The Syndicate

@Porscha read on stick/me?

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:18 amyou

you still haven't read me as anything but null?

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:20 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:14 am
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:09 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:46 am I've caught up.

Someone let me know if we are voting Stick/LC or Delta.

Tyvm.

Gn.
if wilgy's mafia this is 3 town BTW ^
but do you believe that he's scum?
not atm cuz he's playing absurdly different to what ive seen w!wilgy play like @Delta he really isnt playing the same as the reunion game right?

wilgy almost seemed...afraid to be vocal that game. it's possible he's just more comfortable on the syndicate

viewtopic.php?p=1066456#p1066456

i've only heard that he's a good wolf, and i've seen it, timelines mafia that just ended he was also a wolf

but activity wise and comfort just isn't valid

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:09 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:46 am I've caught up.

Someone let me know if we are voting Stick/LC or Delta.

Tyvm.

Gn.
if wilgy's mafia this is 3 town BTW ^

but do you believe that he's scum?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:00 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:56 am everyone has LC in poe and i literally read the entire thread yesterday and i don't recall a single LC post, i ought to put him in poe

also this is premature but i am very inclined to just take delta as town and start pushing an active player [stick, wigly]
Why Delta town (in 300 words or less)?

i'll give you 3

suits my worldview

(also expect him to be towny and so far he has been, i played a game with him as wolf and he completely flaked)

if that's long con's scum game i'm disappointed

i really wanted to vote wigly

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

but this iso is just disgusting and is probably a hit

everyone has LC in poe and i literally read the entire thread yesterday and i don't recall a single LC post, i ought to put him in poe

also this is premature but i am very inclined to just take delta as town and start pushing an active player [stick, wigly]

@Delta when are you gonna read up/have reads?

@Stick your main poe is LC/baker?

i feel like a 300 word post would've been better but i was in the zone

idk why i'm so wordy, usually i never wallpost, apologies

baker read:

beginning with baker's iso he's comfortable in the thread, making jokes and saying things that come to mind, and he likes playing with his friend martin who is someone he knows (as he doesn't know anyone else in this lobby i'm fairly sure). and he decides to sheep me off a vague read because i am presumably town and he's self aware that if martin is a wolf martin is fairly capable of tricking him. if he was mafia i feel like he'd just give martin his vote as a show of good faith or something. because he'd be being cautious of martin and trying to appeal to him. instead he's comfortable with him and not trying to appeal to him at all. which just read as towny to me

next he called out scotty's suspicion of baker, as calling himself lhf, with self righteousness. i don't feel like baker is the kind of wolf to get aggressive immediately and instead he would try to negotiate or townread. and if he was a wolf he’d probably drop his suspicion very quickly or not try to make it a full on issue with multiple follow up posts

i really liked p304, after identifying himself as lhf he criticizes scotty of pushing another lhf (abbie) and post times make it 10 minutes later from the first scotty criticism, which i find towny because it’s a live catch up where he’s pushing the person for what he finds as a valid reason (pushing lhf). and he points out that scotty’s question was a suggestion look into abbie, as in go after lhf. and like he can say that it’s bad and all and that’s standard but the fact that he said appealing to martin mean’s he’s considering and worldbuilding (abbie, scotty, and martin’s) alignments in like 50 words

his next post 4 minutes later further builds off it and townreads wigly for that exact reason, p#305 is solving and determining alignments that’s genuine because there’s no making friends with wigly or anything. he’s alienating scotty (who is now more likely to vote him). and he’s building off other people’s alignments and just solving around the single thing that he noticed. he’s also building off the d1 wagonomics which multiple players have commented that abbie was probably scum due to nobody going on her wagon, again solving multiple slots and giving thoughts gth. like i simply do not agree with anyone calling baker omgus’ing or anything, there’s depth of thought here

then he basically asks others what their scotty read was (which is again the opposite of an omgus), something something trying to solve his alignment and this isn’t directly targeting or appealing to anyone. it just feels like he believes that scotty is a wolf and is pushing it for the past 4-5 posts, where he’s solving under that assumption

don’t get me wrong, seeing one person and calling them lockwolf and solving around it is a very tunnel-y way of playing mafia which doesn’t actually result in many posts (believe me) but these horribly wrong players who are completely wrong usually end up being town. and i’m also thinking that scotty is just town like mr/stick/wigly. there’s just a density that you only have as town and these players are fairly one dimensional as town

baker follows up and explains his scumread of abbie (i’m fairly sure with original reasoning that is copied multiple times but don’t quote me)

p#407 is baker being upset that his reads are being misrepresented. and this is reactionary and not performatively. don’t get me wrong his read is an omgus but there’s nonetheless more thought in the omgus than i’d expect from a mafia and instead of changing his strategy or anything like a logical explanation he’s just frustrated because to him his accurate (probably not) reads have been misinterpreted and discounted. like i don’t think this guy can fake that depth and train of thought. everything adds up and if he was a line he’d be linear and not a polynomial, which is easy to follow

p#478 he goes on to townread mr for his treatment of scotty/himself and like i just find this post stupid towny. and he’s continuing to sort the game 8h later off his single scumread on scotty and worldbuilding off that. it’s the fact that he saw one thing and is attempting to solve the entire game based off that one thing to be towny and genuine. he just visibly lacks tmi i feel like although this can’t quite be phrased

p#583 i feel like after a bit baker realizing that his small scotty tunnel being wrong was extremely towny, like instead of doubling down he admits he might have overreacted and that scotty looks better. as a wolf you turn up the omgus you don’t sit like a duck with no thoughts and

demean your entire worldview (that was made based off one scotty read basically) and if you do you’re about to pull up some reads out of thin air. also in this post and the post after he’s just okay being chopped, in a nonchalant way, which is just the opposite of how he played at the start

think about the two emotional displays he’s expressed already, opposites and both for actually valid reasons. i feel like he’s reading what he can of the game and offers to get chopped more readily due to the fact that he’s lost. which is just the antithesis of what any subpar wolf does. a subpar wolf, even a decent wolf, reeks of tmi. and baker does not

he posts self meta wanting people to read it, assuming it’ll clear him. and posts a full readslist, and admits to not having a confident scumread on anyone

jesus fuck that sequence was absurdly towny, p#596, p#605, p#606. like these are very easy thought processes to follow and they’re not the thought processes of a wolf who wants to omgus the anyone who wants to suspect him. instead he accepted the fact that people found him to be scummy and posted self meta and reads and admitted to not having a strong scum case. i’ve done this entire sequence myself before in games and i’ve seen it before. it’s always towny because a wolf thinks about v different things

p#786 is towny, pure reads with the lingering suspicion of scotty and a new suspicion of stick. martin fell into this trap this game too. thinking that champs finals players are gods or something and have the full responsibility of solving a game. and they don’t but again he feels immortal and he’s not thinking about the repercussions or viabilities of his pushes. neither scotty nor stick would ever go over due to baker. as wolf long term and short term that’s just suicidal, what the fuck is the mafia plan? i don’t see any. and stick is honestly a fair suspicion

in conclusion i am once again very confident that baker is town. i can track his thought processes very well and all of it rings towny, it’s like i stepped into his brain and looked and saw that he got a green role card. to summarize all his thoughts and solving ring towny and there are clear progressions, self righteousness and extremes that are hard for mafia to fake

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 5:43 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:22 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:03 pm because sometimes the vibe seems alright but I can't think of a good reason to not scumread him either.
i'd like elaboration for this because i literally don't see how to reconcile this with my pov of baker. i just don't read him as wolfy at all and he comes off as very genuine
I mean same from me to you - what's so genuine about him? What posts scream 'town' to you? I don't see that at all.

(i just started writing the post)

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:01 am damn, i will eat dinner and respond afterwards, i do think you represented her in bad faith and that you did manipulate and gaslight her and i will make a formal post explaining why

mainly i think that she is horrible at articulating her thoughts and that most of her posts lack content and your push on her exploited that, while knowing about it, that made her mad enough to self vote

i think overstating your confidence and pushing her to make her alignment obvious makes most of it make sense but not all of it ig, not fully, so i'll explain

damn, i will eat dinner and respond afterwards, i do think you represented her in bad faith and that you did manipulate and gaslight her and i will make a formal post explaining why

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:48 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 am Holy fuck wigly didn’t even vote dm at eod that is actually insane. Fmpov he pushed her twice and he fucking voted stick in post P#468 and ended on fucking baker making it so stick had 2 and dm had 4 which just always kills DM while trying to not look bad. And if he stayed on stick and Dm self pres’ed then stick dies instead. What the fuck even is that

Context context context

Yes I ended on Baker, I ended on Baker because literally anything was better than DM as I had found towards EoD. DM didn't make it apparent that they were coming back this making Stick's yeet near impossible. Yes I also pushed DM because I needed DM to be in a readable state. Allowing DM to coast played a big part in our victory in timelines.

It is not a matter of looking good or bad when the player responsible for their misyeet is themselves and it's some what backwards for you to think otherwise.

that big post was very stream of conscious-y and i do think ur more towny near the end, finding dm is +++ cause actually. overstating your push and confidence to try to figure out DM's alignment and her being the breakaway wagon that dies over stick is just a lot better

i did not consider this, it was late, i need to reread you know bc you look a lot better

can you post a full readslist while ur at it

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:41 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 am p#389 is also garbage because as of right now baker is my top townread
For context:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:20 pm
baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:11 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:06 pm I've already done so
You disagreed with my scumread on Scotty wow

Why did you vote Falcon?
Yo, did you go from micro reading Scotty's nuance to not even trying to read as to why it looked suspicious at your own convenience?

Allow me to make it easier. You fluff posted all of day 1. Bandwagoned a town for little reason. Advised that you had a suspicion of me/Abi without explanation. As soon as you have suspicion you can suddenly go into hyper nuanced reads against the oerson who suspects you BUT also not provide that anywhere else?
To this I say hell no. I need enunciation on why Baker is town, because the randy "this person is clearly town for reasons" has only lead to silliness.

I've been very clear as to why Baker fits the mold of W and there's been very little effort from literally ANYONE to refute it until this point.

In skimming Baker twice to see if my read is valid, there's only been a very brief moment where my thoughts are like "I could be wrong and this is why."

same for radishes, he's (baker) genuinely my top tr and i don't think i'm wrong. but i'm gonna write a post on it after i get dinner. can you flesh out your read for me, for why you think he's mafia

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:33 am Breaking down @robyns wall post.
wigly scum and wigly immediately gaslights and discredits her. Which is just not what i’d expect of wigly dealing with suspicion because instead of sorting it felt like he got mad and immediately went to discredit her. Especially as DM isn’t the most articulate person here and wigly is quite nice with his rhetoric. I wouldn’t be surprised if Wigly ends up voting DM at eod [i can’t be asked to check my own post to see but this is just to see if my logic holds, and i wonder if wigly found alternate reasoning to vote DM]

Post 386 is just extremely aggressive and i’m not sure why wigly is hardlining for a DM chop based off DM suspecting wigly. He basically asserts that DM is trying to discredit Wigly when that’s literally the opposite of reality, it’s genuine gaslighting. Wigly went and played a w/w game with DM and should know that monroe is just not articulate at all and would get tripped and thrashed in an argument where posturing and rhetoric are being used heavily. DM points out that wigly’s vote d1 was bad and shades him for it which is not inaccurate especially because DM raised concerns about what wigly has been doing. I’m not sure why wigly basically says all theatrically that “This comment really does nothing for you, town OR the gamestate yet you felt the need to do it?” and this quote ends up turning consensus against wigly because he’s essentially refuting shade in an overly aggressive way and is making DM looking quite bad

It’s just strange behavior from wigly, i’m used to someone that would not be ultra manipulative or aggressive, he’d talk it out and try to find DM’s alignment and instead he went and decided to suspect her from the first sign that DM suspected wigly. They just wolfed together so wigly should have a rand< read on her and DM should have a rand< read on DM and her general aesthetic and general weakness when it comes to writing and expressing themself. Which is all to say that nobody is illogical and i think that dm correctly self voted after the blatant manipulation and aggression that wigly showed. If i had to bet dm would leave a legacy that says kill wigly
1st para, you stated that I was gaslighting and discrediting, what specifically are we referring to? Is it the context of the 2nd para?

2nd para, yes, DM made a fallacious argument towards me and I do think it was in the context of DM reacting to me pointing out the patterns I observed in them rather than an informative read. That being the case it didn't advance the game in a way that was constructive. That was very much worth pointing out, as DM's reads need to come from actual context of the thread otherwise I wouldn't be able to read them successfully. It was very much the fact that I played w/w with DM that I knew they needed to be placed on their toes in order for me to tell the difference between their stunted wolf play and their informed town play. It was not at this junction where I had seen the difference yet.

3rd para, I'm not entirely sure, but pretty sure I voiced the DM suspicion before DM omgused me. Their play up until that point was mostly absent, like their wolf game, and I was to solve it by pushing on their slot.

1) no the content i'm referring to is in page 7

2) i don't agree, dm made an argument and said things but she also is uniquely poor at communicating and at properly articulating her thoughts. i don't think i'm exaggerating to say that she comes across as hollow as both alignments and i doubt she could phrase her thoughts in such a way where they feel "full of content" tbh. nor have i ever seen her say a constructive thought lol

and you have meta on her where i think you would know these things and see that as more nai for you

but i'm completely biased as i only read things after she died tbh, 3) i just think that you were particularly aggressive and it seemed like you went and completely jumped on her and were aggressive in a way that i have never seen you be. i also don't think her posts indicated omgus, i think that she genuinely saw something and you pushed her for it while knowing that she lacked the ability to communicate things in a way where everyone here could understand her, and that you effortlessly made her look bad

what time is it for you delta [5:49pm for me]

and do you think you can read stick well? i know you're both from the same sphere

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:42 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:40 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:39 pm
not another twink

anyway, welcome
sap

give me a crash course of what's happened mech wise if anything, I'll do reads in my own time

killed the strongest town role ever d1, and it's d3 and there hasn't been a night kill

d1-2 were town chops

you have 4 votes because we are hypothesizing an inactive scum with the nk, who hasn't actually been around to kill anyone, which would be you

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:39 pm

not another twink

anyway, welcome

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:03 pm because sometimes the vibe seems alright but I can't think of a good reason to not scumread him either.

i'd like elaboration for this because i literally don't see how to reconcile this with my pov of baker. i just don't read him as wolfy at all and he comes off as very genuine

context:

part of the reason i was sorta intentionally a bit inactive here is because i was a wolf in roxy's game and that game was going pretty well for me and i was already a bit short on time due to holiday's and drunkenness. now that the game in question has ended i can be more present here without being outed by any drastic playstyle differences

stick just won a mafia sweep on MU, as in a few minutes ago. so i expect her to be in the same boat as me. as in free to be fully present which i don't think stick has regardless of me knowing about ongoing games

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:45 am
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 am
P#444 martin sees baker as town. P#476 is a long post basically describing the fact that baker has had troubles entering the thread, which i agree with, he has dropped off and he made one towny posting spree which i tonaread based off sheer righteousness and emotions. I also don’t particularly see him as skilled enough to fake that kind of content especially reading a wolf game of his [for separate reasons like 3 months ago] and generally seeing him as a lame duck wolf who couldn’t post well at all [and also had difficulty entering the thread]
This bit just sounded like you had a meta basis.

more disagreeing on martin's read than saying my own read, i wanna sleep on my reads too because usually stuff does change after sleeping/thinking for a few hours

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:13 am You sort of explain these but I feel a focused explanation might be helpful considering they're not consensus:

Why is Baker strong town for you? Is it just a meta-based toneread?

Why is Wilgy so low for you? Is it mainly how he treated DM?

meta has very little to do with it, i was just having an issue with martin's read

and yes, but i don't think i'd chop him today ever, he's just who i think is the most likely deep wolf

i'll explain [baker and wigly reads] further in the morning [5:18am for me on no sleep]

also irt to emphasis and what i want people to read, i'd also be fine if nobody read it because it just helped me situate myself mostly. and if people wanna go inside my head they're free to

can you give some reads on all alive players, MR, with the assumption that garebare flips town

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:46 am Robyn was that big stream-of-conciousness wallpost intended for us or for you?

It feels a bit all over the map.

bit of both, just wanted to get my thoughts down and make reads/get situated with the game

robyn
Baker
MR
Martin

scotty

wigly
stick
LC
Garebare
Porscha/abbie

huh, my poe is wider than i thought [also unordered]

why the fuck did the font change halfway through, i did nothing to it

Stick: do you still agree that wigly’s play is uncentered like you prematurely stated in post #185

Page 7 feels like the first page with actual content, DM calls wigly scum and wigly immediately gaslights and discredits her. Which is just not what i’d expect of wigly dealing with suspicion because instead of sorting it felt like he got mad and immediately went to discredit her. Especially as DM isn’t the most articulate person here and wigly is quite nice with his rhetoric. I wouldn’t be surprised if Wigly ends up voting DM at eod [i can’t be asked to check my own post to see but this is just to see if my logic holds, and i wonder if wigly found alternate reasoning to vote DM]

Post 386 is just extremely aggressive and i’m not sure why wigly is hardlining for a DM chop based off DM suspecting wigly. He basically asserts that DM is trying to discredit Wigly when that’s literally the opposite of reality, it’s genuine gaslighting. Wigly went and played a w/w game with DM and should know that monroe is just not articulate at all and would get tripped and thrashed in an argument where posturing and rhetoric are being used heavily. DM points out that wigly’s vote d1 was bad and shades him for it which is not inaccurate especially because DM raised concerns about what wigly has been doing. I’m not sure why wigly basically says all theatrically that “This comment really does nothing for you, town OR the gamestate yet you felt the need to do it?” and this quote ends up turning consensus against wigly because he’s essentially refuting shade in an overly aggressive way and is making DM looking quite bad

It’s just strange behavior from wigly, i’m used to someone that would not be ultra manipulative or aggressive, he’d talk it out and try to find DM’s alignment and instead he went and decided to suspect her from the first sign that DM suspected wigly. They just wolfed together so wigly should have a rand< read on her and DM should have a rand< read on DM and her general aesthetic and general weakness when it comes to writing and expressing themself. Which is all to say that nobody is illogical and i think that dm correctly self voted after the blatant manipulation and aggression that wigly showed. If i had to bet dm would leave a legacy that says kill wigly

p#389 is also garbage because as of right now baker is my top townread

P#427 is quite good by MR, i feel like all of stick’s posts are well within both of her ranges and she feels kind of aimless only speaking and acting in the moment. To top it off she’s incredibly self conscious and makes posts referencing that same self consciousness. And as town i expect stick to have agenda, i’ve heard good things about her but i’m not seeing that much solving right now from her lmao. She’s been playing like me i admit but i also know she’s been on for every eod which is not a good look considering gamestate which i am beginning to believe that wolves are in fact control of thread and are high posting

Post #434 to be nuanced i think that the content is bad but the point of view is towny, i have hindsight on the flip and i didn’t catch the gaslighting and manipulation until i closely read the thread and it’s not really something you see in the moment due to the slickness and just not thinking all too hard about what aggressive players are specifically doing. Especially from martin’s pov there [and somehow the entire fucking thread consensus thinks that mafia are being potatoes [except radishes]]. It’s the kind of read where you appeal to authority instead of logic partially because at that point in time you have absolutely no reason to suspect or shade one of the most active townies

P#444 martin sees baker as town. P#476 is a long post basically describing the fact that baker has had troubles entering the thread, which i agree with, he has dropped off and he made one towny posting spree which i tonaread based off sheer righteousness and emotions. I also don’t particularly see him as skilled enough to fake that kind of content especially reading a wolf game of his [for separate reasons like 3 months ago] and generally seeing him as a lame duck wolf who couldn’t post well at all [and also had difficulty entering the thread]

Holy fuck wigly didn’t even vote dm at eod that is actually insane. Fmpov he pushed her twice and he fucking voted stick in post P#468 and ended on fucking baker making it so stick had 2 and dm had 4 which just always kills DM while trying to not look bad. And if he stayed on stick and Dm self pres’ed then stick dies instead. What the fuck even is that

P#484 is just very towny

P#487 is not towny

Stick: What if there are 0 wolves between dm/baker, then who are the wolves? [P#495]

P#519 is towny in a way, like it feels like actual solving, radishes suspects and townreads multiple things from stick and dm and doesn't know to vote them. but also it’s scummy from a different pov getting a stick chop and dm is chopped the day after is optimal, cause town!stick can save herself and he also won’t be on the future dm town flip, blah

P#537 it was not a joke, i planned to post for eod but i ended up doing other things and missed eod. I’m only now getting caught up

As i write this i feel myself wanting to tr stick but not being totally convinced by anything, furthermore she has a narrow view of the game and i’m unsure that town!stick gives such surface reads. And i’m surprised that i’m calling them surface level because of reputation, but scotty/wigly/LC/martin have all gave drastically less surface level takes

And like 2 posts down P#566 wigly thinks the same thing as me

P#587 what the fuck, martin/baker were clearly never w/w so saying that is just a bad fucking read. It’s like saying the sky is blue and expecting me to be surprised

P#605 and P#606 is almost my worldview with stick and wigly in poe [this is assuming garebare town] if he is a wolf then they’re both town and this is nonsense because i they’re both town by occam’s razor. But baker is definitely town here

P#607 saying “i lose to wigly” is poor play but also with actual nk’s and needing to chop [dm/garebear/possibly me/abi] before getting into deep wolf hunting is something that i understand tbh, cause like if we had 2 nk’s and martin died n1 he just couldn’t even genuinely consider wigly as wolf, if he is wrong it’s a loss

Fuck P#646 is towny, and other wigly posts have also been towny if i’m being honest with myself

P#692 this did not take 5 mins, and well i think i will add a good dimension of solving to this game

P#702 share with the class

i'd have also sent a nk

my home community ran a town vig role with a cannoneer modifier, d4 was a mess

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/da ... =Cannoneer

oh fuck they self voted, i will post more upon rereading the entire thread

i'm pretty sure that radishes is town and tbh i was drunk during and after that so i can't say anything else

stick/radishes

reads on one another + martin + scotty + dm

i'm here, i can actually post today, n1 also was a dud and nobody claimed a doc clear on someone or a rb outing someone. is there a cannoneer?

apologies, i’ll be posting tomorrow

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:33 pm Robyn's reentry was poot.

yeah it was, i didn't find time to read or respond to anything yet ftr

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:18 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:16 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:10 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
4
36%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?
extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
It might be that Baker is a wolf, and a good wagon.
do you have reads this game
Mostly mud. My mind is mud right now. I know that's not a great look, sorry.

which is it

1) you're emotionally unavailable after dealing with homophobic extended family
2) you've been hitting the bottle too much

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:10 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
4
36%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?
extremely, what do you make of the wagon?
It might be that Baker is a wolf, and a good wagon.

do you have reads this game

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:05 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:33 pm baker
4
36%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee
How wow?

extremely, what do you make of the wagon?

baker
4
36%
Voters: DarlingMonroe, DrWilgy, MartinGG99, Scotty

wowee

I'm here, I'm queer, let's give a cheer

same^ i'll play tomorrow afternoon

i won't be able to see the light from the computer screen tomorrow morning i think lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:47 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:34 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:30 pm Literally forgot Robyn was playing this game. They didn’t even vote D1

@robyn you still drunk?
yes, bad timing, i don't wanna play while intoxicated but i've had a few beers + 2 shots

(i want to post but maybe no posting while drinking will limit my drinking)
Nah, posting while drunk is an old past time. You should try it!

Any of your reads change from yesteryear?

i think your vote on baker is disgusting and i think martin shouldn't clear stick unless she claims attacked and protected (which she might have hinted at?). i think that i wigly is putting the most effort into this game than any other game i've seen him play. which either means wigly is mafia or he hates his family. and honestly i'm 100% certain he hates his family/his kids aren't letting him sleep LOLLLLLL

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:30 pm Literally forgot Robyn was playing this game. They didn’t even vote D1

@robyn you still drunk?

yes, bad timing, i don't wanna play while intoxicated but i've had a few beers + 2 shots

(i want to post but maybe no posting while drinking will limit my drinking)

i will be drunk for the next 24h, or longer

stick’s catch up was surprisingly bad, i don’t suspect her or anything but those were just not good posts, lacking in actual reads and more like “where do i vote”

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:48 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:37 pm and since you have thoughts on this game, what about stick
All I know of Stick is that Stick was among the higher-ranked players of the last MU Champs, so I don't think much can be applied to them -- in particular the observation of whether or not they're comfortable. Chances are they can muster confidence in how they play.

The "phone in" framing seems a bit genuine -- I would think a wolf could use more common wording and not be concerned at all, and they would be right -- but their pre-emptive "sorry if that's the case" in their elaboration seems possibly TMI-ish for this stage of the game. I mean, as I've said, it goes without saying that people can and will be wrong in this game, especially early game. So its odd to be apologized to for that at this stage, and under circumstances wherein only two people have voiced anything negative about me.

to be perfectly blunt, i think that you're reading into nothing, "phoning in" framing is common and doesn't imply anything. it's gotten to be more popular on mu recently iirc

furthermore, plenty can be applied to them, read them how you would anyone else. who gives a fuck about champs, they're just another player with thoughts and agenda and feelings just like me and you. there is no distinction. so read them and if they're town then be comfortable with them as town, if they're mafia then push them

and the observation of how comfortable they are can catch plenty of players, wolfing in an unfamiliar list is quite hard

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