The Syndicate

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 4:03 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:47 pm Dude the wolf is just gonna be something annoying like sig literally watch this happen

sig has not left my radar

I did almost push us to vote sleep today

scummy af but I was just like, maybe we learn more from who the last scum decides to kill, since there's no consensus towncore atm (imo? or am I wrong? tell me who you think is towncore rn :3)

Howdy pyxxy WAIT I DIDNT RESOOND TO YOUR CASE I'll do that in a minute

I think people I'd not vote today are:
Spf
Ted
Neon
Lemon

Is what I think :3

Well actually that would put me as top wagon which I don't exactly want to do

Hey @staypositivefriend Wanna jump psv with me

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:59 pm [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

hmmmm

Hmmmmm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:54 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:42 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 2:35 pm i’ll be honest, i don’t know how good i feel with a six lunch

don’t really like how people came to voting him and i’m nowhere near as confident as i was on falcon

will prob feel bad too if i mislunch him his first time when he voted a wolf but uhh

Me too, but I don't particularly feel like dying at the moment

If another wagon showed up I'd be happy to consider it

well kate was on the SPF trail which is why I remained also. So my question is wouldn't it be better to vote based on kate's suspicion of SPF and save yourself with less risk of a mistaken lynch on me?

I have my own reads, I'm not just following Kate reads because she was right the first two times

I have been townreading SPF for more or less the entire game, and I don't think Kate's case was super compelling because I think she misunderstood what spf was saying. So while you are following consensus and that's whatever, I don't think it's really alignment indicative cause you're new, I have my own reasons to disagree

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:50 pm @Dennis - if u had full control over the elimination rn, who would you kill?

Probably psv still

Dude the wolf is just gonna be something annoying like sig literally watch this happen

SixStrings wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:12 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 2:24 pm Well, self pres is the main reason but I also don't mind if he goes over

Nice one son, hard to view either of these in a positive light. Moreover, it is clear that neither of your reasons provide support as to why I am more wolfy than others.

In my defense, I correctly voted to kill falcon and have been pretty resolute on SPF so far.

I've explained my thoughts on you in other posts

Are you trying to say voting you for self preservation is scummy? Because think about it, if I'm town, I know that and I don't know your alignment, therefore it's always better to kill someone else. If I'm wolf, obviously I don't want to die. My vote on you should really be read as NAI

I guess there is a bit of time left but these wagons are so stagnant, no one wants to move off so I feel stuck in this vote

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 2:35 pm i’ll be honest, i don’t know how good i feel with a six lunch

don’t really like how people came to voting him and i’m nowhere near as confident as i was on falcon

will prob feel bad too if i mislunch him his first time when he voted a wolf but uhh

Me too, but I don't particularly feel like dying at the moment

If another wagon showed up I'd be happy to consider it

Okay phone om 4 percent EEK!!

Okay thank you for answering me @pyxxy

Spf wallposting is good

If anyone needs me to look at anything specific, I'll be back soonish, please ping me with what ya want AAAH 3 PERCENT

Well, self pres is the main reason but I also don't mind if he goes over

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 8:30 pm What's unfortunate is I work from 7 a.m. to about 4 p.m. tomorrow.
@Dennis Why are you voting me?

All the reasons stated before but also all of your reactions to being voted have felt bad to me. It's almost felt like you're trying to just shut down pushes against you rather than analyze or break them apart

Either way, looks like I might die and I'd rather not do that so [VOTE: six] aubergine for self pres

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:22 pm yeah idk
I don't really see why Dennis would vote 2 scumbuddies back to back

ig they were the last to vote both times but idk if they're aware that doing so makes them look worse than just not voting there

I'm very aware it makes me look bad, especially the seanzie vote

I didn't realize eod was in 3 minutes when I voted seanzie so it's up to you to believe that or not

I don't remember any extenuating circumstances when I voted falcon

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:41 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:38 pm

SixStrings wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 5:25 pm Can i ask why we arent just following Kate since she was right both days? ...and then they killed her to boot.

honestly think this might be the way to go
sometimes you just have to sheep

unless someone gives a really compelling case on someone else

but like

Kate already got falcon killed

she always dies for that anyway, so I don't see how we can make the logical leap that she also died because she's right about SPF

or at least I would prefer if people did their own research on SPF

What did your research on spf conclude

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 4:08 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:40 pm Okay so I'm top wagon which is CRINGE but I'm still struggling to see why I'm being voted, unless it is purely my votes being bad and looking bus-like(which admittedly they are)

If someone could put that into like one post or something, that would be great

Currently I'd be down to chop like, psv/pyxxy/six is kind of my remaining poe

mind going through each with a quick why?

What if you answered my question first

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:40 pm Okay so I'm top wagon which is CRINGE but I'm still struggling to see why I'm being voted, unless it is purely my votes being bad and looking bus-like(which admittedly they are)

If someone could put that into like one post or something, that would be great

Currently I'd be down to chop like, psv/pyxxy/six is kind of my remaining poe

mfw someone's gonna call this a slip when I mean I can understand the perspective

Okay so I'm top wagon which is CRINGE but I'm still struggling to see why I'm being voted, unless it is purely my votes being bad and looking bus-like(which admittedly they are)

If someone could put that into like one post or something, that would be great

Currently I'd be down to chop like, psv/pyxxy/six is kind of my remaining poe

sig wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 10:48 am @Dennis Did you kill your mom again?

No she'd beat me

Maybe I'd be better for my headspace or whatever you youngins call it to just elim six but it's like what like 4 people have said about me: it's POSSIBLE, it COULD be right, but it doesn't FEEL right

Why are there so many parenthesis in my pasts two posts wtf

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 6:38 pm whatcha thinking of pops, dennis?

Oh sorry I just saw this I was catching up

Umm. I have no clue how to read him at this point.

I didn't like how agreeable his reads were, I didn't like the manner where he pops in (pun intended 2 IN 1 GAME IM ON FIRE) with unexplained reads, I didn't like much of anything, and yet I'm still stuck in this paranoid "but what if he's just a lost and confused noobie" world

Okay well that was certainly A catch up (tm)

I don't think spf is bad, I think Kate got conf biased (sorry mom love ya dont get mad at me )

The whole strategy they got into a fight about was based on (I think) the idea that spf get mislynched the next day, so she's in the poe which I guess can be confusing

It'd be better (imo) to just give 3 names as a legacy rather than 4 while including yourself, but that's neither here nor there

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 1:36 pm fwiw dennis did rand wolf a few months ago in this game: viewtopic.php?t=2458. i was a wolf with him

the differences in meta between this game vs that game is one of the stronger arguments i have for him being town right now

I've randed wolf twice more, if you'd like to look at more recent games

I'm on phone so I'm not getting the link but it's the two most recent rackets

dude what

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:22 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:09 pm I'm voting monopoly because whenever I play chess I get competitive

But when you play monopoly you get mad and sit underneath the table.

ok that was ONCE

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:15 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 5:45 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 12:43 pm @sig you've got one job and one job only

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:58 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:50 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:39 pm Wow dead thread is dead

I’d like @pyxxy to explain their reads

And until then I’m comfortable on Dennis.

I think he’s trying to create reasons to mafia read someone hence the Neon read.

This read is especially illogical since we all just finished a post cap game where Neon was civ and did the same excat thing so it makes zero sense for why it would be suspicious now.

I think he’s also having difficulty maneuvering around Wilgy since he has TMI

I'm not gonna argue with this but I will post the question, do you really think I would try the same thing 2 games in a row, knowing my previous mafia partners are in this game

Classic wifom I think

I don’t think you’re skilled enough at mafia yet to think about it ahead of time nor do I think you’ve got the ability to shift your meta that much yet game to game.

So yea I do think a mafia Dennis would use that as a reason to throw out a ping

(ed note: This quote is from a different previous game of Mafia, it is NOT from this current game)

^Does your reasoning for scumreading Dennis in Tongue-Tied mafia carry over to this Dennis quote below?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 2:23 am I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

How does his suspicion in that game carry over to this one

I was asking for a comparison (which sig provided)

It was more like

You know how your teachers reuse the same rubric for the same project across multiple years?

I was just asking sig if he felt like a method for how he caught you once before would apply again here

What method then

Like the one where I'm new and don't think ahead? Cause 1. That was used for distancing (first game I used to have a susp on neon, that game me and neon were bad so I thought it would make nice distancing and it did) and 2. What exactly would he be using this rubric/method/whatever for in THIS game, exactly

I'm voting monopoly because whenever I play chess I get competitive

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:04 pm

Spoiler: show

light mode warning

light mode

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:02 pm had to check OP to see what sand everywhere was

me too

That's so funny help

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:23 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:22 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:14 pm Why have the 3 people most adamant about scumreading me not given a concrete reason to scumread me

It is my humble opinion "posting style" is not an amazing reason to scumread someone and that's just about what's been said thus far

Do you think i'm talking like I normally do when I'm bad? Do you think I'm secretly brainwashing you through magic in the words, and the more you read the more you fall under my spell?? Please specify a little

Are you talking to yourself, son?

getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyheadgetoutofmyhead

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:14 pm Why have the 3 people most adamant about scumreading me not given a concrete reason to scumread me

It is my humble opinion "posting style" is not an amazing reason to scumread someone and that's just about what's been said thus far

Do you think i'm talking like I normally do when I'm bad? Do you think I'm secretly brainwashing you through magic in the words, and the more you read the more you fall under my spell?? Please specify a little

Why have the 3 people most adamant about scumreading me not given a concrete reason to scumread me

sig wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 1:45 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 12:43 pm @sig you've got one job and one job only

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:58 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:50 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:39 pm Wow dead thread is dead

I’d like @pyxxy to explain their reads

And until then I’m comfortable on Dennis.

I think he’s trying to create reasons to mafia read someone hence the Neon read.

This read is especially illogical since we all just finished a post cap game where Neon was civ and did the same excat thing so it makes zero sense for why it would be suspicious now.

I think he’s also having difficulty maneuvering around Wilgy since he has TMI

I'm not gonna argue with this but I will post the question, do you really think I would try the same thing 2 games in a row, knowing my previous mafia partners are in this game

Classic wifom I think

I don’t think you’re skilled enough at mafia yet to think about it ahead of time nor do I think you’ve got the ability to shift your meta that much yet game to game.

So yea I do think a mafia Dennis would use that as a reason to throw out a ping

(ed note: This quote is from a different previous game of Mafia, it is NOT from this current game)

^Does your reasoning for scumreading Dennis in Tongue-Tied mafia carry over to this Dennis quote below?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 2:23 am I'm not terribly opposed to a pyxxy vote

I think that post with the "hey pls leave a legacy" is kind of pockety and trying to be like "heeeey pal so tr me before u die k thanks bye bye"

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Yes

What is the logic being carried over?? Pyxxy didn't answer me before either

Lol sig make a post that doesn't mention me challenge (impossible difficulty)

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:54 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 1:54 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 11:55 pm I'm fine with chopping Tedxtr, the day is long yet and much time will pass, if day ended here though I would stay on Dennis

why?

Dennis is my current scumread. I don't feel strongly that Ted is town.

Remind me why

this probably comes off sarcastic I genuinely couldn't find it in iso

Neon wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:09 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:53 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:52 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:50 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:32 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:44 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:42 pm

I don't have any

Why are you playing like this? There are so many more fun versions of neon!

You've mentioned Neon's play being out of character several times this game.





Why are you TR her?

Because she's not playing like wolf neon. Plus you pretty much cleared her for me with your "town sheeping."

Wait, you're piggy-backing MY TR on Neon, and trying to use it to discredit me?





Yeah, this is powerwolfing

No, she means she thinks you're bad and pocketing Neon, which clears neon

Why are you lawyering?

I share the same view

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:07 am if falcon is town, I'm going back to my pet world of Kate/PSV
if falcon is scum, Kate is locktown and I'd maybe look at... idk Neon?

but I don't really think Neon/falcon is w/w from how Neon reacted to falcon's townread on her
maybe I need to look at that again

other than that, idk who else can be teamed with falcon
sig?
probably not PSV

I don't think Kate is bad in any worlds at this point

Even if Falcon flips town Kate's thunderdoming (is that the word) and constant insistence that she's town even though literally no one scumreads her is a towntell

Probably. Idk why I've put myself in this position of translator but I'll stop now

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:52 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:50 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:32 am

Kate wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:44 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:42 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:41 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:36 pm

Nope

What are your thoughts on that slot? Especially since he was pushing me quite a bit.

I don't have any

Why are you playing like this? There are so many more fun versions of neon!

You've mentioned Neon's play being out of character several times this game.





Why are you TR her?

Because she's not playing like wolf neon. Plus you pretty much cleared her for me with your "town sheeping."

Wait, you're piggy-backing MY TR on Neon, and trying to use it to discredit me?





Yeah, this is powerwolfing

No, she means she thinks you're bad and pocketing Neon, which clears neon

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:48 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:46 am There is no reason to clear Six based off anyone's flip

Why, did you tell him to bus you in chat? Bc that's the only way you could know that.

And why are you pushing a low posting newbie on day 2? Lhf?

Well I mean, I don't see that as pushing as much as not easily giving townreads. Like with my seanzie vote, that's obviously not clearing. Maybe you don't outright scumread me for it (which you may I'm not one to judge) but you certainly don't think it's clearing

And at this point, I would think he knows to explain himself a bit more. He hasn't actually said anything other than "I think Ted is bad" when the thread was on ted as a top wagon, and "I'm sheeping Kate and psv" when the thread is townreading them

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:46 am There is no reason to clear Six based off anyone's flip

I would agree

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:44 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:41 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:39 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:37 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:36 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:34 am Right now I think the falcon wagon is clean. This flip would do a lot yo resolve six, Dennis, and ted. I really think this is the best choice for today.

What? How on Earth would my flip resolve Six or Dennis?





This is blatant powerwolfing



[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Lol. I love ye falcon bit when ever have you seen me power wolf?? Anyone??

Oh yes, when you led my ML in... I can't remember the game's name, but it was shortly before Xmas.





Just add a few more ?? marks for more incredulous disbelief tho, mi'right?

When did I ever lead your mislynch?

Felt or Lawyers, I can't fully recall.





It happened tho.

You didn't get killed in lawyers, I remember sheeping golden into oblivion and then realized he had a green check when he backed off

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:44 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:42 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:41 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:39 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:37 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:36 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:34 am Right now I think the falcon wagon is clean. This flip would do a lot yo resolve six, Dennis, and ted. I really think this is the best choice for today.

What? How on Earth would my flip resolve Six or Dennis?





This is blatant powerwolfing



[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Lol. I love ye falcon bit when ever have you seen me power wolf?? Anyone??

Oh yes, when you led my ML in... I can't remember the game's name, but it was shortly before Xmas.





Just add a few more ?? marks for more incredulous disbelief tho, mi'right?

When did I ever lead your mislynch?

Felt? Maybe?

1. I was bad in felt. Which I'm not here
2. I had covid and don't remember playing felt lol
3. I really don't think I lead anything in felt.

Yeah I think he's saying that you're bad here because it resembles felt

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:41 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:39 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:37 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:36 am

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 10:34 am Right now I think the falcon wagon is clean. This flip would do a lot yo resolve six, Dennis, and ted. I really think this is the best choice for today.

What? How on Earth would my flip resolve Six or Dennis?





This is blatant powerwolfing



[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Lol. I love ye falcon bit when ever have you seen me power wolf?? Anyone??

Oh yes, when you led my ML in... I can't remember the game's name, but it was shortly before Xmas.





Just add a few more ?? marks for more incredulous disbelief tho, mi'right?

When did I ever lead your mislynch?

Felt? Maybe?

Why does PSV still feel bad

I'm like suppressing it because just about everyone else has said they're town (or not actively saying they're scum) but idk. I'm just still getting that feel

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 9:28 am I looked through Dennis' posts, too I was starting to worry the young lad had learned to fool me. But I really don't think so. Dennis has a tentative sound to his posts when wolfy that's just not there. He also hates open nights, not sure if that's playing into it or not, just an observation. I wouldn't vote Dennis.

I did slank during the night but I have little good excuse for like, the rest of the day I kinda wasted

Kate wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:50 pm I don't know what you mean by paying forward a scum agenda.

Hes hiding behind a tmi read of you. Or so he claims, but he's on ted. Nothing he's doing is making sense. This is just not how town falcon plays. At all.

Read my Isa bc I've made like 50 posts about why I think it. Plus vibes.

K I'm totally sheeping this Kate's got that fire in her eyes (to be more specific I think falcon is bad cuz of the aforementioned 50 posts, can't really make my own reasoning if someone else already said it)

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

(Get pocketed )

Kate wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:16 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:09 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:07 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:03 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 10:01 pm side note
falcon/Ted are crossvoting and there's 2 people on both

doesn't really make me think they're w/w
like ok, maybe they could be distancing but it's only D2 and their scumpartner just got elimmed
voting each other is not really the best move rn if they're a team

Why? One of them is likely going down today. If they're teammate was on the other wagon, especially early wouldn't that look pretty townie?

I mean, idk about you guys, but in this situation I'm bending over backwards to save my partner if at all possible. Lot easier to get to parity with two instead of one. Neither is really a lost cause. Part of it is playstyle differences I guess but I would not be voting my last partner here because that's not going to gain them much cred.

yeah, I'd do the same
being a solo wolf is stressful

Yea, I guess that makes sense.

Maybe it's dennis/falcon?

@Dennis why aren't you playing?
@sig can you please read my posts and give me thoughts?

Well there's like 7 excuses I could give