The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:44 pm You can win as town when you're dead, right? So what's the issue? Wasted time??

glory.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:34 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:29 pm look long con, i understand why these are your thoughts, they make sense

i know i'm town, i know you and wwa are town regardless of mech. i've been reevaluating the both of you consistently but it's always been town. there's not a wolf good enough in the entire game of mafia to have the w alignment and play like wwa here

i know i'm town, and i know nook is town based off mech last cycle and it'll take no logic to make the same assertion next cycle

so

robyn/wwa/nook/long con -> end game with any of these 4 alive and that's simply a win

i understand being extra cautious but i just don't think that it's necessary
Probably not, I completely agree.

But how can I risk it?

i won't bother giving you an argument here

not even like blah blah blah plenty of reasons in my iso to townread me

or anything like that

my argument is that nook is alive so you have no choice.

if i have to convince you which might also be necessary i strongly advise you to read my iso and play and realize 3 dead mafia and my play simply couldn't happen had i been scum. there are 2 even stronger reasons why i'm town in my iso though

look long con, i understand why these are your thoughts, they make sense

i know i'm town, i know you and wwa are town regardless of mech. i've been reevaluating the both of you consistently but it's always been town. there's not a wolf good enough in the entire game of mafia to have the w alignment and play like wwa here

i know i'm town, and i know nook is town based off mech last cycle and it'll take no logic to make the same assertion next cycle

so

robyn/wwa/nook/long con -> end game with any of these 4 alive and that's simply a win

i understand being extra cautious but i just don't think that it's necessary

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:19 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:18 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pm

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.
To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.
on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
No.
Yeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.

You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.

You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.

If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.
Either of them could be an Independent who does not kill.
You know a non-killing 3p can just win with town, right?

not in this uwu

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:14 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:01 pm But there was no nightkill
You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.
To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.
on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz
No.

well too bad because the person with the 3 ghost votes trusts me on this, so you’ll have to be more convincing in your sus of me at the very least

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:13 pm Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action

ender pushed bereft, aka locktown bereft, aka abbie threw hard

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:09 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:07 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:01 pm But there was no nightkill
You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!
Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.
To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:11 am i only know one man venal enough to chop wigly there that isn't ender himself, his name is nook. i think that makes nook v though, i just think it's easy to think they're partnered but they aren't

i don't think bereft is scum and i think entire team is dead after ender dies and we've figured out that the voting ability was nook

i think ender's side of nook/ender interactions look bad and pockety and nook being more independent and outspoken than a gay teenager (moi)

i think we just chop ender, f4 where sleep happens and vote sleep after the f4 ends with confidence if someone isn't nked, otherwise i'll have to check with rondo what happens in a situation where 2 townies are alive @RondoDimBuckle

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:35 am I think I'm actually ok with just following Robyn's lead tomorrow

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:05 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:03 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:01 pm But there was no nightkill
You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)
That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

he said he’d sheep me, and i outlined the “kill ender end game” plan like 12h ago

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:57 pm Ender is a wolf, isn't he? Didn't Boq die to give us that info?

if u read where this happened you’d find a very blatant action which makes me town in all worlds

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:01 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:00 pm And Nook controls the extra votes?
No idea about that
I thought we thought it was ender yesterday

i literally figured out that it was nook in thread and nook not saying if he thought it was ender or not was literally outing for him because he was carefully avoiding not confirming any mech inoffensive

boq was something which confirmed that ender carried the nk and not me, and he was testing who everyone thought was last to see who was wolfsiding and who wasn’t

a very simple argument for one town, specifically nook town, in nook/ender town is that they’d both hold votes until the very end and nook could’ve just sheeped me but accumulated him + ender + 3 votes into a game over vote and have won quite easily

uhhh nook man is still alive though hmmmmm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:45 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:27 pm Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic
I don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.

won’t the game be called if sub 3 people alive

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:19 pm Kill Ender. Kill Robyn. End game. That's the plan.

kill ender then end the game, lucky for me you’ve been wrong about everything for 3 cycles straight and have lost all credibility whereas i’ve been ahead of everything

furthermore it’s literally game throwing to not be townreading me right now, you should be townreading me right here and the fact you aren’t is alarming and further destroys your credibility

f4 and game isn’t dead so 3 dead mafia lol, and i refuse to believe that both lily and brad were town

why didn’t she fucking kill ender

what the fuck

i only know one man venal enough to chop wigly there that isn't ender himself, his name is nook. i think that makes nook v though, i just think it's easy to think they're partnered but they aren't

i don't think bereft is scum and i think entire team is dead after ender dies and we've figured out that the voting ability was nook

i think ender's side of nook/ender interactions look bad and pockety and nook being more independent and outspoken than a gay teenager (moi)

i think we just chop ender, f4 where sleep happens and vote sleep after the f4 ends with confidence if someone isn't nked, otherwise i'll have to check with rondo what happens in a situation where 2 townies are alive @RondoDimBuckle

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:55 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:33 am nook do you think those 3 votes were good or bad? by a town or by a mafia?

and in your opinion do you think killing wigly was pro town here instead of ender? from your point of view and purely objective
I also want to discuss this
Need to look at who voted again but since wolves likely didn't have TMI that there was a 3p, they probably would've thought Wilgy was LHF town
Off the top of my head, if Ender is scum then the Wilgy wagon probably had a wolf on it
If Ender is town, then wolves didn't care where they spread their votes

ender is scum, i'm sorting nook, i've had all your thoughts and some thoughts of my own, for when you try to figure out what i'm doing

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:50 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:47 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:43 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:33 am nook do you think those 3 votes were good or bad? by a town or by a mafia?

and in your opinion do you think killing wigly was pro town here instead of ender? from your point of view and purely objective
Guessing town

I mean yes obviously I think it's good that wilgy died over ender lol, that was my preference
so you think ender wasn't the one that wielded that ability?
Idk if he was or not and don't find it particularly relevant

just tell me nook, do you believe that ender used the ability? yes or no

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:43 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:33 am nook do you think those 3 votes were good or bad? by a town or by a mafia?

and in your opinion do you think killing wigly was pro town here instead of ender? from your point of view and purely objective
Guessing town

I mean yes obviously I think it's good that wilgy died over ender lol, that was my preference

so you think ender wasn't the one that wielded that ability?

purely subjective*

nook do you think those 3 votes were good or bad? by a town or by a mafia?

and in your opinion do you think killing wigly was pro town here instead of ender? from your point of view and purely objective

abbie just ftr there are 6 left alive, 18 alive at start means 4 wolves, meaning 2 wolves have died minimum or the game would’ve ended. reevaluate me now thanks

what the fuck

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:17 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:16 am That's it. Thems my thoughts.

I think D3 EoD and SVS Legacy out a lot of the game pieces in a solvable state.
wowee we have the exact same thoughts

wait until abbie and long con vote u after me!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:16 am That's it. Thems my thoughts.

I think D3 EoD and SVS Legacy out a lot of the game pieces in a solvable state.

wowee we have the exact same thoughts

patiently awaiting ur read on me wigly

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:44 pm Gamestate thoughts, probably will spread these over a few posts to get my sweet number up.

WWA and LC are town cleared based on SVS Legacy.

Inclined to believe the legacy based on SVS's play. The only detractor from this being true is if the team is LC/SVS as the WWA/SVS interactions I detailed above don't exist for LC/SVS.
SVS/WWA are not W/W and SVS gave the clear to WWA
LC/SVS can be W/W and SVS gave the clear to LC.

These both are just stipulations and I don't think to be true. If SVS's legacy is actually a fabrication then I just kinda lose to it.

lc isn’t a wolf, he’s not been doing anything for the past couple cycles and is riding on the fact i’m mafia. since i’m not then lc kinda has 0 standing in thread (as he does now)

@Bereft vote ender

i'd vote ender, i suspected him for his readslist where the list looked like nonsense

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:46 pm Hammer Day 2 after first 1 hour on plurality +1

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:24 pm I'm confused, wtf happened while I was out
I see people voting ender and boq is dead
Which is pretty unfortunate, bleh
Should I vote yet? I'm going to sleep, I just got home and I'm exhausted but I don't want to not vote. If you don't want me to hammer I'll stick a vote on someone else who isn't a wagon just so I don't face any consequences.

vote ender or don't vote

to literally anything that i've done

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:50 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:39 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:35 am
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:47 am there's also the fact that every chop has been my call
nah
not lime coke tbh

idk why you wanna brag about this though lmao.
how else do i tilt abbie and long con
Do you want me to let you know if you are successful at any point?

if you don't tr me now then you aren't paying attention

what’s your current read on me long con?

bereft is 100% town, in all worlds, he is never to be killed

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

kill ender -> wigly -> maybe nook -> end game

then again if there's no nk tomorrow it might be worth pressing that option...

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:55 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:55 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:52 am Wtf is this vote option

"We got them all already, we won"
It's how we win. Once we think we've voted wolves out. We don't just auto-win when wolves are dead.
What the fuck

there's no way rondo is that troll

bets that abbie and long con still vote me?

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:40 am It is difficult when so little can be discussed. I feel like hadn't could as well be mountainous. This sorta forces me to go on a spin with what happened, and if I am wrong then am sorry tbh

i saw that instantly but i thought you had no relevant info, i pointed it out immediately risking my own life in the process once i realized u had something

something something fmpov

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:36 amAm scared

me too.

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:35 am [VOTE: Ender] aubergine

your top sr?

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:47 am At the same time, I know you did not carry the NK.

you already revealed info, you're committed, speak up fast boq, no playing games when ur at extreme risk

boq you animal

oh wait fuck

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