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by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:12 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:59 pm
Dennis wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:50 pm @MacDougall @DrWilgy @Sabiplz @Bereft

Sig is in my solve. However, he's far far far behind Creature and Tutuu in terms of wolfiness. Both Creature and Tutuu have a pov that is damn near impossible for a townie to have at this stage in the game. Creature is clearly coasting. SPF cased Creature as outside of his town meta and wolves ignored it D1. It is D4 and he has coasted through every single day when he could have been yeeted and yet he has not lost any morale or done any work. He's a wolf every time. Tutuu is pushing an absolute garbage POE and has turned on townreads like SPF, Dennis and myself almost purely in self defense. She does not really believe those reads. She has also treated these slots with the mocking tone of a wolf on D4 who has a full team. Practically putting her thumbs in her ears and sticking her tongue out at us. It is not the mindset of a townie on the verge of a loss and she is also a wolf every time. Sig is likely to be a wolf by POE but the case on him is flimsy to the point of nonexistence next to how obviously both Tutuu and Creature are wolves. Tutuu is voting for Sig. We're potentially 1 misyeet away from a loss. I think it's important to yeet Creature or Tutuu today.

I think that also means consolidating on Creature or Tutuu @staypositivefriend @falcon45ca @Seanzie @Dennis. I don't particularly care which, though I think Creature is unlikely to be the Zealot on account of wolves would be perfectly happy "yeeting" the Zealot but they've never managed or even made much of an attempt to "bus" Creature. Tutuu received strong pressure for the first time today and probably has a standard 1/5 chance of being the Zealot (or 1/4 if you assume Creature is never the Zealot).

So I think we should consolidate on Creature but if we'd prefer to consolidate on Tutuu, I'm fine with that, too. I think yeeting Sig today would be a mistake.
Okay ur in the towncore now welcome. There's donuts and drinks over there

This is like exactly my thoughts too. But let's be a wee bit kinder please :)

Can you please explain the case to me because I will live in ignorance NO LONGER

I'm very much more for staying on Tutuu, but admittedly it might be because she was pushing me pretty hard and my defensive mechanisms kicked in so

Dennis wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:16 pm Well I would 100% sooner yeet Creature than Sig, so I'm with you on that. Him voting me just because tutuu is there is ??? because did he ever ask why tutuu is there? And also because I've 'been let off the hook too easy' is like... maybe that's because I'm not mafia

I could vote Creature today, I will def be here before EoD so I'm staying on tutuu for now though

Dennis wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:18 pm
Bereft wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:12 pm I had a sig case, and would not like to be ignored in all of this considering I was the first voter on the current wagon.

Creature's been in contention ever since D1. Who were their voters?
What was your case then

Imma be a sig case expert by the time I'm through with this

Dennis wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:18 pm Hmmm I wonder who Seanzie thinks is bad

Do you guys know
THESE ARE NOT REAL POSTS

stop giving him a pass for no reason ffs

listen:

mafia games can get turbluent. emotional. toxic. thats the name of the game.

listen - roxy died telling us all to kiss her arse. a lot of emotion there. what she said as she was falling in the lava with her middle finger propped up like the terminator in the end of terminator 2 was - DENNIS IS MAFIA

@Roxy is familiar with dennis. they just played before. ive no idea where, what, which, who. it doesnt matter

in order to complete this emotional journey of - anxiety/stress/fight into -> peace, serenity, calm

IS WE NEED TO RESPECT ROXY'S READ

thats how u make the full circle. from hate to love.

WE NEED TO RESPECT ROXY'S READ ON DENNIS.

PLEASE RESPECT ROXY'S READ
No
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:20 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Porscha wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:52 pm
Dennis wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:18 pm Hmmm I wonder who Seanzie thinks is bad

Do you guys know
?????
His past two messages when I said this were telling people to vote Creature

It was a poorly executed joke I suppose
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:18 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Hmmm I wonder who Seanzie thinks is bad

Do you guys know
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:18 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 72569

Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Bereft wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:12 pm I had a sig case, and would not like to be ignored in all of this considering I was the first voter on the current wagon.

Creature's been in contention ever since D1. Who were their voters?
What was your case then

Imma be a sig case expert by the time I'm through with this
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:16 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Well I would 100% sooner yeet Creature than Sig, so I'm with you on that. Him voting me just because tutuu is there is ??? because did he ever ask why tutuu is there? And also because I've 'been let off the hook too easy' is like... maybe that's because I'm not mafia

I could vote Creature today, I will def be here before EoD so I'm staying on tutuu for now though
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:03 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:50 pm @MacDougall @DrWilgy @Sabiplz @Bereft

Sig is in my solve. However, he's far far far behind Creature and Tutuu in terms of wolfiness. Both Creature and Tutuu have a pov that is damn near impossible for a townie to have at this stage in the game. Creature is clearly coasting. SPF cased Creature as outside of his town meta and wolves ignored it D1. It is D4 and he has coasted through every single day when he could have been yeeted and yet he has not lost any morale or done any work. He's a wolf every time. Tutuu is pushing an absolute garbage POE and has turned on townreads like SPF, Dennis and myself almost purely in self defense. She does not really believe those reads. She has also treated these slots with the mocking tone of a wolf on D4 who has a full team. Practically putting her thumbs in her ears and sticking her tongue out at us. It is not the mindset of a townie on the verge of a loss and she is also a wolf every time. Sig is likely to be a wolf by POE but the case on him is flimsy to the point of nonexistence next to how obviously both Tutuu and Creature are wolves. Tutuu is voting for Sig. We're potentially 1 misyeet away from a loss. I think it's important to yeet Creature or Tutuu today.

I think that also means consolidating on Creature or Tutuu @staypositivefriend @falcon45ca @Seanzie @Dennis. I don't particularly care which, though I think Creature is unlikely to be the Zealot on account of wolves would be perfectly happy "yeeting" the Zealot but they've never managed or even made much of an attempt to "bus" Creature. Tutuu received strong pressure for the first time today and probably has a standard 1/5 chance of being the Zealot (or 1/4 if you assume Creature is never the Zealot).

So I think we should consolidate on Creature but if we'd prefer to consolidate on Tutuu, I'm fine with that, too. I think yeeting Sig today would be a mistake.
Okay ur in the towncore now welcome. There's donuts and drinks over there

This is like exactly my thoughts too. But let's be a wee bit kinder please :)

Can you please explain the case to me because I will live in ignorance NO LONGER

I'm very much more for staying on Tutuu, but admittedly it might be because she was pushing me pretty hard and my defensive mechanisms kicked in so
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:53 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Creature wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:46 pm I should prob stay away from this game.

I veto the tutuu wagon.

I prob won't oppose the sig wagon as much.

I'm doing Dennis mostly for tutuu and because I agree that he seems to be left off the hook too easily.

I'll give Sabi space for now.

Also I would like to know where you all stand on falcon.
@DrWilgy you said to this:

Are you finally flailing? idk, probably biased but seems like anti-spew to me boss. I don't find any reason behind the content you've been flinging at the wall this cycle now that the heat is up. That doesn't feel good.

Is this really antispew? OH WAIT THE FIRST SENTENCE im blind and illiterate don't mind me

I was like 'this is a bunch of like final thoughts before signing off??' But no I see the first sentence now, carry on
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:50 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Wow there has been like nothing said that is really weird

Tutuu - I am sorry you lost interest in the game :(

Wilgy - I didn't wanna quote it because I'm on phone, but it your massive post you say something about Creature being in antispew I think? But the post you quoted had a bunch of content no? Hold on I'll go quote it I guess

Bereft - I'm with you on this one I have no idea how there has been this little posts. I showed up around midnight, then went to bed and now I'm in school and there's like 20 new posts which is giving wild ??? what is happening vibes. Does this say anything about the gamestate? No clue idk how to read gamestate but I imagine maybe wolves think they're in the clear
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:44 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Tutuu has, from my perspective:

- OMGUS voted me after I said just one thing about her potentially being bad

- Flipped on multiple of her townreads to make a team based around me being mafia, without my confirmed flip

- Refused to interact with me in any meaningful way after voting me

Seriously, how do I go from being so "pure" to being the worst scum of the earth in one post? And I am aware that tutuu has reached post limit and can't really react to this (which could've been an easy way out of talking but that's a whole other can of worms) but I still want to explain how things are from my point of view
by Dennis
Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:37 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

falcon45ca wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:50 pm
Dennis wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:42 pm I don't think I care enough to catch up like 300 posts right now so hello thread

Okay looking at this page it's a bunch of wagon analysis which goes right over my head but I can try

So what is it that you're using to determine whether there are wolves on wagon or not?
If wagon analysis goes over your head typically, what's your preferred method to hunt wolves?
I wanna make a towncore, and then work around my PoE, my reads, and my towncore's reads to determine the most likely wolf. So like this:

Wilgy
Mac
Seanzie
Falcon
Sabi

Are the people I generally am choosing to trust. But, my vote is on tutuu because I personally have read her as scum. It's an experimental method for now but I have generally been right with picking town, and wrong with picking wolves out of PoE in my short career. It gives the people in towncore a sense of comraderie (or at least it does to me) and I think morale and teamwork are both important to solving a game

My towncore is small currently because I am being stingy with letting people in after I relooked at everyone after Roxy flipped
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:56 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

What don't you like about it? Cuz I just thought she didn't wanna screw over her sub with no card
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:50 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Um okay creature is intimidating me with wagon magic so I'm gonna give him + Town rep and look the other way
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:49 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I have historically bad votes. Ask wilgy, I killed him once and in another game there was the 'for counterwagon' incident of '22
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:47 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Creature wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:17 pm Baudib1: 2
DrWilgy
Seanzie

Roxy: 2
Creature
Dennis

Dennis : 1
Kate

Missed the Vote: 1
Porscha

Those were the players who ended up offwagon EOD1. I guess DrWilgy and Seanzie were on baudib1 when baudib1 was a larger wagon. If Mac is looking for the wolf on Roxy then Dennis may be the one. Kate's vote on Dennis also feels really meh. Porscha not voting anyone may be actually a good look.
I think Kate said she almost missed the vote and voted me 'for the lolz' just so she could pull a card
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:42 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I don't think I care enough to catch up like 300 posts right now so hello thread

Okay looking at this page it's a bunch of wagon analysis which goes right over my head but I can try

So what is it that you're using to determine whether there are wolves on wagon or not?
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:15 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Why am I being read for emotion reasons and not for like, my reads? I genuinely feel like everyone is ignoring me now
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:40 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:37 am
Dennis wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:36 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:32 am @staypositivefriend if ur town please recognize that both me and creature are in the PoE and yet we're voting together for Dennis whos towncore

What does that tell u?

Pls make the right choice and tell ur little doormat Maccie to obey u
wait what is it supposed to say

I'm not good with wagonomatics or whatever I've discovered

On a journey of self discovery for real
If i thought ur town id answer but i dont negotiate with terrorists sorry!
This made me frown
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:37 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Why are we killing people for being emotional
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:36 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:32 am @staypositivefriend if ur town please recognize that both me and creature are in the PoE and yet we're voting together for Dennis whos towncore

What does that tell u?

Pls make the right choice and tell ur little doormat Maccie to obey u
wait what is it supposed to say

I'm not good with wagonomatics or whatever I've discovered

On a journey of self discovery for real
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:31 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

NO IN MY BIG COPYPASTA THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BIG SPACES AT THE LAST SENTENCE TO MAKE IT COOL WTF
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:30 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:17 am CREATURE is TOWN who needs a MORALE BOOST

Please be empathic and give him some space to breathe, dont suffocate him, let his interest in the game come back

He is an asset and we need him. Give him a hand
No I don't wanna

Creature, you smell bad
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:28 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:39 am
Dennis wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:02 am
tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:14 am
Dennis wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:25 pm I think Tutuu has a fair bit of wolf equity now ngl (am I using that term right). She was very very much pushing a 'let's follow Alison legacy' type deal, almost as if she knew it wrong

Not voting there but I've got my eye on you. :eye:
funny coz i thought roxy might be right on yah

my very first forum mafia game in my life, i was 15, i randed mafia, and i obliterated everyone
tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:19 am [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
I thought we were partners. Friends. Besties for the resties. I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING. I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, I COULD HAVE WORKED WITH YOU TO SAVE THIS TOWN.

But no. Alas, instead I am met with betrayal. This is why I go alone. So you know what? When Sheriff Lucy gets you, and you look to me to protect this town, don't expect me to take your gun. Because all you'll get.

Is shot in the head by me.
Spoiler: show
We should turn this into a movie fr
Image

Who the hell do you think I am? I've been dunking on wolves left and right before you were born on this world. This world, as I've been to many. And guess what I've seen in all of them? Little weasels like you, thinking they can get away with defeating me in combat. Guess what, punk. You're 100 years too early if you think you have a chance against me.

I can easily dismantle all of your arguments, uncover your lies, show undisputable proof that you're mafia. Without even lifting my finger. I can make you confess of your crimes simply with the power of my mind.

All of your weak attacks dink off of my shiny armor, dealing 1 damage max. You can't even get over my HP regen per sec.

I'm a 1000 years old shapeshifter, I've seen civilizations rise and crumble to dust, I've seen generations of people living and dying. And guess what I haven't seen?

A coward as big as you.

You hide behind your laurels from Day 1. You used your wolf buddies to help you get a good standing. And now you dare think you can defeat me. Your beginner luck has gotten to your head, thinking you can accomplish such a feat. I suggest training for 10 more years and then maybe just MAYBE you'll be worthy enough to be in the same arena as me. Until then, you're nothing but a weakling. A mob with a gray level that I won't even receive XP for after I crush you.

Get out of my sight...
Ummmm oink oink oink

Yeah I said it. The fact that you think you can use your past experiences to prove yourself to me is laughable. Because I may be new to this world. But my soul, my SPIRIT, my ENERGY, has been carried from body to body in this bloodline for eons, and eons to come. You know Kate? The mafia savant (according to Golden that one time)? Yeah, she's my MOTHER. My overwhelming power is resonating within me and it. Wants. OUT.

But you don't see me flaunting all of this power, do you? No. Because I don't expect people to just believe me. Or fear me. I PROVE myself. In fact I've already caught the entire mafia team. You wanna know?? Tutuu/tutuu/tutuu/tutuu and hmmm.. I don't know, maybe TUTUU. What have you done so far? Tried your hardest? Gave your "best effort"? NOT GOOD ENOUGH. TRY KILLING THE ENTIRE WOLF TEAM IN A SINGLE DAY AND MAYBE I'LL BELIEVE YOU.

Maybe you're good at catching wolves. But that relies on you not being a wolf yourself. I truly can't believe I ever thought you were trying to help. I suppose that must say something about your skill. But alas. NOTHING. Gets past me.

Not even little rats like you.
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:14 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:46 am
Dennis wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:07 am I think the amount of posts tutuu wastes is respectable and I wish I had that confidence

Anyways someone tell me who to vote cuz I'm a wolf and don't know who to vote without getting sussed but I still want my card
The fact that DENNIS doesnt respond to my super saiyan wall after saying he wishes to turn it into a movie outs him as MAFIA

Town dennis would pretend to scumread me just so he can go all out and write tons of silly stuff with me jokingly tunneling each other

Mafia denis is more concerned about his team welldoing than his personal fun, he doesn't wanna risk getting scumread for doing something wild, so hes prioritizing his 5 person team winning over having fun for himself only
Town dennis is, unfortunately, worried of throwing the game for town too and accidently making someone think I do actually scumread you

Mafia dennis is to be determined

But if you REAAAALY want me to, sure I guess I can [VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I'll be back in a few minutes with a response to your story
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:10 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Sabiplz wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:52 am
Dennis wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:22 am Can SOMEONE give me feedback on my Sabi read I feel like I'm being ignored
I can't give feedback on a read on myself
Hence the someone. I don't even care who it is anymore someone say something
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:42 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Is this argument (seanzie v mac) not screaming town v town to anyone else??? Like Mac is frustrated in a town sorta way, not a wolf frustrated with pressure. Seanzie is really trying to keep his cool and explain his thoughts process. That alone is enough for me to think that honestly

But also the fact that both arguments make sense really sorta seals the deal for me. Town can be wrong all the time so it's not wild that they are differing. This reminds me of the argument D1 of LGM between Seanzie and SVS which got a little heated but it was kinda obvious to everyone who wasn't them they were both town
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:22 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Can SOMEONE give me feedback on my Sabi read I feel like I'm being ignored
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:21 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Can we stop calling Sabi Kate plz and ty
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:07 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I think the amount of posts tutuu wastes is respectable and I wish I had that confidence

Anyways someone tell me who to vote cuz I'm a wolf and don't know who to vote without getting sussed but I still want my card
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:54 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Sabiplz wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:46 am I don't know why tutuu turned on Dennis or why Dennis turned on tutuu.
Mostly because I thought it would be really funny to write a bunch of copypastas

I thought I made it clear I still think tutuu is town, most of the time, but I am also a wee bit confused on how I dropped from like the top of her townreads list (unless that wasn't ordered) to being voted so :shrug2:
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:11 am
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I remember thinking to myself "I really should go to bed at a normal time". It's 1 in the morning good lord how am I still going
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:08 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:15 am @Dennis vote me u dont dare. u 2 scared. gonna cry?
No you're right I am too scared and tears are already forming

I still don't think you're 100% bad get the fuCK OUT OF MY TOWN-level bad because honestly, the way you presented your cases was very genuine and I think you actually believed what you were saying. But I can't just ignore how hard you pushed flipping Roxy. So you're in this unique spot where I can't force myself to townread you OR scumread you, so if I had to put it into words I guess townlean. But it's a concept I'm very much struggling to put into words.
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:02 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:14 am
Dennis wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:25 pm I think Tutuu has a fair bit of wolf equity now ngl (am I using that term right). She was very very much pushing a 'let's follow Alison legacy' type deal, almost as if she knew it wrong

Not voting there but I've got my eye on you. :eye:
funny coz i thought roxy might be right on yah

my very first forum mafia game in my life, i was 15, i randed mafia, and i obliterated everyone
tutuu wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:19 am [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
I thought we were partners. Friends. Besties for the resties. I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING. I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, I COULD HAVE WORKED WITH YOU TO SAVE THIS TOWN.

But no. Alas, instead I am met with betrayal. This is why I go alone. So you know what? When Sheriff Lucy gets you, and you look to me to protect this town, don't expect me to take your gun. Because all you'll get.

Is shot in the head by me.
Spoiler: show
We should turn this into a movie fr
by Dennis
Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:57 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

L + ratio + I'm making a huge ass post you're gonna have to scroll through like 14 times
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:38 pm
Bereft wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:34 pm If anyone wants to talk me about interactions and consequently possible scumteam worlds then I'd love to talk, don't think I will make any earthshattering revelations about individual players at the moment.
Jack's entire contribution to the game was to tunnel Alison for shit reasons day 1 and then slank. Baudib1 had a lock scum read on him. He is mafia.

Tutuu has ruthlessly pushed town near exclusively while doing nothing but blatantly pocket others. She is mafia.

Kate was scummy. Sabi subbed in and continued being scummy.

Start there.
I have thought Sabi has been more town. Like the way they entered wasn't a mafia frustrated they were dropped in a sus position but instead a townie upset that they're expected to be obvitown after like a day
lucy wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:46 pm i will do my due diligence today, and because there are 5/14 players alive who are wolves i should be control the lynch today

@staypositivefriend can you post a readslist
These posts are beginning to drive me crazy. You CANNOT tell us what to do with no reasoning behind it. Make a case, or say SOMETHING other than, for example, 'Jack is vetoed today'. Just because you are confirmed town does not mean you are right. Like what Roxy said in her last post. We are too close to lylo to be playing follow the leader.
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:59 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:29 pm

The game being hard does not automatically mean Bereft/SPF/Mac contains mafia. If us three were dead and Baudib, Alison and Rondo alive you'd probably have the exact same argument with different names.
Keep on powerwolfing man, it's a reasonable thing to do. You're going to have to deal with me all day though.
Okay I'm done with you. I pleaded with you to work with me yesterday and you ignored me. I'm burying you today.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
From my POV, you have not tried to work with me at all. I explained my case on you yesterday and you just called it illogical and then got upset and started AtEing. Since you've used similar AtE on me when you were a wolf in the past, you burned the one "I'mma drop it in case this is real town frustration and not manipulative AtE" card you get. I don't think I've been rude to you, and I get how this game can get heated at times, and I believe your frustration is probably genuine, but I also know you expressing frustration in the thread is NAI, so you can't expect me to just change my reads because of it.

Bury away.
You have given me zero opportunity to explain my mindset to you in a way that could persuade you to change your read. I have been very townie. You have been a town killing machine and accusing me of the opposite. You should actually reevaluate me properly if you are town. I made a day 1 solve you quoted and questioned me on that so far has had 3 town flip from my towncore and 0 mafia. Largely players you've pushed. Either you're a cause or complicit in the destruction of the town wincon in this game imo.
I've suspected town, but I have not killed anyone. Who have I pushed that then got chopped because of it?

You can say my reads are shit, but town killing? no.

Why are you letting town from your towncore flip so easily?
Oh yes I forgot I control every vote in the game.

I literally created a wagon day 1 to try to save them. Fuck off.
This entire interaction has made me think Seanzie/Mac is town/town.
Sabiplz wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:52 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
What the fuck do you want from me
This is what I was talking about before. I don't think a mafia comes in this aggressive. Sabi has clearly laid out what to expect from them this game and they aren't gonna work harder just because you don't townread them.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:06 pm Imma be honest, I don’t know what polarized even means.
I don't either, and googling it didn't help.
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:32 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:52 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
What the fuck do you want from me
Ya know, I'll yeet this kind of attitude into the sun every time.
I'd sooner yeet your attitude than Sabi's to be completely honest
by Dennis
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:25 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

I think Tutuu has a fair bit of wolf equity now ngl (am I using that term right). She was very very much pushing a 'let's follow Alison legacy' type deal, almost as if she knew it wrong

Not voting there but I've got my eye on you. :eye:
by Dennis
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:11 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Who on God's green earth sent that anonymous message because I am failing to keep my composure after reading that
by Dennis
Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:09 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Well. I have been wrong about like 4 people. I clearly need to rethink just about everything. So, you may be asking, did you do anything about it? NOPE! I didn't want to :yum:

Roxy, I am sorry you had a miserable game. You are rightfully upset and I respect that.

SO! I shall make an attempt to be more involved today. I hate to have to practically reset the entire game but I think at this point everyone is more or less in my PoE once again.
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:06 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:53 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:02 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:27 pm Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)


More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)


Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)


Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two
Why am I so high, or even on, your town list? Why is Mac Maf?
Shut up and let me townread you, stinker

I kinda liked how kept pushing Rondo despite the fact he was "IC". Like I thought it was weird too and very glad I didn't have to do it myself. Other than that nothing of note comes to mind but you play half seriously (joking around a lot) like the other civ games I played with you.

Ackkk, PoE. I should just make two groups, town and PoE like tutuu at this point. The other people in there are more town. He also felt a teeny bit weird when you were pushing him, but he also was getting frustrated so taking that into account its probably nothing.
Wait, so is he Maf or not?


Ya know, you've been here...true. But this kind of equivocation makes me go hmmmmmmmm
I had to look up what that word meant

I was talking about that specific circumstance probably being nothing. I don't make reads based off of one interaction. He generally has confused me with ?? arguments and as such he is lower on PoE than most of everyone else who I think makes more sense for a town.
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:18 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

I am definitely better at finding town and elimming off of PoE. Probably why my D1 votes are always sheeping or bad votes

I also like being allowed to trust certain people's reads
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:16 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:02 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:27 pm Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)


More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)


Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)


Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two
Why am I so high, or even on, your town list? Why is Mac Maf?
Shut up and let me townread you, stinker

I kinda liked how kept pushing Rondo despite the fact he was "IC". Like I thought it was weird too and very glad I didn't have to do it myself. Other than that nothing of note comes to mind but you play half seriously (joking around a lot) like the other civ games I played with you.

Ackkk, PoE. I should just make two groups, town and PoE like tutuu at this point. The other people in there are more town. He also felt a teeny bit weird when you were pushing him, but he also was getting frustrated so taking that into account its probably nothing.
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:08 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

I'm beginning to regret formatting my reads list like this

The groups are not ordered in any way except obviously lucy being IC

Consider the 'More likely town than not' and 'Mafia' groups my remaining PoE

Now to address falcon unless I forgot something that's about to come back and bite me
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:50 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Creature wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:43 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:27 pm Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)


More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)


Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)


Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two
What's up with Bereft?
Process of elimination, I found everyone else more towny than him so he gets plopped in there until something changes
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:48 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:57 pm
Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:54 pm I'm baffled the recent spate of shade on Dennis/Rondo but I couldn't keep track of the people doing this.
yeah I was baffled by Dennis' shade on me too
That's because I'm very scared of you from our experiences together and I was getting too comfortable with you
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:02 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

I think. I probably should've thought about that a bit more before I said it. The little greater than or less than signs really confuse me when used in mafia
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:01 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:00 pm
Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:58 pm
Bereft wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:54 pm I'm baffled the recent spate of shade on Dennis/Rondo but I couldn't keep track of the people doing this.
That is to say I think the people doing this are >randwolf and I want a list on them so I can go bash them.
lol what does this even mean?
He's suspicious of people sussing us
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:49 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:43 pm
Dennis wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:41 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:38 am
Dennis wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:35 am This checks out, if we still assume you count as IC because you lied about being oracle (which I very much question why that decision was made but okay)

I do think you genuinely believe everyone thinks you're town because you CC'd so sure, you can be town. For now.
I have two claims to IC this game one of them is oracle
I don't think I want to open this can of worms

I LIED YES I DO AAAAGAGAGAGAG what are those claims
If you cant figure them out then you dont get to know SON
That's mildly frustrating but I also don't think I care enough to figure it out so I think I'll just let this cultivate attention. Maybe someone else can tell me cuz I'm not about to do both that and this french homework
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:41 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:38 am
Dennis wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:35 am This checks out, if we still assume you count as IC because you lied about being oracle (which I very much question why that decision was made but okay)

I do think you genuinely believe everyone thinks you're town because you CC'd so sure, you can be town. For now.
I have two claims to IC this game one of them is oracle
I don't think I want to open this can of worms

I LIED YES I DO AAAAGAGAGAGAG what are those claims
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:40 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

@everyone who is saying that I'm not hunting

Yeah what are you gonna do about it lol

I've found a lot of people to be asking the questions I would be asking, and so a lot of my progression probably sucks if you look at my ISO (hence the reads list I just posted). So yeah I don't wanna repeat questions if I don't have to. Post limit is a thing I'm scared of too but that's secondary
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:32 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Have at it, folks. My body is ready. My mind is clear. Not really because I have homework I still have to do. But come at me anyways.

[Insert badass gif of someone standing menacingly preparing for a fight or smth here]
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:27 pm
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Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Town

lucy (she/her)
falcon45ca (he/him)
DrWilgy (he/him)
tutuu (any)
Seanzie (he/him or they/them)
staypositivefriend (she/her)


More likely town than not

Jackofhearts2005 (he/him)
Porscha (she/her)
Sabiplz (they/them) - Replaced Kate N2
RondoDimBuckle (any/Rondo)


Which leaves me with:

Mafia

Bereft (he/him)
Creature (he/him)
MacDougall (he/him)
Roxy (she/her)
sig (he/him)


Of course this is a GTH mafia team. Realistically my PoE is more like the 2nd and last group, I'd be willing to cut Jack and Sabi out of PoE but still not certain on those two
by Dennis
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Cartomancy [Game Over]
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Views: 72569

Re: Cartomancy [Day 3]

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 pm @everyone

Talk to me about my closer to null players. Who has a strong opinion on Sabi/Porscha/Wilgy/Seanzie/Sig/Rondo? Who should I be smart enough to townread and take out of this pile?
I say Seanzie and Wilgy are town from this list. Those are my two strongest reads

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