Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:43 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:21 pm
I'll be bold and
[VOTE:
Delta] aubergine for that. It's not like my vote for pixxy is doing any good
I might have the best timing in the world
LMAO perhaps
What's your take on me right now, pyxxy? And what do you make of my reads?
\o/
a general fyi, but not a nag, when I catch up I generally start from the last post that I quoted and then read and quote along the way
but uh once I saw the red check I just wanted to see what would happened next
having read through, and going back to check the setup bc I like mech things i.e. max of 5 PRs, the claim seems completely reasonable to me
I kinda hate this instant reaction
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:11 pm
Well, I know I'm probably dead already. But I implore you that we at least focus on other stuff today. Y'all do realize that this day'll be a complete waste if I flip town (which I will)
I got to experience my first fake red during my last game on MU a few months ago and it was on a townie and it was absolutely not something to just try and move past. Granted in that situation it was rescinded a few hours later and it was done by a slanking scum on a town....but I'm drawing mostly on the town reaction experience here.
Later I probably want to review how quickly the votes piled up but given it's a weekend I could see scummates just be unavailable/offline and unable to work out a better mech counterargument than this:
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:48 pm
Here's a list of every possible scenario that I can think of:
* I am a hidden miller or just scum that didn't get the memo.
** However, this game is not bastard.
* There is a tailor
** But why would they target me when there are many other options more likely to get checked (Scotty, for instance)
* Abigail is pulling a Mikey, fakeclaiming Cop because they think there's no other way to get their scumread lynched
** But how would they be so confident of this after literally just arriving at the game
* Abigail is mafia trying to bait the CC
** Just why? Since the doctor was 2-shot, cop will likely be 2-shot as well and Abigail's slot was in no real danger
* Abigail is just intentionally throwing
** See no reason to count that out now
* Abigail is an independent — either a Jester trying to bait the CC/be exposed when I flip town or a Lyncher with me as the target
** But either of these don't exactly vibe with Dyslexicon's behavior D1. Well, aside from maybe the self-vote, but it was dropped
Why do I feel like I'm writing my own case?
I don't really know what counts as bastard and not bastard so would appreciate more than Nook chiming in on this:
So, mech thoughts. Let's take both players at face value first. Red check is real and leetic is town. That leaves redirection mech as the only explanation. If it was town mech I would have expected a claim by now, because a red is still a red in that case and it's probably worth leetic + redirecting the cop with someone else tomorrow night, just in case the cop has 3+ shots while the town redirector would die instead bc confirmed town. Would need to have 2+ shots of redirection, of course.
This is to say. If this is somehow what actually happened, the town redirector should claim.
But I think it's much much much more likely that the red is just a regular ol' red, or that scum has a redirection, and in the latter case I'm not going to hedge every red that comes up for that possibility. It's certainly possibly given we had a vig, but a red remains a red.
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mech aside, you (leetic) aren't really doing anything that screams town to me post-claim
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:46 am
This is probably the biggest town dumpster fire that I have ever been a part of
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:01 pm
People need to realize that a red check isn't a mechanical out, especially when there is no reason to clear the cop. This is at least the third fake redcheck on me that I have dealt with, and that's not counting fake redchecks on other people
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:15 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:13 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:12 pm
I'm still disappointed that few if any people are using any critical thinking on the supposed redcheck
Stop please.
Why? It would be anti-town to just let this mislynch happen, even if I am cursed with the knowledge that there is little if anything I can do to prevent it
Also didn't you say you would stop responding to me?
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:04 pm
I guess I expect players here to have some baseline competence. But that turned out to be my undoing
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:01 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:01 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:21 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:18 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:13 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:13 pm
Also, I think I surpassed my record for most posts in a single game! Not bad for a (likely) D2 mislynch
I'm a little way off my record :,) 1100 posts to beat \o/
Mine is about 1100 but I do not intend to ever do that again lol.
Well, at least one of you has to step it up (assuming you're town) since town is about to lose its most vocal poster
Excessive posting often does the opposite you want it to. Usually making content is good but when you flood the thread with posts it makes it harder for low posters to engage, not easier.
Not when you push said low posters to engage
leetic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:15 pm
If you do think I'm a wolf, then why am I still spewing?
What if you're in anti-spew?
My gut says that your scummates just weren't online (friday night, partying, etc) and you were already playing the high poster/working on town leader role so you had to react, you couldn't just try to be out of the thread and make a plan, and then you just kinda flailed under red check pressure.
Not committing to actually working through the mech feels pretty meh to me. Mech isn't for everyone but it's your only honest out here and instead deciding to gum up the thread with posts about how we suck at solving and that you can't believe we're buying a fake red just reads as anti-spew to me. I caught up entirely before coming to this conclusion just in case you were having a bad time but a bunch of these negative posts come after you sleep and return.
I'm just not feeling it.
[VOTE:
leetic] aubergine
I'm gonna go watch some football but I'll be online now and then
I'm fine to keep things going. I had a situation in my champs semifinal where I was redchecked as town and got collectively fucking barred from the thread and tunneled to death on my final day. It was weird. Wasnt a great experience. So I'd like to not repeat that, because even if leetic is mafia, it's worth continuing to talk \o/
