The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:22 pm Yeah I think wagons are more alright now.

and what reads do you get out of that?-

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:21 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:18 pm Mfw my past self convinced someone to sr one of my towniecore fml.

I did ask you a while back which of your predecessor's reads you didn't share and why. Why is Creature towniecore for you?

I replied to your post linking the one i disagreed with as far as the why's i've alr explained multiple times why i think creature is townie do me a quick iso and you will see cba to repeat myself.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:20 pm

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:17 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:13 pm

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:11 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:07 pm

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:06 pm Creature and Valentine

Reasoning on Valentine?

I didn't like their post in which they voted for the former. The same one you found sus. I don't rule out that they could've been trying to bus either, as they seemed to invite that suggestion

Are you suspecting me for "tExTbOoK wOlFpLaY"? Because that's so 2018.

I was quite persuaded by parts of Strawhenge's ISO of you earlier. And I didn't like you coughing up a roleclaim under little pressure.

It's incredibly infuriating to have a stagnant unmoving wagon on myself and it almost completely inhibits my motivation to play because I need moving wagons preferably on non-me to read the gamestate and the players.

There was a decent amount of moving around wagon wise between dz/cape/you and guillo

Mfw my past self convinced someone to sr one of my towniecore fml.

IBA wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:15 pm Man the fellow kids energy radiates off of this one

what is fellow kids energy

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:11 pm I'm still annoyed you're all speculating what my role is instead of just letting tomorrow say by itself. It feels like something wolves would talk about for busywork.

I kinda agree on this but thats mostly based on the fact that i find mech talk to be boring as fuck.

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:08 pm I responded to the wrong post up there and don't know how to edit but you get me.

Editing is against the rules afaik so better not to know.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:07 pmWhat is it?

he quoted the wrong post thats his reply to who he sr's
and not that i know of on the claims side

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:06 pm Creature and Valentine

Reasoning on Valentine?

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:58 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:50 pm

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:49 pm

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:48 pm

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:45 pm

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:43 pm Re: Creature roleclaim. What kind of roles would be useful to town that could be proved at the start of a day phase? I haven't played much role madness.

vig, cop, a weird ic, some sort of booster / gift giver (arms dealer?)

neighbouriser too

neighbouriser doesn't clear shit

yh but its "outting" d2.

I was thinking thats what he meant. why I left out things like angel etc.

Because ultimately, IC is the only reaaaaally self verifiable role (unless he outs or shoots a mafia)

This is true
Also why tf are you guys feeding potential fake claims to Creature if he's scum
Like, most of you have said he's scum so idk why we're having this discussion

Just popping in to skim while the band takes a break, and wanted to say this

oh no whatever shall we do. Without my post creature would never have thought to claim cop as scum, this revolutionary technique has stumped us

tr

Mungbean wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:02 pm I have town reads on 2-3 people on this Guillo wagon, but I'm not sure what the main basis for it. Is it just meta?

I dont think i've seen you say who you sr yourself so far so any shots you wanna take at guessing that?.

@Schiavetto smh you could've given me a pfp that doesnt get me confused with someone else.

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:43 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:42 pm

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:40 pm if Gulio says he loves me one more time I'ma burst into flames I hate affection.

I simp for you, does that count?.

Also Sabi whats your take on Guillotine?.

I'm a super good scum player don't simp for me I could be tricking you I'm tough and scary.

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:42 pm low key my only super strong town read is chelsea so take that as you will

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Its okay im also fine simping for scum as long as i vibe with their playstyle /hj.

Im not arogame, i just put the pfp schia threw at me.

oh alr said aight sheeping chelsea and sabi and staying on guillo.

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:40 pm if Gulio says he loves me one more time I'ma burst into flames I hate affection.

I simp for you, does that count?.

Also Sabi whats your take on Guillotine?.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:36 pm I gotta drive now.

Yes, i could still be scum that needs to drive so dont read into it

kinda based and makes me wanna hop back to dz wagon. even though i dont agree with that vote at all.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:33 pm I haven't seen manny as wolf before so good to know

because i havent randed wolf yet idk where did he get that from unless Santy or SilverKeith told him about my wolf meta?.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:31 pm Quick time read: Manny feels different to when he is scumming, feels more willing to shade others and jump on people tbh.

How would you know if im different to when im scumming i literally have played 3 actual games so far and i randed town in all of them.

Switching wagon to guillotine.

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:29 pm [VOTE: GUILLOTINA] aubergine

vote has not moved.

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:27 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:22 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:57 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:52 pm

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm wanted to GIVE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND IF PEOPLE WOULD TRAIL ON
being proactive is a curse this is why i never try

anyways whatever i said about creature is out the window because everyone's like "oh but what if creature" but where's the drive to manifest it. he's not like doing anything.

damn this posts actually howls hard as fuck, you should've posted this before tr'd you smh.

very strongly disagree. The drive to actually commit to a creature wagon when the thread has been handwaving around him is very protown

Kinda hard disagree with your disagree

I wanna see what Creature does

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine

TOWN!!!!

lmfao, thats literally a 3p.
Kinda wanna tr this.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:22 pm For creature it's really kinda a volume thing more than anything which feels a bit bad if he's just busy IRL but in my experience he cannot keep himself away from spamming thread when he's town and he really has comparatively low presence in this game to the point he seems uncomfortable. When he does post as wolf the content is usually similar to his town style, he's just not as in your face and less happy to be in thread

There is also another reason for why would his activity drop down and thats kinda if he was burned out from the mash, and i think he kinda was based on his comments on the last days and his post-game/graveyard takes. But considering its a meta read and i dont know his meta much or if any at all i am willing not to sr you based on it even if i disagree as for Valentine im still iffy on it.

Oh Guilo = Guillotine im dumb. Im fine with wagoning him i sr him-

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:21 pm DeeZees (DrZeus)=assuming the same MU guy?

yes

Who is Gulio?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:14 pm I think your view here is exceptionally shallow and I think you should try and assess val and creature from a different pov. Val reminds me of a certain archetype and her devil may care attitude strikes me as hyper town. I've been trying to get it into your head that I strongly think creature is a hit based on meta and I want pressure to remain there so I'm glad val is knocking sense back into the thread after we kind of shrugged about him for a while. If youre town I hope you can think a couple levels beyond surface of this interaction and see it other ways

Why would you need to point me that her idgaf attitude is town, that was my reason to towniecore her before the Creature wagon. But the creature wagon does not match up on the idc vibe i was getting before from her she went from just vibeing going with the flow to now actually doing a full on 180 and trying to create and push wagons for the fuck of it? it just doesnt match up with what i had been vibeing with before.

As far as Creature being assesed from another PoV its just not that easy for me to do since my way of reading is 100% based on vibes and mindmelding people or agreeing with their plays or finding them funny. Like i wouldnt be absolutely shocked if he flipped wolf but the fact that im not reading him as one makes me wanna suspect the people forming a wagon against him.

Also i changed my mind if it comes to creature or cape ill vote cape mostly because his wagon feels better.

My vote is in the best place it can be in aka the next most voted wagon that is not in my towniecore.

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:08 pm If you don't want to talk about creature right now and deal with that what do you think about nutella defending me

It makes me want to SR Nut based on the reasons they are defending you for. I *think* you are still town-leaning but i heavily disagree with the creature wagon and the need to force a wagon to appear just for the sake of it.

The fact that there is not a single unified wagon should actually be a good sign of the day, since if there was only one big one i would be a lot more inclined to believe its a misslynch.

My brain wants to SR everything surrounding this creature wagon which will end up with a loop of being wrong if im wrong about Creature pain.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:02 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:57 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:52 pm

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm wanted to GIVE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND IF PEOPLE WOULD TRAIL ON
being proactive is a curse this is why i never try

anyways whatever i said about creature is out the window because everyone's like "oh but what if creature" but where's the drive to manifest it. he's not like doing anything.

damn this posts actually howls hard as fuck, you should've posted this before tr'd you smh.

very strongly disagree. The drive to actually commit to a creature wagon when the thread has been handwaving around him is very protown

She voted dz on that same page or the one before it, dz asked for reasons she said to ask later in an hour to then proceed to unvote and vote creature with a reason thats wack imo. Doesnt help that i also dont like the fact that Creature is a wagon to begin with and based on the one game i played with him (big sample size) i dont feel like he would care much or feel pressured with being wagoned specially considering that in this game his playstyle has been not caring much imo.

jumping from dz then deciding fuck it creature is the better vote based on threadstate looks organically towny to me, shrug

Not without giving any actual proper reasoning for it. Then again this is arguing around circles so ill stop this thought train.

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:02 pm Okay then do something with ur vote rather than complain that u don't like the wagon my god
You have the power to change how things are going
counterwagon me or something

Why the absolute fuck should i vote you before the creature vote you were on my towniecore. Now im having doubts but not enough to actually jump off my current wagon, i only have one vote not 20.

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:01 pm am i bussing now or am i pushing town and if you think the former: just help me bus for now and deal with me tomorrow or whatever, arguably something something bussing partner to save self blunder blah blah. If u think i am a wolf pushing town why do u think everyone's been so reticent about the slot all game

People can be reticent due to the fact that they tr him lol doesnt necessarily mean scum and that same argument would apply to you that have been sr'd a lot so far with 0 actual push or votes.

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:59 pm DO u think all of the people who have been hand wringing about the slot are town. are the other people voting him all town too?

The wagon is literally two people i Sr, the third party and you. I would burn that wagon alive.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:57 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:52 pm

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm wanted to GIVE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND IF PEOPLE WOULD TRAIL ON
being proactive is a curse this is why i never try

anyways whatever i said about creature is out the window because everyone's like "oh but what if creature" but where's the drive to manifest it. he's not like doing anything.

damn this posts actually howls hard as fuck, you should've posted this before tr'd you smh.

very strongly disagree. The drive to actually commit to a creature wagon when the thread has been handwaving around him is very protown

She voted dz on that same page or the one before it, dz asked for reasons she said to ask later in an hour to then proceed to unvote and vote creature with a reason thats wack imo. Doesnt help that i also dont like the fact that Creature is a wagon to begin with and based on the one game i played with him (big sample size) i dont feel like he would care much or feel pressured with being wagoned specially considering that in this game his playstyle has been not caring much imo.

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm wanted to GIVE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND IF PEOPLE WOULD TRAIL ON
being proactive is a curse this is why i never try

anyways whatever i said about creature is out the window because everyone's like "oh but what if creature" but where's the drive to manifest it. he's not like doing anything.

damn this posts actually howls hard as fuck, you should've posted this before tr'd you smh.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:49 pm given a choice of the two?

lynch creature over cape. Even if im vibeing with creature he is participating / providing less to the game so i would mind less if he died.
Also last mash i played with him i was sr'ing on d1 based on not agreeing with him on most stuff which is not happening here idk if that is a bad or good sign.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:45 pm Valentine and Mnny are literal sheeps and im not really confident i deserve it from schia feels like shes accusing me of tmi? Dunno really

If i see cape/creature being the main wagons ill switch to whichever wagon has the most votes to save them for the record.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:33 pm I mean, go thru their ISO and let me know if you find it towny.

i dont agree with this read but it feels genuine and i like the inquiry
I dont agree with most of these reads but i kinda find the meh into ...meh... funny enough to actually tr it, i also feel like as scum you would maybe try harder to not be sr'd and this just doesnt feel like she cares that much about perceptions which is also the vibe i get from her on a lot of posts she just feels genuine to me.

That + i liked her ¿argument? ¿discussion? with you when the ina stuff was happening

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:26 pm Scum can't actually hunt...they already know the answer. Openly admitting to latching onto SRs is an easy way to not hunt, and hide in plain sight so to speak

There is nothing inherently wrong with sheeping specially if you arent confident in your sr reads yourself but are on your tr. I can relate to Valentine on that which also makes me wanna tr her more.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:26 pm Ah Manny is Arogame. Ok

I have no clue what or who arogame is i just put on the pfp that schiavetto sent me cuz they were annoyed at me for not having one lmao.

Schiavetto wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:18 pm or did I miss your response

here

Apparently i suck at pinging people as well, L's all around.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:15 pm Fuck... I'm gonna be permanently scum read by you in every game because I'm not a comedian. I get featured in horror movies, I give Freddy Krueger nightmares.

dw you can be funny by mistake that also works.

@Schiavetto happy?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:08 pm I still disagree with your town leans on Chelsea and Valentine whom have a high chance of being partners in my opinion. I disagree with your confident scum read on Creature, they haven't done anything drastic to deserve that, they have just been...meh? His self confirmable role soft is what stops me from going ham on him because I'm not that crazy to go after him unless I catch him slipping, but a townread like you picture it? Nah my friend.

Also, I no longer scum read petit, still undecided on DeeZee.

I don't think we are gonna be agreeing much in this game by the looks of it.

im guessing u typoed scum read and meant town read. My reply to Valentine/Creature is kinda the same i like their playstyle and find them funny overall that automatically makes me default to town-reading them just based on vibes i could perfectly be wrong with them and i might change my mind later on if other people flip or they make more posts and i dont vibe with those but as for now they both feel like townies to me. As For Chelsea she is a mindmelding machine with whom i agree in 80% of her posts to the point that it might aswell be 100% also she is funny.

Petit might switch to town-lean on my behalf just based on the fact that he defended cape which makes me like him. As for you ill wait some days and see if my Sr goes away or stays there, im not really the type of player to push wagons anyways ill mostly stick to sheeping my towniecore.

Offtopic is there any way to set up the notifications so that the tab gets a number or gets red when i have a new alert? similar to MU.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:03 pm - Falcon
- IBA

Have you given reasoning for IBA and Falcon? if yes can you link.