The Syndicate

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:06 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:05 pmBeans.

Beans.

Beans.

rip

yeah but I mean, from what I'm seeing you just held until Epi voted, instead of voting nook and seeing if Epi would follow

you talked about this in not leading the thread when Epi asked

well, either you're scum or we're randing a town death

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine so I don't forget

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:52 pm [VOTE: PYXXY] aubergine

in jack we trust

why not vote nook? idgi

okay so if I'm understanding correctly

I have to self-pres

and nook's vote post is terrible but delta voted me

and that's why I set alarms for deadlines

hello hello, refreshing

tbh [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine for now I'm back to flipflopping after looking at past scum nook

is it a faux pas to invite you to that server

it kinda feels wrong but idk it did get opened post-game

I mean only if you wanted to read it

dang now I'm chewing on that game and it's just such a different nook

I'm going through our mafia discord chat and he was just.....a real player that knew what was going on

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:28 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:07 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:23 pm @pyxxy gonna swing your question back to you, do you have any wolf games here or on MU I can take a look at?

yee

lolcat scum game - https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2508
me actually winning and wolfing with nook, lmao - viewtopic.php?p=1037046#p1037046

and then my MU profile only has 1 scum game where I got D1 for nonsense reasons and then Michelle carried my useless butt to victory
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39251

Will read these in a bit \o/ thank you

How do you perceive Nanook's wolf game? Since you won together in the champs practice game

I mean like glancing at nook's iso in that game, this post says it all
(spoiler'd since it's a post from another game) - replied to someone (me, his scum partner)
- followed up by actually @ing me

compared to this game where he just has done.....nothing.....the entire time

so like, it's not the nook wolf that I wolfed with. that's why I was talking about EV and such, when I was deep into your VCA.

to be clear I had forgotten that I had wolfed with nook in that game although I did remember playing well in that game, so I'm just saying this ain't _that_ nook. he could have difference styles like how I've been questioning you :/

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:11 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 6:01 pm

Spoiler: show

LinearPoint
4
27%


Voters: Thunal33, Delta, leetic, Dyslexicon

Scotty
2
13%


Voters: S~V~S, Seanzie

S~V~S
0
No votes


Voters: None

DrWilgy
1
7%


Voters: pyxxy

Seanzie
0
No votes


Voters: None

Thunal33
1
7%


Voters: Roxy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes


Voters: None

Delta
1
7%


Voters: Scotty

pyxxy
2
13%


Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005

Epignosis
0
No votes


Voters: None

Roxy
0
No votes


Voters: None

leetic
0
No votes


Voters: None

Long Con
0
No votes


Voters: None

Dyslexicon
1
7%


Voters: Epignosis

Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes


Voters: None

Unvote
0
No votes


Voters: None

Beans (mod, spec)
3
20%


Voters: Justplayingitcool, iaafr, JaggedJimmyJay

Who subbed in for dizzy? Abby?

................yes

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:04 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:01 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:13 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:37 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:00 pm

Spoiler: show

S~V~S
2
13%


Voters: Roxy, Long Con

DrWilgy
1
6%


Voters: Jackofhearts2005

Thunal33
0
No votes


Voters: None

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes


Voters: None

Delta
0
No votes


Voters: None

pyxxy
0
No votes


Voters: None

Epignosis
0
No votes


Voters: None

Roxy
0
No votes


Voters: None

leetic
1
6%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Long Con
4
25%


Voters: Epignosis, Thunal33, Delta, leetic

Dyslexicon/Princess Abigail
1
6%


Voters: pyxxy

Jackofhearts2005
2
13%


Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, DrWilgy

Unvote
1
6%


Voters: S~V~S

Beans (mod, spec, dead etc)
4
25%


Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, Scotty, Seanzie, Justplayingitcool

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:11 am I might legit self vote if it saves Wilgy at EoD

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:29 pm Vote Wilgy

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 3:43 pm
It's probably not Jack though

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:57 pm Vote Jack

Vote [VOTE: PA] aubergine

Done with this foolishness.

Cry more rands are stupid and I won't let them happen they give us no info

Voting Delta

I don't understand what "cry more rands are stupid" means.

If, as I understand, you are opposed to random polls (due to ties), what information you have you gained so far?

It means. Complain more.

Rands are dumb.

Well one thing I'm relatively certain of is that wolves were comfortable EoD

but like, is there a deeper philosophical or gameplay opinion that you hold for why rands are dumb?

or are they just dumb

tbh I think I'll just wait for Delta to read my scum games and post thoughts and go from there

sleeping on things always does help me, I should do that more

so I'm at
nook - useless, maddening, want to kill out of spite
delta - VCA looks really bad, but now gameplay looks kinda alright
roxy - kinda same post she made, if she's wolfing then hats off because we've all accepted you and hopefully the concussion is getting better
epi - the LC bus would just have to be insane and playing that other game with Epi (hk was in it? idr exactly), town vibes are similar
Abigail - well......I do like me some tinfoil

Delta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:07 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:28 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:05 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:37 pm I think it could be nook. Bus once, bus twice, what's the difference if you're already bussing. Roxy just reads town to me + idt she would play the game this way as wolf given *waves*. Epi entering strong onto Abigail made me pause but I want to talk more with him. Maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough but it's like the pattern appeared for me.

That leaves nook and Abigail. And I thought about this as I was processing EOD and coming to where I am now. I wanted to see how Abigail would enter too. Yeah I wrote my thoughts in that spoiler before her arrival today but I've figured out that people often skip spoilers.

But Abigail also saw what I was seeing with the VCA yesterday when I first posted it. I suppose maybe I could see you two being a difference check, if Dizzy was truly back to doing Dizzy things. But then my strength of belief in Abigail here just makes me feel more certain that you're a wolf.

With nook the issue is that if I think you're his partner, nothing in my analysis of the game changes from nook flipping wolf. It becomes nk WIFOM whether I live or die and nook truly adds nothing to the VCA or the solve. Obviously he was a better chop than Jack, because then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Although I guess SVS just tunnels Jack for another day at that point? Idk.
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Your lack of desire to push nook is giving me some pause here. I would expect you to just lay into him here and want to get him over. But I can't really see another solution to this puzzle, and the theory already backs up bussing once. Maybe Alison has just messed with my expectation of scum teams in that one game.

You said you can run threads as scum. Do you have any scum games (preference for this site or MU) that I could read? No promises.

I want to give things a good run over because while I think Nanook is most likely hit, there's still an issue of his partner & there's only so much that can be said about Nanook to begin with given his lack of thread presense.

I hate the bolded though, maybe a little more evident in the games I link but I'm not one to bus anyway ;_; though regardless that kinda worries me because if Nanook is mafia, I do worry you're setting up to just go 'lol Delta bussed again oops lets kill him ' which is an uneasy feeling.

I can grab some links to games, I think my best example is Turtles Mafia where I was pushed every day but survived every day regardless because those pushing me just died every day :wowee: I was top poster by a good margin and generally just would not shut my mouth

As for MU, I'll link my first & most recent wolf rands since I think they're both pretty good examples of how I play:
viewtopic.php?t=2535
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... 6-D6-Mafia
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... rbo-Burial (was Gengar in this game)

I read your ISO in Turtles Again yesterday

you make shorter posts, are more to the point, clearer about who you're trying to push and why
all things that if you were partnered with a low activity wolf, I would expect you to do the inverse of over the course of this game, start low and then ramp once town voices are dead

do you think that this is a pretty big tell for you? or can I tinfoil that you've intentionally switched up your style in this game?

you also pushed falcon aka the slanker equivalent from that F5 lmao (for legal reasons this is a joke)

hm okay I'll go read your other games

You can tinfoil if you like but also I wouldnt specifically switch things up for this game considering the fact that while I am kinda familiar with a few people here, I'm still new enough that I can get away with playing wolf comfortably?

On MU there's a game-to-game difference with my wolf rands because I had a period of just non stop wolfing with similar playerlists
I dont think it would really apply here?

these are solid points if they're not lies (hehehehehe)

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:23 pm @pyxxy gonna swing your question back to you, do you have any wolf games here or on MU I can take a look at?

yee

lolcat scum game - https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2508
me actually winning and wolfing with nook, lmao - viewtopic.php?p=1037046#p1037046

and then my MU profile only has 1 scum game where I got D1 for nonsense reasons and then Michelle carried my useless butt to victory
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39251

D6 mafia game makes your scum game look classy but also that's scarier bud

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:05 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:37 pm I think it could be nook. Bus once, bus twice, what's the difference if you're already bussing. Roxy just reads town to me + idt she would play the game this way as wolf given *waves*. Epi entering strong onto Abigail made me pause but I want to talk more with him. Maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough but it's like the pattern appeared for me.

That leaves nook and Abigail. And I thought about this as I was processing EOD and coming to where I am now. I wanted to see how Abigail would enter too. Yeah I wrote my thoughts in that spoiler before her arrival today but I've figured out that people often skip spoilers.

But Abigail also saw what I was seeing with the VCA yesterday when I first posted it. I suppose maybe I could see you two being a difference check, if Dizzy was truly back to doing Dizzy things. But then my strength of belief in Abigail here just makes me feel more certain that you're a wolf.

With nook the issue is that if I think you're his partner, nothing in my analysis of the game changes from nook flipping wolf. It becomes nk WIFOM whether I live or die and nook truly adds nothing to the VCA or the solve. Obviously he was a better chop than Jack, because then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Although I guess SVS just tunnels Jack for another day at that point? Idk.
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Your lack of desire to push nook is giving me some pause here. I would expect you to just lay into him here and want to get him over. But I can't really see another solution to this puzzle, and the theory already backs up bussing once. Maybe Alison has just messed with my expectation of scum teams in that one game.

You said you can run threads as scum. Do you have any scum games (preference for this site or MU) that I could read? No promises.

I want to give things a good run over because while I think Nanook is most likely hit, there's still an issue of his partner & there's only so much that can be said about Nanook to begin with given his lack of thread presense.

I hate the bolded though, maybe a little more evident in the games I link but I'm not one to bus anyway ;_; though regardless that kinda worries me because if Nanook is mafia, I do worry you're setting up to just go 'lol Delta bussed again oops lets kill him ' which is an uneasy feeling.

I can grab some links to games, I think my best example is Turtles Mafia where I was pushed every day but survived every day regardless because those pushing me just died every day :wowee: I was top poster by a good margin and generally just would not shut my mouth

As for MU, I'll link my first & most recent wolf rands since I think they're both pretty good examples of how I play:
viewtopic.php?t=2535
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... 6-D6-Mafia
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... rbo-Burial (was Gengar in this game)

I read your ISO in Turtles Again yesterday

you make shorter posts, are more to the point, clearer about who you're trying to push and why
all things that if you were partnered with a low activity wolf, I would expect you to do the inverse of over the course of this game, start low and then ramp once town voices are dead

do you think that this is a pretty big tell for you? or can I tinfoil that you've intentionally switched up your style in this game?

you also pushed falcon aka the slanker equivalent from that F5 lmao (for legal reasons this is a joke)

hm okay I'll go read your other games

[VOTE: nook] aubergine

in my Epi phase, I cannot possibly lose to this

also good morning

sorry day went sideways

I'll be on ~6 hours from EOD tomorrow and shouldn't have much else going on

Sorry I absolutely got lost in that answer.

Extracted: the problem with nook is that he's nook. It's like, the EV of him being scum -> the EV that we gain towards winning this game, vs the odds of him being town and playing like this. If that roughly makes sense.

Side bar, the vig shot has really screwed up the numbers, this is not a critique, with doc dying everything just got screwy too and we lost any chance to even it out. But if there was a sleep option (@host?) that would almost certainly be the right choice for us here. Granted all that probably does is get Epi killed. :/

I think it could be nook. Bus once, bus twice, what's the difference if you're already bussing. Roxy just reads town to me + idt she would play the game this way as wolf given *waves*. Epi entering strong onto Abigail made me pause but I want to talk more with him. Maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough but it's like the pattern appeared for me.

That leaves nook and Abigail. And I thought about this as I was processing EOD and coming to where I am now. I wanted to see how Abigail would enter too. Yeah I wrote my thoughts in that spoiler before her arrival today but I've figured out that people often skip spoilers.

But Abigail also saw what I was seeing with the VCA yesterday when I first posted it. I suppose maybe I could see you two being a difference check, if Dizzy was truly back to doing Dizzy things. But then my strength of belief in Abigail here just makes me feel more certain that you're a wolf.

With nook the issue is that if I think you're his partner, nothing in my analysis of the game changes from nook flipping wolf. It becomes nk WIFOM whether I live or die and nook truly adds nothing to the VCA or the solve. Obviously he was a better chop than Jack, because then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Although I guess SVS just tunnels Jack for another day at that point? Idk.
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Your lack of desire to push nook is giving me some pause here. I would expect you to just lay into him here and want to get him over. But I can't really see another solution to this puzzle, and the theory already backs up bussing once. Maybe Alison has just messed with my expectation of scum teams in that one game.

You said you can run threads as scum. Do you have any scum games (preference for this site or MU) that I could read? No promises.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:06 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 pm tbh

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

PA called you mafia and didn't vote you in the end.

What do you make of PA?

it's a mess

the VCA is helping clarify things for me, e.g. why wouldn't scum Abigail just stick on me and not move to nook, or just let it rand and not bring up caring about ties

it made me remember previous games with her where she similarly messed around with votes at EOD for reactions _and_ to avoid a tie

and it would be so blatantly "saving" her scummate nook that like. why not kill Delta then? a hardcore nook voter? and just try to slam Roxy through today?

killing SVS, a Roxy defender, seems like partially down that path, that's one thing I'm not sure what to do with

You are missing my point.

PA is defending players in one breath and then voting those same players out when it matters.

What is your interpretation of that? Is PA a civilian?

It's a bad look but like, I've been clear and more lost in my tinfoil earlier in this game.

More than a bad look, it's hypocritical and easily avoidable. Precisely so avoidable that I don't understand why scum Abigail would do it. That's my point. Yesterday's EOD makes no sense for scum Abigail to do. And VCA and possibly bussing of Long Con makes me think Delta is a hit. Yesterday I wanted nook out because I townread Jack. I'm around to chop nook or Abigail and win the game for scum. That's where my paranoia is at right now. There's been a consistent refrain since Wilgy about how the game is harder now. Delta scum lines up with that. Also she's faded more and more as the other vocal town have been killed off. Letting town eat itself?

That's where my head is at right now. Also I feel bad about EOD yesterday and what I said. It's all being taken into account.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:18 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 pm tbh

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

PA called you mafia and didn't vote you in the end.

What do you make of PA?

it's a mess

the VCA is helping clarify things for me, e.g. why wouldn't scum Abigail just stick on me and not move to nook, or just let it rand and not bring up caring about ties

it made me remember previous games with her where she similarly messed around with votes at EOD for reactions _and_ to avoid a tie

and it would be so blatantly "saving" her scummate nook that like. why not kill Delta then? a hardcore nook voter? and just try to slam Roxy through today?

killing SVS, a Roxy defender, seems like partially down that path, that's one thing I'm not sure what to do with

We are beyond reactions. We are in "votes matter" mode. PA is voting opposite at the last minute based on what PA said. PA is full of shit and needs to go.

I understand the stakes.

a factor in this is that we're in milo

because if there were 4 scum total, we would have just lost yesterday, and 2 scum total wasn't considered when people talked about this setup at the start of the game

which makes it 4v2. milo. although looking at the poll now I don't see sleep as an option? so possibly it's not in this setup

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:53 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 pm tbh

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

PA called you mafia and didn't vote you in the end.

What do you make of PA?

it's a mess

the VCA is helping clarify things for me, e.g. why wouldn't scum Abigail just stick on me and not move to nook, or just let it rand and not bring up caring about ties

it made me remember previous games with her where she similarly messed around with votes at EOD for reactions _and_ to avoid a tie

and it would be so blatantly "saving" her scummate nook that like. why not kill Delta then? a hardcore nook voter? and just try to slam Roxy through today?

killing SVS, a Roxy defender, seems like partially down that path, that's one thing I'm not sure what to do with

tbh

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

D1:
LinearPoint - 4
Voters: Thunal33, Delta, leetic, Dyslexicon

Scotty - 2
Voters: S~V~S, Seanzie

DrWilgy - 1
Voters: pyxxy

Thunal33 - 1
Voters: Roxy

Delta - 1
Voters: Scotty

pyxxy - 2
Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005

Dyslexicon - 1
Voters: Epignosis

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D2:
S~V~S - 2
Voters: Roxy, Long Con

DrWilgy - 1
Voters: Jackofhearts2005

leetic - 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Long Con - 4
Voters: Epignosis, Thunal33, Delta, leetic

Dyslexicon/Princess Abigail - 1
Voters: pyxxy

Jackofhearts2005 - 2
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, DrWilgy

Unvote - 1
Voters: S~V~S

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D3:
DrWilgy - 4
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Jackofhearts2005, ☆Princess Abigail☆

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 2
Voters: Delta, pyxxy

Roxy - 1
Voters: Epignosis

Jackofhearts2005 - 1
Voters: S~V~S

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D4:
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 3
Voters: Delta, pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005

Jackofhearts2005 - 5
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, ☆Princess Abigail☆, Roxy, S~V~S, Epignosis

@Abigail, sorry for being rude and a jerk at eod

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:41 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:38 pm v!Nanook:
- Mafia in those who have saved him
- Abi saved both days, Epi/Roxy voted against the wagon yesterday

w!Nanook:
- Partner in those less vocal about townreading him
- Pyxxy voted Nanook both days, Roxy has scumread him but never moved to vote him

Addendum:

Dont think Abi ever works with w!Nanook & don't think Epi ever works with w!Nanook
Don't think Abi is town in a v!Nanook world? But less confident

Would argue they're probably a diff check? But I'm. Not 100% & it's not something I could comfortably push right now

"Dont think Abi ever works with w!Nanook & don't think Epi ever works with w!Nanook"
why?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:40 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 5:33 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:46 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:25 pm on my second flight of the day and I’m not going to pay $20 for shit internet so speed round here from what I remeber reading while making my connection

-I literally didnt see the fake red post i explained this fuck off
-I was going towards VCA showing abi delta team tbh but if abi is willing to put forward delta then that’s obv not it
-exciting that now nook is on the table but ofc yall arent voting him

“Door is now closed”

should i vote nook or delta seems like the question

Delta has at least been playing the game

Lol wolf

I mean this in the nicest way possible



fuck off

I don't really care about your schedule

Your a wolf

I didnt ask

oh nice

abigail actually has to be honest about her reads now

ad every 20 minutes for shit internet

but it is _free_ internet

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:46 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:25 pm on my second flight of the day and I’m not going to pay $20 for shit internet so speed round here from what I remeber reading while making my connection

-I literally didnt see the fake red post i explained this fuck off
-I was going towards VCA showing abi delta team tbh but if abi is willing to put forward delta then that’s obv not it
-exciting that now nook is on the table but ofc yall arent voting him

“Door is now closed”

should i vote nook or delta seems like the question

Delta has at least been playing the game

Lol wolf

I mean this in the nicest way possible



fuck off

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:27 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:25 pm on my second flight of the day and I’m not going to pay $20 for shit internet so speed round here from what I remeber reading while making my connection

-I literally didnt see the fake red post i explained this fuck off
-I was going towards VCA showing abi delta team tbh but if abi is willing to put forward delta then that’s obv not it
-exciting that now nook is on the table but ofc yall arent voting him

“Door is now closed”

should i vote nook or delta seems like the question

Delta has at least been playing the game

Vote Nook and I might switch there at EOD.

Vote Delta and I'm not voting him over you.

Best I can offer.

nice i picked right while ohone typing

pulling away gl if i dont have wifi

[VOTE: nook] aubergine

yes i can see the poll but I dont think self presing on my townread makes any sense

He can also solve better than me even if he’s worried about multitabling soon i would rather have him alive than me

on my second flight of the day and I’m not going to pay $20 for shit internet so speed round here from what I remeber reading while making my connection

-I literally didnt see the fake red post i explained this fuck off
-I was going towards VCA showing abi delta team tbh but if abi is willing to put forward delta then that’s obv not it
-exciting that now nook is on the table but ofc yall arent voting him

“Door is now closed”

should i vote nook or delta seems like the question

Delta has at least been playing the game

jk that's a dumb question and I'm not being productive

one on one off one wildcard?

LC wagon is either clean or 1 bc of formation and simple brain logic

bedtime soon but tomorrow might reread what competing wagons existed

the issue is where's the credit claims besides the obvious

unless so secure that it's safe to nk thunal and just rock with most of her legacy

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what's your read on Abigail?

D1:
LinearPoint - 4
Voters: Thunal33, Delta, leetic, Dyslexicon

Scotty - 2
Voters: S~V~S, Seanzie

DrWilgy - 1
Voters: pyxxy

Thunal33 - 1
Voters: Roxy

Delta - 1
Voters: Scotty

pyxxy - 2
Voters: Long Con, Jackofhearts2005

Dyslexicon - 1
Voters: Epignosis

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D2:
S~V~S - 2
Voters: Roxy, Long Con

DrWilgy - 1
Voters: Jackofhearts2005

leetic - 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Long Con - 4
Voters: Epignosis, Thunal33, Delta, leetic

Dyslexicon/Princess Abigail - 1
Voters: pyxxy

Jackofhearts2005 - 2
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, DrWilgy

Unvote - 1
Voters: S~V~S

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D3:
DrWilgy - 4
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Jackofhearts2005, ☆Princess Abigail☆

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - 2
Voters: Delta, pyxxy

Roxy - 1
Voters: Epignosis

Jackofhearts2005 - 1
Voters: S~V~S

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yay colors

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:29 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:24 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:22 am L indeed

I can't give enough of a shit about mafia anymore to scream and shout at people to get off obv towns like Wilgy anymore be cause it upsets me when they don't listen.

Whereas if I give up... well I hate myself cause I was right but at least I'm not toxic

we stan a non-toxic biodegradable queen

We do indeed

So do you still want me dead?

yeah kinda but not in a productive way atm, unless I want to accuse you of shielding slanky nooky boy or something wild like that, but you're right about nook just being nook, but really if he doesn't pick it up tomorrow then like wtf is he doing

I'm coming around to SVS's approach of just finding a scumread, because my catch up felt like a whole bunch of people talking about how people weren't paired with LC and how it didn't make any sense

so I find it towny to go for something

the only thing I would second guess about SVS was those comments at some point about how LC was a good scum and not easily caught. and idr that really be revisited at all after the flip

Epi following up on Jack felt a little weird, but I think that's more because I townread jack, his reaction to Epi's progression reminds me of when he and Camilla were lost in the sauce and we all got son'd by Alison, where I feel like his scum game has slightly less...belief in denying suspicion? idk

sort of writing this in pieces while I look at VCs. wait I'm dumb I'm not doing my color in things. lemme post this and break open the CSS

@☆Princess Abigail☆ roxy wasn't kidding tagging you is a pain

setting aside our.....differences

why is roxy a wolf?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:22 am L indeed

I can't give enough of a shit about mafia anymore to scream and shout at people to get off obv towns like Wilgy anymore be cause it upsets me when they don't listen.

Whereas if I give up... well I hate myself cause I was right but at least I'm not toxic

we stan a non-toxic biodegradable queen

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 12:54 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:43 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:42 pm Nobody is on my level

Must be very lonely.

Sometimes but I met a girl and she's pretty and dope so I mean less lonely now

hey

..............

W

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:05 am Sighs

that's it from you?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:36 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:11 am I might legit self vote if it saves Wilgy at EoD

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:29 pm Vote Wilgy

Glad you ain't my bodyguard.

I wasn't saving him no matter what I did. I gave up.

L

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:11 pm Anyways it's still pyxxy and Roxy

mao

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:14 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:09 pm The issue I have with Roxy trying to open up the POE is not just that she's trying to open up the POE in and of itself. I understand that town Roxy only has to disagree with one of Wilgy or Nanook being scum to think the POE is wrong.

It's also the way she's going about it.

And I admit this is totally unfair pushing someone in the hospital on medication but here we go.

viewtopic.php?p=1078615#p1078615

This feels limp. Telling me that I know I'm scum is a null statement. Roxy's mirroring someone else's words on Delta flip flopping. It doesn't feel like real hunting to me. It feels like desperate clawing.

viewtopic.php?p=1078605#p1078605

This also feels limp. "I should have voted you" "You haven't proven to me you are town" etc.

It doesn't feel like t!Roxying thinking she's got a wolf in her sights. It feels like desperately trying to open the POE to include townies because wolves are in a box.

this feels like you are trying to *close* the POE bc wolves are probs not in it
And since you are so willing to vote Nook then just put blinders on and vote for me then wigly.
It feels like you are going for: Game over Baddies win - you are bad Jack.

This does not feel like Jack has a wolf in his sights it feels like a bJack who is becoming part of the POE and does not want any part of it.

I think this is very much a town Roxy post. Not just because I agree with her, but the tone of it.

She was right before Wilgy died, and she's especially right after Wilgy died. The POE that was being used was incorrect, and needed to be reconsidered.

And as Thunal said before she was NK, if Wilgy flips town, we need to reconsider the POE, and Jack. I am glad she made that legacy post.

Gotta go do dog stuff before the rain starts (here in NY it has rained every Saturday for 4, maybe 5? weeks. Ugh).

ah okay this is what you're getting at