you've only played one game with him where you were both village?
Zenge was the only SDNer who meaningfully contributed to this particular issue that I was analyzing, I'm still working on my catch-up
You didn't think anything I said was meaningful?
The only contribution you offered to the Falcon/Zenge drama was that you had no opinion on Falcon. Is that meaningful?

Oh wait. You just focusing on two people in isolation of the rest of the roster. No, that's not meaningful because it's too narrow. Lots of things have been discussed together even with just involving these four player outside of Zenge v Falcon. I'd like to hear about that as well since you're caught up.

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:22 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:14 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions

The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie

Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?

Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me
Could you remind me why Zenge is the only SDNer you're reading when you've only played one game with him where you were both village?
Zenge was the only SDNer who meaningfully contributed to this particular issue that I was analyzing, I'm still working on my catch-up

You didn't think anything I said was meaningful?

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:10 pm Hello everyone, finally caught up from Day 1 opening, so I'll be making a series of posts to give my thoughts/impressions

The biggest issue so far seems to be the conflict between Falcon/Zenge/Sloonie/Seanzie

Here are my reads of it:
Falcon - Scum lean
Zenge - Village lean
Sloonie - Village lean
Seanzie - Confused scum lean. Falcon was sus, but we cannot eliminate Falcon, so you vote for Zenge? Is your opinion toward Falcon based in past history (Falcon is a strong player, we should keep him around) or something else?

Generally, I find Zenge to have had the more convincing argument than Falcon (although this may admittedly be attributed to SDN bias), while Sloonie's commentary felt villagey to me

Could you remind me why Zenge is the only SDNer you're reading when you've only played one game with him where you were both village?

Zenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:29 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:27 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:16 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:11 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:48 pm [VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine
Why's that?
I got tired of the current wagon and wanted to move to someone else I felt was just standing around.
Being kinda quiet this game.
Oh have you played with Creature before?

Yes.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:16 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:11 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:48 pm [VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine
Why's that?
I got tired of the current wagon and wanted to move to someone else I felt was just standing around.

Being kinda quiet this game.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:48 pm [VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine

Why's that?

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:52 pm Alright catch up is done and I regret joining this game if I ever have to do that again

AM, Falcon, SVS, PSV, Zenge all get townreads for now

Marmot's slight scumread on me felt funny, but SVS's explanation sorta cleared that up? Like I know what they are trying to say but it kinda sucks that I'm getting scumread for having a personality D0

This Miranda wagon is nasssty and I don't know why. It feels like literally everyone has not actually said why

Why are you village reading me?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:21 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:20 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:19 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:17 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?

I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.
That's going to be a problem.
What's going to be a problem?

Playing this way in my presence.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:19 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:17 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:06 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:00 pm Is Miranda a relative noob to werewolf?

I think it is far easier and safer to call someone town when playing as mafia
Yes, she is a relative noob. This is her fifth (I believe?) game.
I'm more getting at, I would've expected her to be coached not to say something like that. I'm reading her as nooby rather than outright wolfy.
I think you should read her wolf game before making claims like this.
I will not be doing that. I already stated I'm not even going to be reading this entire game. All I'm saying is I think she sounds noobish rather than wolfy to me.

That's going to be a problem.

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