The Syndicate

Pyxxy what is your read on Jack?

Im still kinda amazed that Jack got traction at all fwiw

I think all this vote switching from Seanzie is villa indicative btw

Stow

Who would you vote between Jack/Vivax/Falcon Inawy?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:26 pm jack is spewed mafia by the votecount

From Jack eagon I only townread you so Im thinking quite the oppositte tbh

And falcon can still self pres onto Jack so lol at Jack being the lead wagon

I am the only one on Vivax wowee .Tragic decision

Vivax > Falcon > Neon > Schia

Think this is my yeet priority rn? Maybe slots like Dezees and Pyxxy are in the same tier as Schia or one below

It was a joke smh

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:18 pm lol maybe it's santy

Just confess already. You are scared that I steal the top poster slot from you tbh

What

We have the numbers to just turboyeet Schia if they are al8ve after purge

I dont see where is the 'ill intent' or scummyness when Jack talked about falcon to do the push. You agreed on that nutella right? You said you mindmelded on that with me too

Like, Im sorry but I think that Jack solving at least have been provilla and has a higher bar than much more slots today tbhtbh

Jack shouldnt be the yeet today what the actual f tbh

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:59 pm Falcs just a villager.

Enlight us please?

I think Jack is near confirmed player by hk wagon right?

Also the way they bringed up the Neon joke as a counterclaim to poke at Ender and them agreeing with my read when I had Ender as town to then vote Ender was overall scummy.

Near too wolfy to be a wolf almost but blegh

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:22 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:35 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:30 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:29 pm Jack vote Guillo with me uwu

For why?

Because they arent clearly town tbh.

Dont care if its an npc or magia player much. Just bang bang

lol

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:17 pm [VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

Will be in a ‚meeting’ later.
Is everyone else also split in half ?

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:32 pm [VOTE: DeeZees] aubergine

Guy sitting to my left literally started meowing yesterday.
He never meowed before.
Maybe cause of who was sitting in front of him, or cause I was contaminating his head. Or someone else perhaps.

Either way, ignorance is bliss and bliss sucks

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:26 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:03 pm Ok, well

Ender is mafia.

So do with that what you will

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

He the false reality dude ? The sig is nonsensical as is but I don‘t mind voting with you.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 5:00 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:54 pm vivax could be a wolf but I'm a huge fan of his posting

And I‘m like one of those Fallout ghouls.
Yo ho ho

Sure, why not

[VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:58 pm [VOTE: SANTYGRASS ] aubergine

cant vote Ender here he is town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:05 pm santygrass (6): Guillotine (48), Vivax (26), pyxxy (7), EnderWiggin (67), DeeZees (25), Creature (46)
hollowkatt (6): santygrass (59), Jackofhearts2005 (46), Ranmilia (96), Dyslexicon (46), tutuu (66), DrWilgy (16)

@Vivax just wanted to highlit that when you voted me, you switched off hk without a reason, and in a wagon that had most of the people you voted previously.

Think I will probably give you the Guillo treatment too and if you arr alive after the purge you should be murderized too

Dont think the way Vivax moved with their vote D2 was villa indicative at all

This Dz wagon came out of nowhere , and I dont even know why they are voting them lol

And I even have sus on Dz but the npc equity is high + they had the ender npc fakeclaiming read yesterday

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:18 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:16 pm Nutella can you talk to me about why is Jack sus to you? Is there something else than the falcon read?

i talked about his treatment of me earlier too

like he expressed some reason he thought i *could* be wolfing but clarified that he still thinks i'm probably town and it kind of felt like papering over tmi and/or testing the water on if i'm pushable bc a couple others have sussed me

Ahhh yeh I remember it kk .

Damned by the hedge , tragic.

Now imagine if both Schia and Silverkeith came near EoD and fill the minimum post 2 min before Day ends or something like that. Epic gamer moment

Nutella can you talk to me about why is Jack sus to you? Is there something else than the falcon read?

Jack you need to correctly spell falcon for the vote to count fwiw

I still have my D3 read that the tutuu kill pointed at probably my wagon having a scum member. Now its a group reduced to Dz/Vivax/Pyxxy . It may be dumb but I think that Dz is still NPC tho I have slme waver , and between Pyxxy and Vivax I think that Vivax is most likely scum. Their votes D2 were super scummy and me having doubts on Vivax is from fear of them also being an npc lol

Schia is never town here ftr . But still NPC equity and just a insta turboyeet if they are alive after purge so I dont think its a optimal slot to yeet? Idk

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:49 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:41 pm Hey, I just did a quick search on DZs ISO, and had some thoughts. Anyone else care to take a peek? I'd like to compare notes

Tell me what to look for and I'll read it and confbias into the same worldview as you.

Some santy interactions that pop out to me as odd...like, santy doesn't seem concerned w/ solving that slank slot whatsoever

I pressured Dz and they hard npc claimed , so of course I wont give them more attention lol.

At this point I might take a break from thread because the level lf reads regarding my slot is kinda ridiculous and I dont if I can handle them in a civiliced manner tbh.

I still think that a fair and still kinda basic analysis of D2 is clearing for me and I will take that read to my grave /shrug

The last skill issue I did was refering to myself uwu

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:18 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:12 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:32 am Or you can ISO me, I have a towncase on myself in SoD D3 I think and if you actually read the ISO and want to solve should reach to the correct conclussion that I am town anyways /shrug

I'm not going to ISO you.

But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh

I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.

How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh

And I wasnt a CFD , I was lead wagon for quite a while that day , so the wagonomics for a mafia team that doesn't know how many players could be on each wagon dont add up at all

You being a lead wagon all day suggests that wolves would not block-vote together to save you.

This read is so crazy. Like wtf. Me being a lead wagon a bug oart of the day without push back or you know, actual cases on me is super villa indicative lol.

Unless you assume mafia wasnt playing I guess in which case you do you and prepare a Skill Issue crown /shrug. Like, I think your read is basically wrong here

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:43 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:17 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

I'm not going to ISO you.

But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh

I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.

How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh

Here was the VC with an hour left in the day:

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm Not Voting (7): MacDougall (33), Inawordyes (20), JaggedJimmyJay (35), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (73)
chelsea (2): Golden (47), ~Prince J~ (18)
santygrass (6): nutella (171), Creature (121), DeeZees (44), pyxxy (14), Guillotine (192), Ranmilia (125)
marmot (2): Marmot (88), sprityo (24)
michelle (4): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (21), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18), TonyStarkPrime (31)
scotty (4): Lilypetal (39), EnderWiggin (165), RondoDimBuckle (163), tutuu (83)
hollowkatt (6): iaafr (236), Jackofhearts2005 (108), Hally (188), Dyslexicon (100), Vivax (42), DrWilgy (30)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (66)
lily (1): falcon45ca (22)
guillotina (1): katze (131)
nutella (1): Michelle (116)
master radishes (1): Sloonei (33)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (85)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (30)
sloonei (3): santygrass (83), Scotty (52), Ricochet (10)
manny (1): Manny (223)
golden (1): lucy (19)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (10)
test (1): Lumi (78)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (23)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (43)
enderwiggin (1): Neon (88)

If a single member of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then unless the other 3 are going to block-vote, that gives wolves only saving power of 2 - your selfpres plus a wolf saving buddy.

That means that HK or Michelle are the only ones who could have been viable saves for you. HK is the natural choice at this point, so as long as one other person is a wolf on HK, that makes sense.

if two members of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then your case is even weaker.

Even if all four wolves are around for EoD, unless they were block-voting together, they can't just magically stop your wagon from tieing.

Now think again consider the NPCs here. A 2 player or 3 player block ALWAYS would save someone here. So If I am a wolf, a partner would be voting with me kinda always otherwise it would be just a dumb play. And because scum doesnt know too who is a player and their vote counts and who doesnt a tie is simply not viable to pull / risk being scum lol

"A 2 player block ALWAYS would save someone here" is categorically false. A 3-player block might, but that requires 3 people to all be around for EoD and all to vote together on a wagon that has been a lead wagon all day. Hell, I'd say if you flip wolf, there's probably a wolf on you at that EoD, hedging their bets that the towncred they'd get from that will be worth more than keeping alive someone who is majorly suspected in thread.

And again. NO. Because the people on a wagon could be NPC, scum voting together is a guaranteed 2 player block and that in D2 specially before purge is such a huge boost to odds of surviving that the scum team should be literally dumb to not do that or try something to save a partner.

Like, go and reread D2 and see that there wasnt a 'big case' on me or that I was 'Majorly suspected' to even assume that scum wouldnt try to save me if I were scum like lmaooo this shouldnt even be discussed woweee

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:25 pm So the next logical step in the mental chain Nutella, using Sean’s #3 as a slight bolstering effect, is that if we agree that in broad strokes there’s direct mafia influence in Falcon’s wagon, then is that good or bad for Falcon?

You are scumreading my push for a hedious reason .
Nutella is sussing Jack (which I disagree)

I think this is a jump in logic to give a kinda good look on falcon that hasnt been posting towny at all tbh

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh

I want to say that I heavily disagree with the 'falcon push has a mafia there' as a means to solve because it sounds like a super confbias read and I would think that Jack is prob town regardless of Falcon alignment here fwiw. The way that Jack pushed I think is just Villa indicative to me /shrug.

I also have other posts I quoted but I am sneaking in at work and cant spend much time posting smh skill issue

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:17 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:32 am Or you can ISO me, I have a towncase on myself in SoD D3 I think and if you actually read the ISO and want to solve should reach to the correct conclussion that I am town anyways /shrug

I'm not going to ISO you.

But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh

I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.

How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh

Here was the VC with an hour left in the day:

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm Not Voting (7): MacDougall (33), Inawordyes (20), JaggedJimmyJay (35), risiinq- (45), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (73)
chelsea (2): Golden (47), ~Prince J~ (18)
santygrass (6): nutella (171), Creature (121), DeeZees (44), pyxxy (14), Guillotine (192), Ranmilia (125)
marmot (2): Marmot (88), sprityo (24)
michelle (4): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (21), hollowkatt (81), Chelsea (18), TonyStarkPrime (31)
scotty (4): Lilypetal (39), EnderWiggin (165), RondoDimBuckle (163), tutuu (83)
hollowkatt (6): iaafr (236), Jackofhearts2005 (108), Hally (188), Dyslexicon (100), Vivax (42), DrWilgy (30)
drwilgy (1): SilverKeith (66)
lily (1): falcon45ca (22)
guillotina (1): katze (131)
nutella (1): Michelle (116)
master radishes (1): Sloonei (33)
c4e5g3d5 (1): c4e5g3d5 (85)
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto (30)
sloonei (3): santygrass (83), Scotty (52), Ricochet (10)
manny (1): Manny (223)
golden (1): lucy (19)
guillotine (1): Seanzie (10)
test (1): Lumi (78)
unvote (2): WindwardAway (105), arogame123 (61)
arogame (1): Sabiplz (243)
golden the coward (1): G-Man (23)
dr. wilgy (1): ilario (43)
enderwiggin (1): Neon (88)

If a single member of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then unless the other 3 are going to block-vote, that gives wolves only saving power of 2 - your selfpres plus a wolf saving buddy.

That means that HK or Michelle are the only ones who could have been viable saves for you. HK is the natural choice at this point, so as long as one other person is a wolf on HK, that makes sense.

if two members of the wolves weren't around for EoD, then your case is even weaker.

Even if all four wolves are around for EoD, unless they were block-voting together, they can't just magically stop your wagon from tieing.

Now think again consider the NPCs here. A 2 player or 3 player block ALWAYS would save someone here. So If I am a wolf, a partner would be voting with me kinda always otherwise it would be just a dumb play. And because scum doesnt know too who is a player and their vote counts and who doesnt a tie is simply not viable to pull / risk being scum lol

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:16 pm

Also

*Steals gif*

I think your point fundamentally has zero sense at all and after this game ends I hope you never use it again because is dumb.

I am not saying that I 'know' like how are you remarking, I said it made me feel better / have more confidence on falcon being a hit, just by the fact that a townread expressed confidence on them being scum and Me vibing with that read. There isnt much science about it and I just feel dumb keeping this argument at this point tbh. Like, its basic stuff still

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:32 am Or you can ISO me, I have a towncase on myself in SoD D3 I think and if you actually read the ISO and want to solve should reach to the correct conclussion that I am town anyways /shrug

I'm not going to ISO you.

But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh

I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.

How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh

And I wasnt a CFD , I was lead wagon for quite a while that day , so the wagonomics for a mafia team that doesn't know how many players could be on each wagon dont add up at all

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:32 am Or you can ISO me, I have a towncase on myself in SoD D3 I think and if you actually read the ISO and want to solve should reach to the correct conclussion that I am town anyways /shrug

I'm not going to ISO you.

But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh

I went back and skimmed through EoD2 to give myself some context on the wagonomics thing. Walk me through why you think EoD2 clears you. I am NOT going to look through 7 pages of your ISO for a post that I don't know what it looks like.

How a scum team of 4 ends uo with a mafia being tied at the end. And look at the votes on my end and the votes on my counterwagon, and the overall EoD when I came in ig. I think its kinda clearing town indicative for me tbh

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:04 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:53 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:48 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:36 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:34 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:23 am And I'm asking because that post doesnt reflect that read lol

I think you think you've found an aha moment that doesn't exist.

No, it's me asking you if your read is changing or has a waver because of what that post reflects. So can you talk to me about your current read ln Porscha regardless?

Like wtf Neon, why you refuse to cooperate I am not going to find you like that wowee

Because me saying I'm gonna laugh if every player on the wagon is town

Doesn't mean I'm no longer town reading Porscha anymore santy.

It means I think my worldview is correct but everyone keeps saying the wagon was scum driven. And i don't see how you think it's anything else. Like I don't see how you think a lot of things your saying today.

I would expect more a

> It will be funny when the whole Ran wagon flips town

If you were really holding the Porscha townread.

The If conditional made me question the read you had on Porscha at the moment.

What other things you think 'Im not believing' ?

I do not know what Porscha will flip. So why would I not say if? This makes no sense lol.

I think you believe everything you say. I said I don't understand how you believe them. And i don't lol.

Yeh I can see that but idk how to express it but /tonally/ I would expect that line I said from a strong townread on someone, hence why I asked.

That's also because I usually go with high confidence in my reads so I wouldn't had putted that if or would had expressed it different for sure, but that could be a more 'me' thing , and the reason I think I asked too

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:03 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:00 pm I dont understand the confidence part?

If I see acorrect read, its because I think the view is correct and the slot they are sussing is likely to be a hit. So why wouldnt do that increase my confidence?

Broooooooo, that’s literally your own words in the post I replied to. You’re the one who is saying that having confidence in Falcon being more likely a hit is part of your reason for placing the vote. How do you not understand?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Because a townread sussing that slot increases the confidence I have of them being a hit?

If the case was done by someone I dont trust to be town it would be different bcuz scum agenda could be involved

Again I am going tl make a comparison that is not 'equal to the case' but more like an exaggeration to be more clear.

Player A is a townread. Player B is a PoE slot.

Then comes Player A with a copcheck that Player B is mafia.


That *is* a confidence boost on Player B being more likely to be mafia, and I shouldnt need another reason (?)

Like, here the cop check would be replaced with Jack recent posts about Falcon, but id what are you even digging into bcuz yeh I think its a pretty basic stuff

I dont understand the confidence part?

If I see acorrect read, its because I think the view is correct and the slot they are sussing is likely to be a hit. So why wouldnt do that increase my confidence?

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:51 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:40 am Also @Neon can you talk about what you didnt liked about my Lily push?

Saying that *after* Lily was yeeted and not hint at it in any way before felt super disingenous to me fwiw

I don't recall saying that. I do recall saying stuff about how I wasn't here for EoD and it sticks that I wasn't cause I couldn't find lily.

I may have said that and forgotten now *shrugs*

I went and reread and you're right I think I misingerpreted your words so my bad tbh

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:48 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:36 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:34 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:23 am And I'm asking because that post doesnt reflect that read lol

I think you think you've found an aha moment that doesn't exist.

No, it's me asking you if your read is changing or has a waver because of what that post reflects. So can you talk to me about your current read ln Porscha regardless?

Like wtf Neon, why you refuse to cooperate I am not going to find you like that wowee

Because me saying I'm gonna laugh if every player on the wagon is town

Doesn't mean I'm no longer town reading Porscha anymore santy.

It means I think my worldview is correct but everyone keeps saying the wagon was scum driven. And i don't see how you think it's anything else. Like I don't see how you think a lot of things your saying today.

I would expect more a

> It will be funny when the whole Ran wagon flips town

If you were really holding the Porscha townread.

The If conditional made me question the read you had on Porscha at the moment.

What other things you think 'Im not believing' ?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:46 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:45 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:42 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am ? Why would I have 'specific reasons' to agree with a read?

I see a read, agree with the thought process/arguments behind it, and I sheep.

Like, I can also agree with it because Falcon was PoE and stuff for me but dont get the last part of 'having reasons that im recluctant to share' . Where does that come from?

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am Like.
Player A comes in and says that B is mafia because they posted three times.

Do I have to have another reason to agree with a read like that? Or another motivation on *why* I think its correct? Like wowee I think its correct because I agree with the fundamentals smh

False equivalency, that has not been Falcon’s state in this game at all and comparing it to a “barely-posted = scummy” read also dismisses Jack’s reasons as trivial at the same time. You’re avoiding the question

I think either I am not understanding your question at all or it is a slander on sheeping and a big moot point to follow.

I am not doing an equivalency, my point is that agreeing to a read should be enough to sheep someone and you questioning that just feels pointless to me, there is no need to have 'another reason' to agree with a read

I’m questioning because your vote stood out to me as there being something off about it, and when asked about it the reasons you’ve given are lackluster and tonally it feels like you are withholding thoughts from the thread wrt your explanation for sheeping. It’s not that you agree and are sheeping that I’m taking issue with, it’s the why, and immediately you got defensive over it to write two separate posts as a response when FMPOV I’m didn’t even push that hard. And that’s making me want to push more now because something feels very off

Because I took it as sheep slandering and still dont get it.

Like, you asked if I was witholding other thoughts when sheeping, I said no. What more is there to question??

And again with the 'why the sheeping' . There shouldnt need more reason that 'I agree with the read' / 'I townread / trust the player I'm sheeping' . And I heavily dislike the line of questioning because it feels ill intended / isnt going to take us anywhere tbh

It could take us to your flip?

That would be a 100% Skill Issue moment for Villa tbh

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:45 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:42 am @Seanzie what. Is. Town. About. Falcon.

You said you think it was t/t violence between Jack and Falcon recently, so how you came to the falcon being Villa read please

Actually I said me/Jack was t/t and you're the wolf flame fanner sititng on the sideline.

Regardless, Falcon doesn't feel uncomfortable. I've already said this, and you're accusing ME not not reading when we BOTH can't read. Pots and kettles and such!

Oh lol. Then how I am flame fanning when my insight was to say why I townread Jack and vote falcon? How do I fanned flames between you and Jack there at all with a townread? Please explain

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:42 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:27 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:23 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:15 am ? Why would I have 'specific reasons' to agree with a read?

I see a read, agree with the thought process/arguments behind it, and I sheep.

Like, I can also agree with it because Falcon was PoE and stuff for me but dont get the last part of 'having reasons that im recluctant to share' . Where does that come from?

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:16 am Like.
Player A comes in and says that B is mafia because they posted three times.

Do I have to have another reason to agree with a read like that? Or another motivation on *why* I think its correct? Like wowee I think its correct because I agree with the fundamentals smh

False equivalency, that has not been Falcon’s state in this game at all and comparing it to a “barely-posted = scummy” read also dismisses Jack’s reasons as trivial at the same time. You’re avoiding the question

I think either I am not understanding your question at all or it is a slander on sheeping and a big moot point to follow.

I am not doing an equivalency, my point is that agreeing to a read should be enough to sheep someone and you questioning that just feels pointless to me, there is no need to have 'another reason' to agree with a read

I’m questioning because your vote stood out to me as there being something off about it, and when asked about it the reasons you’ve given are lackluster and tonally it feels like you are withholding thoughts from the thread wrt your explanation for sheeping. It’s not that you agree and are sheeping that I’m taking issue with, it’s the why, and immediately you got defensive over it to write two separate posts as a response when FMPOV I’m didn’t even push that hard. And that’s making me want to push more now because something feels very off

Because I took it as sheep slandering and still dont get it.

Like, you asked if I was witholding other thoughts when sheeping, I said no. What more is there to question??

And again with the 'why the sheeping' . There shouldnt need more reason that 'I agree with the read' / 'I townread / trust the player I'm sheeping' . And I heavily dislike the line of questioning because it feels ill intended / isnt going to take us anywhere tbh

@Seanzie what. Is. Town. About. Falcon.

You said you think it was t/t violence between Jack and Falcon recently, so how you came to the falcon being Villa read please

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:38 am Santy is a strong townread/townsidingnpcread. No agenda detected. Seems to actually gad about hunting. It's nice that Santy townreads me and scumreads my scumread but my read on Santy is less about that and more about process. Only the NK analysis process seems a little questionable.

You didn't make a case on Falcon but Santy vibed with that case. What case were they so happy about you making? Where is it? You said yourself that your read on Falcon had nothing to do with NK analysis, but the posts they quoted did not include any other content about Falcon.

Seanzie are you a wolf or like you cant read at all?
I already said that the post I quoted was why i TOWNREAD Jack, not what convinced me on the case.

I voted Falcon because previous PoE + Jack's recent posts and confidence on falcon being more likely a hit

Also @Neon can you talk about what you didnt liked about my Lily push?

Saying that *after* Lily was yeeted and not hint at it in any way before felt super disingenous to me fwiw

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:35 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:32 am Or you can ISO me, I have a towncase on myself in SoD D3 I think and if you actually read the ISO and want to solve should reach to the correct conclussion that I am town anyways /shrug

I'm not going to ISO you.

But why did you ISO Michelle then? Whats this favouritism smh