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by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:06 pm
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Topic: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [END]
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:42 pm
Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 pm probably too town sided although fun tbh

double chops are extremely powerful for information.
Idk, from my pov, both mafia were in a PoE of ~3 or 4 from day 1. I don't think that's set up.

Also, the double kill became anti-town the moment Seanzie and Mac went at it.
Nah I am talking macro mafia balance not this one to be clear. Jjj knows I am coming from a not this game perspective.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

probably too town sided although fun tbh

double chops are extremely powerful for information.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:05 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

GG town.

Notes:

Day 1 EOD was not planned coordination, falcon was just the only town there lol

Day 2 EOD was not planned in any way, I was truthful that I would never have condoned that. I tried to keep a brave face after that, but it put a damper on me.

Other than that, not my best performance but at least I was a little more spirited day 3 compared to whatever I was doing day 1. Thank you for playing with me.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:50 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Or just turbo falcon and shrug at suboptimal town play that's also fine x)
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:49 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:42 pm Hm. Not completely sure.

If it's you it's simple as porscha/you/wilgy as wilgy has sus'd porscha and defended you
But if it is mac I expect the final 3 to be porscha/you/mac since wilgy thinks you are fine
if it is porscha I expect the same final 3
and if it is wilgy I expect porscha/you/wilgy since mac is just the best player available and also has shown growing annoyance to wilgy's game

I would have to weigh heavily my options at final 3 myself, but I will say wilgy trying to defend me today comes off as uber unpredatory and needless as wolf

mac would be tinfoil but he's also THAT guy.
if you are in f3 with one of these, keep this in mind along with wifom etc. You should have an extra later of 'hrm' with your inclinations posted today if you are chosen to survive to f3. Don't be reactionary, but at the same time be more skeptical than you were today x(
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:44 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:43 pm But no... that's for someone else in f3.

We have to solve between Achro and Falcon. And I'm going with Achro for a few reasons. Dead town sheep. TMI. But mostly because if Achro doesn't die here and I get killed I'm not confident he makes f3 very hard for whoever is there. I think town has a better chance to win an f3 without him in it. That's not me saying you'd vote bad btw achro I think you just win the game as mafia in f3.
I'm capable, falcon is my most likely solve as well so it's not the worst thing. Trying to become less sensitive to mislynchings so it's fine lol.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:42 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:41 pm Wilgy voting Porscha and leaving without assessing whether Porscha was even viable or anything is the height of terrible btw. I almost just wanna kill him for his terrible play here. All he's being cleared for is wifom.
terrible and townie though tbh
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:42 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Hm. Not completely sure.

If it's you it's simple as porscha/you/wilgy as wilgy has sus'd porscha and defended you
But if it is mac I expect the final 3 to be porscha/you/mac since wilgy thinks you are fine
if it is porscha I expect the same final 3
and if it is wilgy I expect porscha/you/wilgy since mac is just the best player available and also has shown growing annoyance to wilgy's game

I would have to weigh heavily my options at final 3 myself, but I will say wilgy trying to defend me today comes off as uber unpredatory and needless as wolf

mac would be tinfoil but he's also THAT guy.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:29 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

I am playing past today, falcon. It's a thing. I currently think you are scum but also if it is in f3 I am trying to give you good advice if you aren't.

Is this just a thing I do? See into multiple worlds and try to play optimally for both? Am I just weird? x(
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:28 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

There's basically two worlds I am living in right now, falcon. Porscha has signaled she will vote for me and I am dead

Either you are scum and hooray

Or you are town and f3 is probably going to end in a loss because you aren't providing anything to really dig into.

I don't think you posting more is going to suddenly make you obv town if you are a wolf, but in the world you are town it could help people see you as townier.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:23 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

like right now this game is heading towards achro -> turbo falcon

this is either good or bad for town

but bad for you either way

so

try to like say things? lol
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:22 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:21 pm
Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:13 pm
Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:22 pm @MacDougall @Porscha you around? Day ends in like 40 minutes

@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
My POE has more than just you inside it, and I've said as much.



I mean, it's not like there's been a lot of movement in your sus of my slot since I voted you, right?
You think its mac if not me? Do his mountain of sabi interactions not sway you? ;o
Are you trying to help me find more town?
well if you aren't it and I am going over today yes. Any solving you can do will help in f3. Like, you are kind of meat atm in f3 and if it is someone who isnt obvious you need to like, show your work.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:21 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:20 pm I'm going to vote achro here very begrudgingly just because I don't want to deal with him in f3. Sorry if wrong achro.
...

I can't think of anything appropriate to say and I have been staring at my lap for 30 seconds, so ok.
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:15 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:13 pm
Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:22 pm @MacDougall @Porscha you around? Day ends in like 40 minutes

@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
My POE has more than just you inside it, and I've said as much.



I mean, it's not like there's been a lot of movement in your sus of my slot since I voted you, right?
You think its mac if not me? Do his mountain of sabi interactions not sway you? ;o
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:37 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Also @Porscha any thoughts on the sabi quotes wilgy pulled up about me?
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:31 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Porscha wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:30 pm I think I'm of the opinion its probs achro and he try to pocket me against wilgy
He literally asked people to iso you x(
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:30 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Oh, I thought this started the same time as day 1. My bad.

Hello Porscha. Got any questions for me? ;o
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:22 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

@MacDougall @Porscha you around? Day ends in like 40 minutes

@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:15 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

oh I thought my sentence got deleted but it got transported on top of the quotes. lol
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:14 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

These series of interactions feel like Porscha is trying to solve sabi tbh
Porscha wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:53 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:51 pm I think maybe Porscha is town for the same reason Falcon is town. Seem more active compared to past games but unlike Falcon Porscha is solving. I'm more confident that Porscha might be town more than Falcon.

Achro seems off tho.
honestly I just have some free time (while also sober. rare treat) and if you're lucky falcon will attempt to solve day 2. extra special treat

why achro off besides volume tell?
Porscha wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:57 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:52 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:51 pm I think maybe Porscha is town for the same reason Falcon is town. Seem more active compared to past games but unlike Falcon Porscha is solving. I'm more confident that Porscha might be town more than Falcon.

Achro seems off tho.
Posted too early. Achro is trying too hard to sheep vs leading this early into the game. Not enough ego posting.
I think his posts implicitly has enough ego and idk.............................. I don't think he feels too sheep considering his IRL stuff going on

but if it's achro/mac power wolf power couple, then consider me entertained
Porscha wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:59 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:53 pm Sean, I can't read him.

Mac, has not been towny so he's on the lower side of null atm.
I can do the first part for you. just hold my hand

ok question: if you weren't a part of mac's 2-man solve, would you still find his play nontown? do you think his argument with lucy on her play has merit?
These feel uninformed of Sabi's alignment and genuinely trying to help them solve the game tbh @DrWilgy
by Achromatic
Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:37 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

I would have to consider 3 very big tinfoils today over "oh, it's just falcon okay."

If it isn't falcon I'd be looking at isos with a much more critical eye than I want to right now because my brain has a filter of 'it's probably just falcon' which makes it really difficult for me to be as critical as I need to be.

If I tinfoil all day I'll just get a headache tbh.

If Falcon is town I don't think there is any shot he survives any F3 combination tbh. He has shown no progression at all in solving, and has very little going for him. I don't know if I could convince the other town at that point but I could try.

@MacDougall I did ask for previous scum experience for a reason though because I had in mind the one path you could be scum despite thinking it's 'probably' nothing in terms of equity in my mind. Day 1 I tunneled lucy and I thought you had good interactions with her if she was wolf and I opened today with a vague memory of you being suspicious before you did slam poetry jam of quotes where it turned it into "okay so this would be tinfoil mac is pro gaming" levels of theater, which you are capable of but more likely it's, as said above, just falcon lol
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:33 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

(I would have preferred to have posts handy to ask both wilgy and falcon these questions you see)
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:32 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:30 pm
Achromatic wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:11 pm
Porscha wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:05 pm
Porscha wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:46 pm

Falcon there are 5 people and like at any given moment at least 2 people, if not 3, are not in a players POE. Like in what universe does achro tinfoil me and mac over you and wilgy rn
Well, he had Wilgy and I as TR earlier, and there's only 5 players, which means necessarily Mac was his tinfoil yesterday. I guess in this universe. The very one we live in right now.
Fixed
what's your solve right now
Archo, Wilgy


I am having trouble seeing you as Maf here, and Mac has done some towny stuff as of late IMO
What about porscha specifically is making her town to you?
Porscha's solve energy, and the direct contrast to her scum game I just played with her
Point out a few posts that has uncharacteristic solve energy for her?
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:31 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Porscha wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:24 pm
Achromatic wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:00 pm Appeal to Emotion there would be 'you will be sorry you lynched me!' As an example.

Mac didn't think he was above showing how obv town he was but I guess expecting you to find some post is beyond you. Lol. Speaks more about you than me as a player but pop off.
"you'll feel bad for not doing what I asked you to if we lose" is an appeal to emotion imo and while I don't really care that you used it, I do pretty much believe you're better off using your solving somewhere else unless there is something you saw that really makes you second guess my alignment. in which case please let me know. but up until now you have not called me anything other than town
Real talk I was going to use your contributions to ask wilgy and falcon questions about you to check their perspective because I am not at my computer rest of day and it is hard to iso. It wasn't really about you x(

I didn't want to give that away as falcon and wilgy content is at a premium lol
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:01 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:11 pm
Porscha wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:06 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:05 pm
Porscha wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:01 am
Achromatic wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:38 pm Your day 1 talks about Sabi are pretty sus, and atp I have various degrees of reasons to like everyone else.

I think team of sabi/falcon day 1 let's me die
Porscha is coming off completely different from their last scum game
Wilgy felt super genuine reacting to the quickness of the hammer
Interesting. Wilgy & I went from TR's to your only SRs. Rather quickly
Falcon there are 5 people and like at any given moment at least 2 people, if not 3, are not in a players POE. Like in what universe does achro tinfoil me and mac over you and wilgy rn
Well, he had Wilgy and I as TR earlier, and there's only 5 players, which means necessarily Mac was his tinfoil yesterday. I guess in this universe. The very one we live in right now.
Fixed
what's your solve right now
Archo, Wilgy


I am having trouble seeing you as Maf here, and Mac has done some towny stuff as of late IMO
What about porscha specifically is making her town to you?
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:00 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Appeal to Emotion there would be 'you will be sorry you lynched me!' As an example.

Mac didn't think he was above showing how obv town he was but I guess expecting you to find some post is beyond you. Lol. Speaks more about you than me as a player but pop off.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:56 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Porscha wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:03 pm I will not feel bad for not going back and pointing how i'm obvious towning so let me stop you there mr. ate
Appeal to Emotion is is a fallacy employed in a logical argument. If you are going to use the term try to have the dignity to use it correctly and maybe be a bit less pompous and grating ms above it all.

But alright.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:58 pm
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Porscha wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:43 pm
Achromatic wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:28 am @Porscha

Can you go through your ISO and pick out some interactions you personally feel town clear you?

@DrWilgy

Same thing for you please. What are the moments of this game that go 'Yeah, if people lynch me after seeing THIS they are out of their minds."
Now why would you ask me to do unnecessary work when I always just so sleepy
I'm not gonna look right now tbh even tho it's a good exercise for me but I'm laying in bed soooo idk just think back on how I was accidentally so townie Lucy's scumdar gave me the middle finger

Because while I dont think it is you it is healthy for just in case reasons that everyone alive now be here to judge your efforts in case my solve is wrong in falcon or you guys lynch me.

Also while I appreciate a good 'I don't wanna nyah' if we lose this game because of it you arw going to feel bad.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:07 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

I thought Mac was sus and then Mac went and showed me more unaligned posts with sabi than you have posts total this game with solving of any form.

Sorry not sorry for re evaluating.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:10 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:09 am Lol it's not the same cuz it's day 3 in a tiny mountainous game. Lylo was day 6 there.

Also I was just basking in my own glory like a douchebag.
Yes, obviously.

To both sentences.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:07 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:03 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue May 15, 2018 8:51 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue May 15, 2018 8:31 pm I doubt a stronger presence from me would have done us any difference.

But hey, glad I was at least right about DDL in the end... Ever the smallest consolation.



Great job mafia. This just might go down as baddie performance of the year. :beer:
I dunno bout that man. You were easy for us to push as a bad guy and it is very necessary for bad guys to have civs like that to point at that look more bad than you do.

Civs just gotta be more civ tbh.

So my intention was to win this game with both Epignosis and Jay at the end game just to see if we could. Sadly Epignosis was killed by a civ vig. The methodology I personally used this game was relatively simple. I just buddied Jay and pointed out all the bad civ play that I could and dismissed bad civ case making (even when the bad civ case making was accurate, like when I defended Wolbre). DDL and I did some very soft distancing. The main reason the civs lost this game is because:

1. Failure to lynch one of us quick enough to utilise a scum flip for clues (though it's arguable it would have helped as we didn't look very team compatible anyway).
2. Epignosis and Jay were too preoccupied in the early game with their endless dick swinging match to actually use their skills to find actual bad guys. Even my presence wasn't enough to get them to turn their eye at me instead of each other.
3. You didn't policy lynch me or vig me. Which if I was not me, I would have done on the day that Dom got lynched. I really shouldn't be left around until end game. There are certain players that should be dealt with as though they are too dangerous as scum to leave alone even if they look civ and the meta here doesn't deal with us ruthlessly enough. I am not suggesting day 1 policy lynch but if the decision is between taking a wild stab in the dark that a complete lurker like Dom or Pennywise is bad or taking a shot at Jay or myself, we are the better lynch every time. Civs have and will continue to win many games when us forceful types are removed in the early game, but if you leave us alive until the late game and we are Mafia it's foolishness.
4. Nobody ever really tried to read DDL until it was too late and when they did (Nova), we just silenced him on the critical day.
5. Too many civs disappeared entirely. Jay was right that the game was over days ago.

Every silence was actually thought through and made sense in the context of the day. Believing it to be the results of a random firing helped us immensely. I would not use that game mechanic in the future because it's really quite a nice way for scum to wifom the fuck out of useless night actions.

As for the sig kill. I chose to kill sig because I think he is a good player. He reads the game with his instinct rather than cold calculations and I cannot account for that. I would choose to go up against Jay over sig every time. Sig is a dangerous vig and he tinfoils at the drop of a hat. He makes unpredictable reads that are very often accurate. He gets mislynched so often because he plays the civ game with a reckless abandon that I think makes him a great civ. He was the most likely player in this game to remove me personally from it so he died.
Lol I'm such an asshole.
"Kill me before LYLO I am too dangerous"

Yet, does not roll over instantly here.

CURIOUS.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:02 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:57 am I've played many games with Falcon. I am generally a good reader of Falcon as per his comment that you quoted.

He didn't contribute much at all. He is capable of some good shit but very rarely does much as either alignment these days. He usually just can be read by whether he's making shit up or actually believes what he's saying lol.
So scum meta this game, got it.

Okay so here's the plan.

We vote Falcon today, we win, and then in post game you brag that I only wasn't mislynched a second time in two games on here because you woke me the fuck up and if it wasn't for the hand of mac, the Mafia God, Achromatic would be nothing and I should praise you or whatever cool thing we do after a win on this place.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:47 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:42 am https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=1584

This is probs my favourite scum win but it wasn't a solo endgame. We mostly swept. I did powerwolf to a degree where I was largely able to snow Jay though which is the real reason I'm posting this.
I am seeing all green names on the dead did you actually literally sweep lol

Also since you have wolved with falcon I assume you have played a town game with him? Is their solving usually non existent as town? Are they polarized? I know hydra is a bit different than partnered wolfing but did he contribute?
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:42 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Anyway the Mac tinfoil case is clear even if it is tinfoil as I alluded to above: Partner interactions are actually unironically the easiest thing in the world to fake for a skilled mafia member. At first I thought this was completely invalid because 'why does sabi self vote there before mac can just come shield them' but then I also remembered that Sabi will do what Sabi wants.

But if this is the case then it probably invalidates itself simply because I believe Sabi whining about both their day 2 wagon and their day 1 wagon indicates both are pure.

Also I have not played a good enough game to fight this dragon so I will take the blame if Mac eats us here.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:30 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

@MacDougall

Hey, can you find me a really famous scum win by you on here if you wouldn't mind? Like, one where you were say town cleared based off of interactions with your wolf partners day 1 and then used that as a club to dominate a town by leading the conversation through charisma and force of will all the while doing very cool and pro town things like "don't hammer anyone!"

If any of those things exist.

Thank you.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:28 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

@Porscha

Can you go through your ISO and pick out some interactions you personally feel town clear you?

@DrWilgy

Same thing for you please. What are the moments of this game that go 'Yeah, if people lynch me after seeing THIS they are out of their minds."
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:24 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:34 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:32 am @falcon45ca why am in your POE exactly?
You're typically much better at reading me, the NKs make sense from you, and pushing my lynch for a hammer this RD? I'm an easy mislynch, as you know
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:41 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:38 am
falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:34 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:32 am @falcon45ca why am in your POE exactly?
You're typically much better at reading me, the NKs make sense from you, and pushing my lynch for a hammer this RD? I'm an easy mislynch, as you know
How do the NKs make sense from me? Both of them were townreading me. NAA specifically said he was gonna take me to f3. I was Alison's top town.

Also no I haven't, I've been blocking the hammer.
I think I recall a post of yours earlier about just yeeting me this RD and getting it over with, but perhaps I'm mistaken.


Maf kill town who TR them all the time, and Alison given enough time certainly is a threat to Maf Mac.



Why is my sus of your slot so implausible?

Hi @falcon45ca so in your suspicion of Mac you said the NKs make sense for him. But under the clever solving technique of "sometimes wolves kill people who TR them" then don't all kills fit Mac? So any kill, using your logic, would fit Mac. Or Me. Or... you. Correct? If they suspect Mac, it fits. But also if they don't suspect Mac, it equally Fits.

Please walk me through how you expect to find wolves with this solving process, thank you.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:20 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Also I had four posts day 2 and one sentence devoted to Falcon which was basically "I thought Sabi was worse than Falcon EOD1" just dressed up in my usual performative fancy talk of calling him a good lad. This made him go from feeling good about me to apparently being totally okay with torpedoing me today.

After day 1 where at EOD1 I pointed out that Falcon was on me all day without asking me any questions then when called out on this he decided to sheep me and now here we are again, with a flimsy excuse to vote for me and then he smoke bombs away

Falcon, can you cite some town games of yours where voting for someone all day with 0 attempts to interact or solve them not initiated by the person has netted you scum?
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:13 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:12 am Aight well I don't want any hammers til I hear in depth from Wilgy and Falcon.
Thank you for demanding more from me btw, that is how mafia should be played. Sorry I am not at the peak of my powers this game. You didn't do anything wrong, not that you need me to tell you this.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:07 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Achromatic wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:06 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:04 am and the conclusion is?
NAA is town
Porscha is town
Mac is town
Achromatic is town

Falcon is ???
Wilgy is ???

Also should slot seanzie in there at the top but whatever
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:06 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:04 am and the conclusion is?
NAA is town
Porscha is town
Mac is town
Achromatic is town

Falcon is ???
Wilgy is ???
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:05 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Achromatic wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:54 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine

Falcon was a good lad and helped me out. Find it hard to believe sabi actually sheeped mac who does that tbh.


This, by the way. Good vote. I have a light tone but a clear thinking process here. Sabi and you were like oil and water in ASMR. I read back and was like 'well that makes no sense' and placed a vote. Probably the best vote on Sabi day 2 tbh
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:01 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Anyway Achro is a sad boy but Achro is still a smart boy.

So anyway you have your story, here's mine with Sabi: They are too emotional and it is going to win town the game.

Day 1 they whined about being voted. The votes were you, seanzie, and me

Day 2 they ... super whined about being voted, let's say. The votes were Porscha, NAA, and me

Sabi didn't have a master plan, Sabi didn't have Wolf Achro for council, Sabi didn't self vote to plot an evil scheme to take over the world.

Sabi got frustrated that town was voting for them and Sabi got upset.

Reminds me of Hectic from my champs game this year with a post that honestly I should have buried him for day 1 instead of day 2. I would have been in a nice semifinal if I had done that tbh.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:55 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Achromatic wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:54 am Sure let me see my iso, maybe the day 1 I didn't read has something cool for me.
this was a mental typo, I meant my own day 1 iso and my read I mean remember x)
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:54 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

Sure let me see my iso, maybe the day 1 I didn't read has something cool for me.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:52 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

It's more than one sadly, two mislynches in about a week when I hadn't been mislynched in many years so I'm a little more dead inside right now. I'm here too man. I can't live up to whatever expectation you have right now, I can just do my best to solve. I like my vote. I started the game exhausted, I was ready to play day 2, and now I am here and it's just like day 1 is a fog and day 2 didn't happen and I am just like okay I am here what the fuck happened to this game in my head, you know?

It's like... ergh you know? Sorry this isn't doing it for you, really. I am doing my best right now and it isn't my best work but I've given my reads.
by Achromatic
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:49 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:47 am
Achromatic wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:43 am
MacDougall wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:42 am No you bury the wolf here you don't take the fact that there are two other viable names and use it as a basis for trying to get yourself out of the POE. Bad Achro.
Sorry that I don't know which one of 'did nothing' and 'did nothing but also has theater' is the obvious wolf let me go back to mafia school with Mac who will teach me the expert reads. Neither has any meaningful Sabi interaction in their favor. I like my vote because wilgy defended me a little today and did theater but it ain't much.

That sorry was sarcastic to be clear x)
I already pointed out how you and Sabi both manipulated Falcon into voting Seanzie/Lucy. That's heaps in his favour.

I just can't reconcile you as town when you react to a request to bury the wolf with this trash. Like you don't have any skill or tactics to interrogate and figure it out from this point forward. They are here. Talk to them. Figure out which one is the wolf. Why do I need to tell you how to be town?
There's nothing to bury. There's almost nothing there. It's PoE. You and Porscha are great. They aren't. Not every game is about burying the wolf sometimes its about finding the town, and I found the two town I need to find and honestly wilgy is probably fine too.

Sorry this isn't exciting.

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