The Syndicate

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:55 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:29 am Hrm I can't vote in the poll but I can see it.

[VOTE: DeeZees] aubergine

That's what I'm doing

NEON WHAT, why would you do this so casually in locked LYLO?

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:46 pm Maybe it is who knows

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 3:51 am tbh wilgy i'm just paranoid after the last time you wolfed against me lol but I think what you've posted today was town so I'm trying very hard to not tinfoil myself but also like the poe is small and idk what i'm doing

idk what i'm doing maybe I'd be okay with just going neon tomorrow cuz idk how to sort her this game

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:50 am damn so we all just giving each other the bird and slamming our doors shut until tomorrow eh

feels kinda bad man

Ricochet wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:28 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:23 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:18 pm @Neon, why exactly are you voting me?

You are not gonna like the answer to that question lol.

I think it's important to have a counter wagon and will always advocate for such

Oh, a pleasure to see you. a pleasure indeed. I'd hoped to ask favour, when one of your ilk came along.

Might we at least counterwagon somebody I can myself vote on with any degree of confidence?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:18 pm @Neon, why exactly are you voting me?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:22 pm Further thoughts on Neon:
My back and forth on Neon gives me such pause. I remember after the Vivax ISO that there were things that made me want to go back to review the slot, but hell if I remember what gave me that impression.

Neon reading Porscha's AtE wolfy I mostly agree with, and Iawy pointing out that the frustration feels genuine I also agree with.

Neon's self vote however feels off to me. I thought Neon was very much a player that doesn't approve of that.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:36 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:02 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:09 am Rico a question, why did you wait until now to start playing? I tried to interact with you yesterday on your level by RP'ing even with my responses, and you ignored it. I did not expect you to be here and now you're coming in hot sans gimmick, and I have to question what made you wait so long?

I interpret the words of the fingers. The fingers tremble. Let their wisdom wash over you.

No incentive to play a 40-player, 24-day prelude to proper mafia.

Omg me too. Dont make me pocket you.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:02 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:09 am Rico a question, why did you wait until now to start playing? I tried to interact with you yesterday on your level by RP'ing even with my responses, and you ignored it. I did not expect you to be here and now you're coming in hot sans gimmick, and I have to question what made you wait so long?

I interpret the words of the fingers. The fingers tremble. Let their wisdom wash over you.

No incentive to play a 40-player, 24-day prelude to proper mafia.

DeeZees wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:29 pm Neon is fun myb town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:40 pm You guys it is so cold and my throat hurts so much who has the energy for scumhunting?

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:20 pm [VOTE: neon] aubergine

sheeping michelle

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:17 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:06 pm I physically can not solve this game.

It is impossible. I do not have the time or energy to solve an 8000 post game I missed the first half of

I do not have the time or energy to read ISOs where all the words are gonna blend together and mean nothing.

I do not have the desire or WiM to continue to care about a game that has upset me so greatly. But even if that weren't the case I quite literally can not solve this game.

Wolfy people should die. There are wolfier people than me like Schia. Jack as of today.

I'm removing pyxxy from my these people can die list

Adding Porscha cause I don't think the AtE was towny and frankly think the opposite

Never kill Lumi.

Why do you remove Pyxxy?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:11 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:56 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:53 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:38 pm i don’t really feel like iso’ing ender and suck at reading him anyway but if people who have read wanna kill him, sure ig

i feel like i always think he’s wolfy regardless of alignment and he gets mislunched all the time lately for whatever that’s worth, but i mean he could still be a wolf

Ok Hally is a wolf

Agreed that was a scummy post.
Weren‘t you supposed to be wolfsiding tho

@Michelle Good look for Hally or not worth much?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:03 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:53 pm I've come to the conclusion I'm gonna be held alive until limlo and than misexed

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

So probably just kill me now and glgl town. I think we lost a long time ago though.

100% serious self-votes are gamethrowing, idk what to tell you. This is neither ‘tiny’ nor ‘stupid’, but it definitely is ****, on that we readily agree

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:56 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:45 pm Sometime around the 400 or 500th time someone insulted my play this game I stopped caring lol.

Let me make this very clear, or everybody player or NPC who’s posted in this game, there’s nobody who understands your situation better than I do, as I’m the resident “gets pushed and beat up and scumread and not listened to for the tinest, most inane things” player basically every game that I play, and the ones where I seem to rise above that usually are because I have the wrong solve. I know what it is like to be constantly criticized for everything that you do in a game

So if you are no longer having fun with the game, irregardless of player status and/or alignment, then I am truly sorry. But ruining everybody else’s fun, if town, by blatantly gamethrowing through a move that you acknowledge would be gamethrowing as town, helps no one and hurts everyone, including yourself. You seem to would rather stubbornly steer right into the iceberg and sink, not just your own ship, but the entire town fleet, out of spite, while everybody is telling you to course-correct and more importantly how to course-correct

In all honestly I don’t see you being this stubborn as Mafia, because your survival instincts would prompt you to take the easy outs here. If you were entering anti-spew maybe, but you weren’t even getting pushed that hard, you’re not “outed” or anything like that, and the only other person who’s been a major contender today is Schia, and why would you fall on your sword and take the fall for a scumbuddy who isn’t even playing and will just get turbo’ed tomorrow if literally anybody else dies today?

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TL;DR for Hally - I understand probably better than everybody where you’re at rn if you’re town, and I’m sorry. But throwing the game and punishing everybody instead of taking charge over your situation and being the one to fight for yourself is going to be the thing that loses us the game, and the game is only lost right here, right now, the moment that you decide that it’s over

If you’re mafia, you’re in anti-spew, but I don’t understand how or why you’d be in anti-spew, so you’re probably not mafia, which makes it all the more important

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 1:23 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:45 pm Sometime around the 400 or 500th time someone insulted my play this game I stopped caring lol.

If one player insulted your play ftom your Pov and you insult the others by doing nothing, isn't this creating a mistrust loop in this game?

The playerslist of this game, everyone, gathered here to have fun. I am sure that was the idea for you as well. If you don't know already that mafia is an emotional game who makes people say stuff they shouldn't say and they wouldn't say IRL and if you want to create tension in the game because you feel the need to punish someone, maybe the purpose itself of this game is still unkown to you and that's sad

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:24 pm You want people to stop pushing you so that you can solve the game. The pushes have paused, and you’ve done nothing both before and especially after to solve. When specifically given the green light to do so, you outright refuse

And you either genuinely lack the self-awareness to understand that you are in this mess because of your inaction, or you’re purposefully playing it up to AtE people out of wanting to interact with your slot

Regardless, you cannot come into this game, do nothing, complain about other people not liking that you’re doing nothing, play the victim and tell people to stop complaining about you so you can do something, continue to do nothing once others stop complaining, and then straight-up refuse to do anything at all. That is actively, knowingly, and intentionally playing against town’s interests and town’s wincon, and that is not something or someone that can or should remain in the game

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:50 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:40 am

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:16 am Jack have you paid attention to any of my posts the last two days as I continually advocated for killing Schia and explained exactly why I think they’re a player?

Jack say something useful for the game, like for eg what's your Poe, or anything you can share

Lumi wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:09 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:05 pmHi Lumi

Hi Neon

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:51 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:03 pm

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:55 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:46 pm

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:59 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:15 am

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:57 am

I think if you are town you are gonna get misslynched eventually, might aswell get it over with it quicker. If you are scum its a W, i also dont remember anything pro-town or townie u've done this game so not like i seem much reason for u to *not* be scum

I'm not gonna lay over and die because my misexe is game losing.

And if you are all so blinded by my activity and can't look at my play and let me show you my town than that's on you not me.

Town has been wrong on people who were not participating being woofs *coughfalconcough* so like maybe work with me.

This quote here I think is a good example of the issues I have with Neon. The impetus is not on us to ‘let you show us your town’, that falls entirely upon you. The more you defend yourself instead of moving past it - and then blaming everybody else for you getting defensive as if it’s our fault that you’re staying in that space - the longer you delay this supposed revelation, which only causes people to scumread you harder and assumedly you also get even more defensive

Nah fam the impetus is on you to actually have an open mind and frankly nobody does and nothing I do will be good enough.

I'll defend myself all I want it's fucking bullshit that everyone is acting like defending yourself makes you less towny lol. You can kill me and flip another town and than blame me for it post game.

No, Mafia is an “everybody is guilty until proven innocent” game, and the only way you’re proven innocent is when you’re dead, mechanically confirmed, or the game ends. Everybody is a suspect, everybody gets pushed and poked and prodded, and everybody has to pull their own weight or they’re going to get more sus, more pushes, more pokes, and more prods

I don’t care that you defend yourself, we all do. But all you’ve done today so far is defend yourself and then complain that you’re being pushed. See beyond your own walls, take a step back, stop focusing on yourself and being indignant about being pushed at, and move yourself out of this corner you’re backed into

Like Hally said, there’s plenty that’s gone on just today, but there’s also plenty that’s gone on on the game in general. Look into literally anything and give your thoughts, who cares what anybody else thinks about you? If you’re town, what we think doesn’t matter, so move on, ignore the complaints, and change the prevailing winds

If you’re not town, by all means continue to dig this hole. You’ll be the one lying 6 feet under in it at EoD. The choice is yours

I disagree with this on so many levels

Good

Do something about it then

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:55 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:46 pm

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:59 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:15 am

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:57 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:54 am You've been wrong for 4 days so

I think if you are town you are gonna get misslynched eventually, might aswell get it over with it quicker. If you are scum its a W, i also dont remember anything pro-town or townie u've done this game so not like i seem much reason for u to *not* be scum

I'm not gonna lay over and die because my misexe is game losing.

And if you are all so blinded by my activity and can't look at my play and let me show you my town than that's on you not me.

Town has been wrong on people who were not participating being woofs *coughfalconcough* so like maybe work with me.

This quote here I think is a good example of the issues I have with Neon. The impetus is not on us to ‘let you show us your town’, that falls entirely upon you. The more you defend yourself instead of moving past it - and then blaming everybody else for you getting defensive as if it’s our fault that you’re staying in that space - the longer you delay this supposed revelation, which only causes people to scumread you harder and assumedly you also get even more defensive

Nah fam the impetus is on you to actually have an open mind and frankly nobody does and nothing I do will be good enough.

I'll defend myself all I want it's fucking bullshit that everyone is acting like defending yourself makes you less towny lol. You can kill me and flip another town and than blame me for it post game.

No, Mafia is an “everybody is guilty until proven innocent” game, and the only way you’re proven innocent is when you’re dead, mechanically confirmed, or the game ends. Everybody is a suspect, everybody gets pushed and poked and prodded, and everybody has to pull their own weight or they’re going to get more sus, more pushes, more pokes, and more prods

I don’t care that you defend yourself, we all do. But all you’ve done today so far is defend yourself and then complain that you’re being pushed. See beyond your own walls, take a step back, stop focusing on yourself and being indignant about being pushed at, and move yourself out of this corner you’re backed into

Like Hally said, there’s plenty that’s gone on just today, but there’s also plenty that’s gone on on the game in general. Look into literally anything and give your thoughts, who cares what anybody else thinks about you? If you’re town, what we think doesn’t matter, so move on, ignore the complaints, and change the prevailing winds

If you’re not town, by all means continue to dig this hole. You’ll be the one lying 6 feet under in it at EoD. The choice is yours

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:59 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:15 am

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:57 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:54 am You've been wrong for 4 days so

I think if you are town you are gonna get misslynched eventually, might aswell get it over with it quicker. If you are scum its a W, i also dont remember anything pro-town or townie u've done this game so not like i seem much reason for u to *not* be scum

I'm not gonna lay over and die because my misexe is game losing.

And if you are all so blinded by my activity and can't look at my play and let me show you my town than that's on you not me.

Town has been wrong on people who were not participating being woofs *coughfalconcough* so like maybe work with me.

This quote here I think is a good example of the issues I have with Neon. The impetus is not on us to ‘let you show us your town’, that falls entirely upon you. The more you defend yourself instead of moving past it - and then blaming everybody else for you getting defensive as if it’s our fault that you’re staying in that space - the longer you delay this supposed revelation, which only causes people to scumread you harder and assumedly you also get even more defensive

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:03 am [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

what if

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:11 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:45 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:38 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:34 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:52 am Until now you gave me your poe and now i'm expecting your reasons, Neon

Also Hally is your today first push but they're not in your Poe, why is that?

I don't think I ever voted them and I specifically said I didn't want to push them. But I'm gonna answer questions and I was asked them

My reason is that they aren't towny lol if you can help me see anything towny from those 4 I listed that'd be dope but my poe is not towny imo

It's your job to scum case them, all I need is your thought process

That is unfortunately not something I enjoy doing or believe I'm good enough to do. I'm not much of a scum case type of player especially in a game I can't read all of.

My thought process is that in every post I've read which I remember because I have a good memory at least. I can't remember ever being like oh hey this is towny like. And that's bad.

I can see towny from you. From Hally even at least sometimes. From Porscha. From IAWY.

But when I think about Pyxxy for instance all I see is info dumps with no progression towards a solve even on one player.

What's your take about Zeus?