The Syndicate

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:15 am Yay wolves you deserve it. After I died I was sorry to have left a @Dennis suspicion.
Thanks daisy for the great time. Whisk shout out to the MoDs

Most of the suspicion on me stemmed from you, I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for you (at least for another day or so) it was a good catch

This was a very interesting first baddie game for me so thanks for making it funky I guess

Zealot - Porscha
Goon - Kate/Sabi
Goon - Dennis
Goon - Creature
Goon - staypositivefriend

There, much better

AAAHHH I JUST COPIED IT FROM THE PINNED MESSAGE I DIDN'T THINK SORRY

@Spacedaisy Thank you very much for the awesome game setup, I wish it didn't have to end like this but it is what it is

@Quin and @Marmot, thank you both for modding this game! And happy birthday Quin

Zealot - Porscha
Goon - Kate
Goon - Dennis
Goon - Creature
Goon - staypositivefriend

Oh that's two

So is daisy gonna reveal the baddies or should I

I guess that kinda tells you one doesnt it

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:28 pm Anyway last post of dayphase. I said what I had to say. I'm voting for the outted wolf while yall chase your pride reads.
Ignoring that you can't be off wagon at lylo and still win as town...

Creature survived for one of two reasons.

1) Creature is the zealot -> yeeting him again loses the game for the town -> you shouldn't want to yeet Creature again

2) Creature isn't the zealot and he was protected by the judgement card yesterday -> Mac or SPF is confirmed wolf -> Mac and SPF are not thunderdoming and are holding onto mutual townreads in spite of each having the equivalent of a red check on each other -> both are wolves -> you shouldn't have a strong desire to yeet Creature over SPF/Mac

There's no logical reason for town Sabi to do this. Sabi is flat outted. Sabi has done things like this a lot this game, where she has a strong opinion about where she should vote based on reasoning that doesn't make sense. She has also spent a lot of time "sheeping" Mac, who is confirmed wolf.

@Dennis @sig @Porscha @DrWilgy

Please be respectful of people's pronouns

Not making it big to shame you but I want everyone to see the message

For the most part, I agree. I still am not the most comfortable with saying Mac is confirm mafia, because mechanically we are only sure there is one between the two of them and to be perfectly honest I townread (past tense) both of them before Lucy came in. But yeah Sabi is making me raised_eyebrow.jpg a lot atm

If jack flips town how does this affect your view on Sabi? Also why are you choosing us 4 to ping with a lot of your posts?

I think the way lucy has replied confirmed, to me, that the 3rd person in the grouping she checked last night was in fact Seanzie

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:40 am no im not that busy ill spare

@Porscha @sig @Dennis if youre town how can you townread mac who literally gave up at points and started doing some spew stuff preparing for his death. and also gave up pretending to be town at points

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:25 am I think it's probably a good thought exercise to consider whether mafia spf and mafia mac would actually interact with each other in this way. Where has been my effort to put distance between us? I've played nothing like my wolf game with her.

I'd be more likely mafia with Tutuu if I was.
second sentence is clearly trying to get town paranoid if im maf with him, he expected to die

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:55 am Tutuu had wishy washy nonsense reads on Jack and Wilgy early. She townread Dennis for nothing then out of nowhere started tunneling him (cuz he's Zealot).
blatant openwolfing / setting up spew on dennis

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 am Btw Dennis is the zealot imo.
setting up spew

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:51 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:34 am Okay Lucy I'm using my one time pass here. I only get one of these trust claims ever. We've discussed this. You know what I'm talking about. I'm breaking the glass.
did you expect this to work?
Well I wouldn't do something that goofy as mafia like ever.
openwolfing, resigning that he was the chop so might as well say something funny

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:34 am Okay Lucy I'm using my one time pass here. I only get one of these trust claims ever. We've discussed this. You know what I'm talking about. I'm breaking the glass.
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:19 am I might be being super dumb about Creature but something about his posts just pocket me. And he really doesn't seem like he can be with Tutuu. Tutuu also seems to have a lot of sanctimony when arguing with SPF about her and Creature being compatible.

I think Tutuu probably was just being an active pockety wolf with the Creature save attempts and thought sig would go over easily but then sig got super super townie and then I decided to try to bait mafia to vote sig and made myself look scummy cuz Creature didn't die because he had the judgement card.
its just funny / trolling. please read the sentence carefully and imagine someone saying it in a serious tone.

sig, porscha, dennis, the one among u who is town - what are you doing?

why aren't you following the confirmed town power role who can obtain mech info about wolf?

@Sabiplz ill include u too just for good measure

im at a loss as to how u guys are ignoring lucy's wolf peeks, ignoring mac and spf wolfy outrage at being called mafia and just voting me (except sabi)

dennis and sig have been tunneling me. ok

@Porscha according to lucy there's literally a mechanically confirmed mafia between mac and spf. not both of them, but one. and u choose to vote for option C - me.

u bow down before mac so much that u trust him over lucy - sure. but that means spf is confirmed mafia ...

if u think im the mafia in me/spf and she's town, then mac is confirmed mafia

we have. a. confirmed. town. role. that. can. find. mafia. by. mech.

she. found. mafia.

vote. for. the. discovered. mafia.

???

I wasn't trying to ignore Lucy's peeks, I was trying to understand how it was mechanically possible

From the description of the role I did not understand how Lucy managed to confirm that one of the people in her group was confirmed not to have pulled the judgement card but I think maybe she pulled seanzie as a 3rd and he got nk'd so I'll just assume that

I haven't been tunneling you. I have been trolling you because you refused to work with me up until this point. Honestly that's why I've been trolling mostly everyone it's because no one interacted with me but instead watched me and said "oh yeah that's mafia okay next". It got frustrating. Sorry.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:44 am let me just repeat

@Porscha @Porscha @Porscha

according to lucy there's literally a mechanically confirmed mafia between mac and spf. not both of them, but one. and u choose to vote for option C - me.

literally what?

pinging you all too

@sig @Sabiplz @Dennis

Okay so

I am going to put my comprehension to the side for a while

I will [VOTE: Mac] aubergine.

If he flips wolf, don't question lucy again, spf and tutuu are town

If he flips town, bomb spf, then tutuu

I appreciate you being serious with me for a minute. You said you were trolling your scumreads because you scumread them. Is this not just an inherently bad way to play? When you don't take us seriously you can't change your read and it's just plugging your ears and refusing to acknowledge more content that should be read. You playing like this after I point it out is scum indicative to me. And I'm not saying you can't be silly too, it's when the silly/serious ratio is 100/0 is when it's a problem.

I think this just about sums up where I am after catch up, porscha trying to get us off wagons was pretty weird though

Hoooo man thread is getting toxic again I'm outta here

Please please please x 749.2 be kind to each other okay bye bye!!!

Sabi please let up a bit on lucy

Wait did you take that post serious

I was kidding when I said that 'i think mac just outed them w/w' because Mac had just said something like 'yeah spf is my baddie partner'

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:01 am
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:54 pm Guys I think mac just outed him being partnered with spf
Clearly w/w/w

Yeah I'm in their baddie chat and Mac said 'watch this im gonna out me and SPF as partners' and then I made sure everyone knew

If you couldn't tell I'm genuinely over trying to work with you until you show some sort of compliance

Okay as much as I appreciate comic relief Creature coming in despite being bad I think I'm gonna evacuate this thread and come back and look at the ruins of whatever massive argument will come from Sabi v Lucy cuz I'm not particularly interested in seeing this happen on a Friday night

See you later nerds

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:48 pm Tienies who refuse to follow a setup confirmed player with a red prek deserve to lose and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills watching SPF, Sabi and Bereft twist themselves into knots to say a red peek isn’t a red peek.

Weren't you upset with me too? I don't mean to be annoying, genuinely, I just wanna know why you said I was acting wolfy and then yelled at everyone but me?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.

??? Is this not something to at least talk about? Especially you saying yourself the oracle "made shit up"??

But I've just about exhausted my thoughts on it anyways so I will concede

I don't know how anyone can trust lucy after all of this jeepers man

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:01 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:59 pm JAck why are your posts always so off
What are you talking about? I’m town leader and lead the first wolf yeet yesterday.

Lucy is basically claiming red peeks on Mac AND SPF and Tuutu’s play yesterday was wolfy af.

I’m not pulling this stuff out of my butt.

Are you town leader? I didn't think you had all that much thread influence to be quite honest

You know what no I'm done following what other people say this game because look where that got us

Mac/spf = t/t

I don't like how 'they would've domed each other by now' is our reason for pairing people as w/w but I guess I haven't played with them so I can't reeeally say no but I still don't like it one bit

Also someone else tell me the difference between doming and thunderdoming

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:23 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:12 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:11 pm Was there mechanically a way fro creature not to be yeeted and not being the Zealot?
yes, there's this card called judgement
I see. This would do as well.

So Creature was either Absolved or is Zealot.

Seanzie flipping T seems to indicate that they were likely knowing to the Creature != Zealot then.

How would seanzie know that though

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:10 pm [VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

intent to thunderdome today

What's thunderdoming

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm Mac, I know you’re excited to get to the “guess the zealot” portion of the game but come on.
lol so is mac the zealot? w/w with seanzie?

and like u all decided to collectively openwolf coz u have a lock win? how do u have a lock win lmao

wait is sig town....

SHUT THE FUCK UP MAFIA OH MY GOD YOU ARE THE MOST OBVIOUS BADDIE IN THE WORLD AT THIS POINT

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:54 pm Guys I think mac just outed him being partnered with spf
Are you all trolling?

Yeah have fun getting elimmed or whatever

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:54 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:52 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm What are wolves doinv
Your mom, how about you
@Kate

NO SHUT UP WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT SHES GONNA GET MAD AT ME

Guys I think mac just outed him being partnered with spf

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm What are wolves doinv

Your mom, how about you

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:41 pm If the Dennis wagon is a joke, I’ll just keep preparing potatoes for the fam but if it’s for real, could somebody let me know so I can scream until I lose my voice while fixing potatoes because Tutuu just threw half assed cases at each townie in a row until one somebody convinced ppl Dennis is more wolfy than Creature?

WHERE WERE YOU THE ENTIRE DAY HELLO? TUTUU HAS BEEN DOING THIS SINCE FOREVER

ME you're wrong on me how is this not obvious

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:24 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:23 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:20 pm Dennis is literally just trolling around LMAO. I am being told that actually this is Dennis' first wolfgame and hes just a natural at it.

Why is this game like this.
No shut up and answer me

Why are you calling Sabi Kate still?
It was a simple mistake.
I had been consciously trying to correct my usage earlier but it appears that I now think Kate is another name for Sabi.

OKay thank you

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:22 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:20 pm Dennis is literally just trolling around LMAO. I am being told that actually this is Dennis' first wolfgame and hes just a natural at it.

Why is this game like this.
yeah he's a wolf, and his first wolf rand

Ok sick cool thanks

Where did you get this read? Because I swear on GOD if it is because of my readlists you said 'uh' to from DAY THREE I am leaving for the rest of today

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:20 pm Dennis is literally just trolling around LMAO. I am being told that actually this is Dennis' first wolfgame and hes just a natural at it.

Why is this game like this.

No shut up and answer me

Why are you calling Sabi Kate still?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:20 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:18 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:15 pm i guess creature dying. ill stay on the dennis wagon with him.

kinda romantic when u think about it. me and creature. us against the world. dying together on the sinking boat.
I hope you both die before you get to have your romantic kiss or whatever
I am unlynchable, unkillable, immune to poison, dayvig, arson and even unmodkillable.

i have traveled through every Plane in the multiverse ever since my spark ignited and every single one resulted in my overwhelming victory and your crushing defeat.

source

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:15 pm i guess creature dying. ill stay on the dennis wagon with him.

kinda romantic when u think about it. me and creature. us against the world. dying together on the sinking boat.

I hope you both die before you get to have your romantic kiss or whatever

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:15 pm I don't know I love the Porscha/Kate thing going on right now. Feels way purer. I'd be hesitant to add tutuu to it that quickly, but this corner of the game feels alright, the other side does not. Seanzie feels cool too.

NO IM STOPPING YOU RIGHT IN YOUR GOD DAMN TRACKS RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW.

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING SABI KATE?? SABI IS THE PLAYER, KATE SUBBED OUT.

This is actualyl driving me crazy what is this dehumanization tactic

Yeah but when you refuse to interact with your scumreads then if you're wrong and you're town you look mafia as hell AND you look like a total GOOFBALL

Hence my 400 attempts to talk to you, to be shut down my "i dont talk to terrorists sorry!"

Why did everyone stop talking

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:44 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:43 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:42 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:35 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:33 pm "Also I asked YOU in wolf chat to write me that post idk why you're trying to bring our other teammate spf into this" wtf
What? Tutuu lied and I'm currently trying to bus her so obviously I'm gonna point it out
[VOTE: dennis] aubergine

let's kill dennis
Ok fine whatever I'll take the game seriously
yeah coz obviously a town player would chill and not care earlier - coz things have been going so smooth for town - why even be pressured to take it serously! lalalalal everything happy! go lucky!
Have you even read your own posts
Your shade slides off my smooth brain and flies off! TOo bad for you!

This is what I meant by no meaningful interaction because this

yeah coz obviously a town player would chill and not care earlier - coz things have been going so smooth for town - why even be pressured to take it serously! lalalalal everything happy! go lucky!

and this

Your shade slides off my smooth brain and flies off! TOo bad for you!

just don't come from a town player who's being serious, esp not in thE SAME QUOTE THREAD THINGAMABOBBER?

BAM generic anime character pfp GO

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:42 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:35 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:33 pm "Also I asked YOU in wolf chat to write me that post idk why you're trying to bring our other teammate spf into this" wtf
What? Tutuu lied and I'm currently trying to bus her so obviously I'm gonna point it out
[VOTE: dennis] aubergine

let's kill dennis
Ok fine whatever I'll take the game seriously
yeah coz obviously a town player would chill and not care earlier - coz things have been going so smooth for town - why even be pressured to take it serously! lalalalal everything happy! go lucky!

Have you even read your own posts

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:41 pm [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

i hope thats okay that im voting here

No because it hurt my feelings

Look at my pfp, you wouldnt wanna kiww this wittwe puppy wouwd you????

Hold on actually I'm gonna change my avatar just in case people are seriously changing their reads based on that

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:35 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:33 pm "Also I asked YOU in wolf chat to write me that post idk why you're trying to bring our other teammate spf into this" wtf
What? Tutuu lied and I'm currently trying to bus her so obviously I'm gonna point it out
[VOTE: dennis] aubergine

let's kill dennis

Ok fine whatever I'll take the game seriously

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:33 pm "Also I asked YOU in wolf chat to write me that post idk why you're trying to bring our other teammate spf into this" wtf

What? Tutuu lied and I'm currently trying to bus her so obviously I'm gonna point it out

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:04 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:37 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:50 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:42 pm I don't think I care enough to catch up like 300 posts right now so hello thread

Okay looking at this page it's a bunch of wagon analysis which goes right over my head but I can try

So what is it that you're using to determine whether there are wolves on wagon or not?
If wagon analysis goes over your head typically, what's your preferred method to hunt wolves?
I wanna make a towncore, and then work around my PoE, my reads, and my towncore's reads to determine the most likely wolf. So like this:

Wilgy
Mac
Seanzie
Falcon
Sabi

Are the people I generally am choosing to trust. But, my vote is on tutuu because I personally have read her as scum. It's an experimental method for now but I have generally been right with picking town, and wrong with picking wolves out of PoE in my short career. It gives the people in towncore a sense of comraderie (or at least it does to me) and I think morale and teamwork are both important to solving a game

My towncore is small currently because I am being stingy with letting people in after I relooked at everyone after Roxy flipped
this is a nothingburger fluff post. its just saind 1000 theory words with no actual substance. its like he's writing an essay on a subject he doesnt know and he's trying to prolong the words to match the minimum word requirement

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:44 am Tutuu has, from my perspective:

- OMGUS voted me after I said just one thing about her potentially being bad

- Flipped on multiple of her townreads to make a team based around me being mafia, without my confirmed flip

- Refused to interact with me in any meaningful way after voting me

Seriously, how do I go from being so "pure" to being the worst scum of the earth in one post? And I am aware that tutuu has reached post limit and can't really react to this (which could've been an easy way out of talking but that's a whole other can of worms) but I still want to explain how things are from my point of view
same as this

its like he literally asked spf in wolf caht to write a post for him

"- Refused to interact with me in any meaningful way after voting me" sounds like a robot man its just not him

Okay im actually here now

did you read the posts or just say that to try and get people on me

1. Falcon asked me a question and I answered idk what else you want. Next time I'll be less specific

2. YOU WERE TROLLING ME THE WHOLE TIME WTF DO YOU MEAN I SOUND LIKE A ROBOT??? You don't know me, you don't get to say it just 'isn't me'. I would take that from anyone who played with me before. But like ???? I summarized why I was voting you so people could react, which no one did because I don't think anyone is reading anyone other than their scumreads's posts at this point

Also I asked YOU in wolf chat to write me that post idk why you're trying to bring our other teammate spf into this

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