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Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:18 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:45 pm Its pretty clear that we absolutely lost control over the game.
Sig's recasting of the Alison situation encapsulates that perfectly.
It all just looks mindless. Is Lucy/Mac/SPF not enough for you guys?
But. I dont actually know anyone who has the mileage besides tutuu to persuade how many ever town that actually boring established towncores of stronger players are good.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there Chicken Little. Settle down.

We didn't have a N1 town death, so that's a plus. These kind of posts are inherently scummy, as they only serve to lower morale.
Perhaps Falcon actually believes things are going dandy.* At any rate, in the Falcon/DrWilgy pair, I'm currently of the mind to vote DrWilgy over Falcon.

*my immediate reaction to the Moon card being played was that wolves used it to chop Alison. I do think this is a reasonable kneejerk reaction and hence why I dont care for SPF's questioning of Creature's stated reasoning on roxy.
How does it play into SPF's questioning that you dont care for? Why couldnt it have been a town who used the card on alison???

I suddenly feel like you might not be town after all.
In all seriousness, I don't feel like responding with the usual "this is what i was trying to say, not what you said, what you were trying to point out is irrelevant, also why is this even of interest to you". Maybe SPF might explain.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:15 pm @lucy @MacDougall

i need ur help reading porscha today

I'm 90% sure neither of them have any advantage over you in reading Porscha. Porscha is generally understood as being obvious as town, correct? So if they're not being obvious, everyone else should naturally have the same doubts.

I'm of the opinion that that they might towntell under pressure if town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:15 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:45 pm Its pretty clear that we absolutely lost control over the game.
Sig's recasting of the Alison situation encapsulates that perfectly.
It all just looks mindless. Is Lucy/Mac/SPF not enough for you guys?
But. I dont actually know anyone who has the mileage besides tutuu to persuade how many ever town that actually boring established towncores of stronger players are good.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there Chicken Little. Settle down.

We didn't have a N1 town death, so that's a plus. These kind of posts are inherently scummy, as they only serve to lower morale.
Perhaps Falcon actually believes things are going dandy.* At any rate, in the Falcon/DrWilgy pair, I'm currently of the mind to vote DrWilgy over Falcon.

*my immediate reaction to the Moon card being played was that wolves used it to chop Alison. I do think this is a reasonable kneejerk reaction and hence why I dont care for SPF's questioning of Creature's stated reasoning on roxy.
Why are we a pair?

Pair of people dancing around ignored who arent the roxy/kate/fingersplints trio of prior egregiousness. The two of you are also unpartnered.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:11 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:45 pm Its pretty clear that we absolutely lost control over the game.
Sig's recasting of the Alison situation encapsulates that perfectly.
It all just looks mindless. Is Lucy/Mac/SPF not enough for you guys?
But. I dont actually know anyone who has the mileage besides tutuu to persuade how many ever town that actually boring established towncores of stronger players are good.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there Chicken Little. Settle down.

We didn't have a N1 town death, so that's a plus. These kind of posts are inherently scummy, as they only serve to lower morale.
Perhaps Falcon actually believes things are going dandy.* At any rate, in the Falcon/DrWilgy pair, I'm currently of the mind to vote DrWilgy over Falcon.

*my immediate reaction to the Moon card being played was that wolves used it to chop Alison. I do think this is a reasonable kneejerk reaction and hence why I dont care for SPF's questioning of Creature's stated reasoning on roxy.
There's a big difference between dandy, and OH MY GAWD IT'S A FIRE...SALE!

annnnnnnd, scene

My actual point is that wolves are probably gleeful right now and a wolf with this POV would need to do alot of twisting to respond in the manner you did so quickly.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:47 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:45 pm Its pretty clear that we absolutely lost control over the game.
Sig's recasting of the Alison situation encapsulates that perfectly.
It all just looks mindless. Is Lucy/Mac/SPF not enough for you guys?
But. I dont actually know anyone who has the mileage besides tutuu to persuade how many ever town that actually boring established towncores of stronger players are good.
Whoa, whoa, whoa there Chicken Little. Settle down.

We didn't have a N1 town death, so that's a plus. These kind of posts are inherently scummy, as they only serve to lower morale.

Perhaps Falcon actually believes things are going dandy.* At any rate, in the Falcon/DrWilgy pair, I'm currently of the mind to vote DrWilgy over Falcon.

*my immediate reaction to the Moon card being played was that wolves used it to chop Alison. I do think this is a reasonable kneejerk reaction and hence why I dont care for SPF's questioning of Creature's stated reasoning on roxy.

Moreover, in the absence of Lucy actually stating their positions (You promised a readslist a while ago and it never came), I am going to assume the veto of a Jack vote is a soft until otherwise disproven by mechanics which aint nobody got time to read, or otherwise clarified.

I believe that Mac is town strongly enough to believe that Seanzie's soft is useless.
I don't necessarily believe Jack is town because of this however.

Its pretty clear that we absolutely lost control over the game.
Sig's recasting of the Alison situation encapsulates that perfectly.
It all just looks mindless. Is Lucy/Mac/SPF not enough for you guys?
But. I dont actually know anyone who has the mileage besides tutuu to persuade how many ever town that actually boring established towncores of stronger players are good.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:34 pm Bereft, if you keep making awkward posts talking about yourself I’m going to rescind all the villa points I assigned you.

Too late then.

You'll get Bereft back tomorrow.

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:15 pm Aighhhghvhbbnnnmmmmhfrstfygghuuef

Sorry I lost my composure.

I caught up to D2. Mac claims they dont like the way I justified my fingersplints vote. That is all.

In hindisght I somehow managed to produce a more sus opener than my D1.

Aighhhghvhbbnnnmmmmhfrstfygghuuef

Sorry I lost my composure.

I caught up to D2. Mac claims they dont like the way I justified my fingersplints vote. That is all.

Jack and Creature are 2 slots that occupy sorta the same niche player archetype wise and threadwise.

With limited experience with either I'd vote Jack over Creature always. In particular I think SPF's meta concerns are too "narrow".

Aight my time is up.

Can't be on much for EoD. At some point, I cant look at tgis thread.

To reply to Falcon, naked voting on my home community is anyvote without justification, as we cannot vote silently.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:43 am
Why are you voting Kate? Why did you do a naked vote? Imma dive your ISO now, cuz' I'm curious how often you've brought her up before this

You were literally naked voting Kate at the time. The only thing in your iso mentioning kate before this was a whiles before saying "i only found kate sus after the reaction" and you've never repped kate as a sus even when asked by (seanzie?). So how, how, do you get to baudib naked voting kate being a cause of newfound concern for baudibs alignment.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:50 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:49 pm Alison, Creature, Rondo, Baudi, Wilgy

That's been the pretty consistent wagons thus far this RD. Baudi thinks these are spectacularly bad...despite SR Wilgy for sure, and certainly shading Rondo...that's 2/5 he should have no issue w/ flipping, yet he acts like we've got spectacularly bad wagons.

I don't see how a town thinks like this
Really, 2/4 wagons, cuz I'm sure he doesn't want his own flip.

Half the wagons are for players he's been shading or outright SR...I don't see that as a Town mindset at all

Like ...

... is this clarification.

How ... does baudib being themselves a wagon supposed to make the wagons mathematically look better from their perspective?

Id have a more creative way to express how utterly scandalized I feel about the egregiousness of this utter nonsense but in lieu you will just get dots.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:49 pm Alison, Creature, Rondo, Baudi, Wilgy

That's been the pretty consistent wagons thus far this RD. Baudi thinks these are spectacularly bad...despite SR Wilgy for sure, and certainly shading Rondo...that's 2/5 he should have no issue w/ flipping, yet he acts like we've got spectacularly bad wagons.

I don't see how a town thinks like this

This is just so disingenuous.

I suddenly understand Mac's Alison/Jack w/w tinfoil.

Hey benneh.

Im bored.

So.

Dr.Wilgy,

You haven't appeared to notice that I've voted you and I've been your only voter for as long as I've been paying attebtion, if lucy was on you, they must've been there only briefly. Secondly, what's up your Seanzie vote? You've never bothered to develop that one, your opinion just went poof into thin air.

There are plenty of LHF that have gotten zero traction, and would request we starting voting LHF.

I read "Alison comes off as looking worse" as fingersplints thought that Alison was more likely to be mafia if there was a mafia within the pair?
Which is a fairly nuanced phrasing overall I'll give you that, but that's how I personally use the turn of phrase. That's not someone who's decided alison as a wolf.

There's a mistake with my previous post, but I think you can figure out what I meant to say.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:32 pm i thought that the reaction from fingersplints was towny because she immediately flipped her positioning on roxy/alison in a confident/non-chalant way

whereas if she was a wolf making psots dissing alison with the intention to get her killed, i think she might find it hard to capitulate to the idea that alison/roxy are both town as easily as she did

idk if that makes sense to anyone but me but it felt towny to me in the moment

I do not see the flip. In the post you called out, fingersplints is either a wolf with TMI treating alison as if they know they're town and shading, or they're a town whoalready formed the conclusion that in all likelihood they were v/v and made the classical mistake of giving an advice post even though it would look bad to others.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:06 pm im quoting this post again for the new page bcuz i refuse to be silenced

I read fingersplints reaction without context and immediately gut wolfread it and don't think that putting it in context it makes them townier for it.

Don't have reason to be particularly critical with respect to your post.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it

The correct reason is that you do not have a good idea of what makes a look person scummy.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm Next question: should we let lucy determine the elim as the IC

I think we should settle it now before she gives reads so mafia can't support/oppose the idea based on her reads

No.

I will take this opportunity to state in advance in response to whoever it was that thought card usage discussion is useful, that I will take full advantage of "antitown" cards. They're not "antitown" if used correctly. Wish I remembered who I'm responding to.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:34 pm Hi Bereft how you doing?

Alright.

I suupose I should reveal that I think SPF is town and my thoughts started reversing course midway through "casing" SPF as Alison wants to put it.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:06 am
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:01 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:11 am i think the person with the wolfiest entrance so far is actually lucy
?
I think this is the natural reaction to have. I can't particularly explain why they sound unnatural but I flatly do not believe it is difficult at all for certain wolves types to post as sig did in response, and I feel that lucy has been giving off town vibes that the natural reaction should not be "lucy is the wolfiest player", and especially not since your explanation of why this is so clearly relies on a meta read.
do you think that perhaps it's possible that i would read and perceive lucy in a different way from you based on my previous experiences with her?

Its possible. I would want to know why you asked but I feel like your answer would be along the lines of "Im trying to probe you" and thats not interesting with respect to my view of you.

I also dont think the beginning of the game was boring or that porscha v was the only read to be had.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:01 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:11 am i think the person with the wolfiest entrance so far is actually lucy
?

I think this is the natural reaction to have. I can't particularly explain why they sound unnatural but I flatly do not believe it is difficult at all for certain wolves types to post as sig did in response, and I feel that lucy has been giving off town vibes that the natural reaction should not be "lucy is the wolfiest player", and especially not since your explanation of why this is so clearly relies on a meta read.

Neither of the 2 justifications read as natural at all.

I dont think SPF is repping a "standard sensible town POV".

Thanks.

Thought my opener wouldve been ridiculed for [Insert Here]. Don't @ me for this post.

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