The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:17 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:34 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:24 pm the oracle is both confirmed town and has mechanical info that the rest of the lobby does not that

we have to follow my order of operations, or we lose, there are mechanics in play which make it so

i can pretty much chain 3 mafia
Sure thing then.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Is there a possible sequence order you can provide? Or does the if/then/else of that require us to just survive lylo?
mac->spf->creature->one in porscha/sig->x
Yes?

u can live now that sabi spewed u town

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:07 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:02 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:01 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:56 pm i think it's fucking barbaric to invoke the logic that i don't understand mechanics, that's literally gaslighting and taking my influence away, quite literally the most wolfy thing that can happen

and i'd like to say again that sabi is outed
How am I outted? You had a post before the shenanigans saying stuff that doesn't match your current info. I wanted clarification if this was legit or not because we can't make mistakes.

So kindly bugger off.
you haven't read much at all and you spontaneously use that, i simply don't believe you are town and it's a strong read because of your posturing against me
Or you're just upset I said you are an egotistical player who over values people opinion on your skillset

but why exactly is that an argument against me understanding mechanics?
why is this the first argument that you use?
do you think i'm a logically enough mafia player to play optimally in these scenarios?
why do you doubt me and my explanations?
summarize what i've said and explain how i'm mechanically being egotistical, otherwise i will refute your arguments on lack of merit

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:05 pm I'm still not wolf

read back from daystart

i'd also like to remind people that we've had 2 mafia controlled nk's and none were mac/spf lol

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:01 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:56 pm i think it's fucking barbaric to invoke the logic that i don't understand mechanics, that's literally gaslighting and taking my influence away, quite literally the most wolfy thing that can happen

and i'd like to say again that sabi is outed
How am I outted? You had a post before the shenanigans saying stuff that doesn't match your current info. I wanted clarification if this was legit or not because we can't make mistakes.

So kindly bugger off.

you haven't read much at all and you spontaneously use that, i simply don't believe you are town and it's a strong read because of your posturing against me

i think it's fucking barbaric to invoke the logic that i don't understand mechanics, that's literally gaslighting and taking my influence away, quite literally the most wolfy thing that can happen

and i'd like to say again that sabi is outed

one last post tonight, i have read mechanics here closer than anyone, checked and rechecked mechanics through my head and with host and with mech info

no fps here, i am playing correctly and i understand every mechanical aspect of the game

nice win mafia

yeah im ghosting the game

what the FUCk

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:31 pm i dont mean to be rude but my final guess is that lucy is wrong about the basic mechanics of the setup, or intentionally lying, and she should be ignored today. you can figure out why yourself

i am doing neither, i can't elaborate further

cya later

this fucking game

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm I don't think Mac is wolf.

Lucy pushing info that Mac is wolf after saying she was roleblocked the night the card WA sused is????

again thank you for the wolf claim

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:28 pm Lucy didn't you say your powers didn't work or an I misremembering

there's no way you're town after saying this, thanks for the wolf claim

however no, i was able to use my ability on every night

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5] Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:19 pmpossible how?

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:19 pmpossible

how?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:19 pm "Every night the Oracle reads a three card spread. This entails choosing three players. At the end of the night phase, The Oracle will learn the three cards that were drawn by that group of three players, but not which player drew which card. The Oracle cannot be night killed."

this is the description of the oracle in the OP. it is not mechanically possible for lucy to know who played a specific card on a specific dayphase. it is not mechanically possible for lucy to know that a player on the creature wagon was the one who played the judgement card (even if it is possible)

so @lucy i need you to cut the bullshit and stop framing your objectively non-mechanical reads as though they are mechanically true. if you're that confused about my alignment then INTERACT WITH ME. stop trying to be the hero.

i know the cards played yesterday for 3 players do i not? if they use a card that is public i will know how it was used, will i not?

i don't see your argument because that's quite literally the role, seeing who played what card on x day. it is strictly mechanically possible for me to know who got and played x card on x day lol, i'm not sure at all how you're arguing this point

i'm pissed and i'll start casing tomorrow i think, every town reading this must follow me and recognize that mafia has incentive to not follow me and to persuade you to not follow me. i'll explain everything more clearly tomorrow, stack on mac until then

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:06 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:04 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:02 pm im just going to be blunt and say that since info-dumping is not allowed in this setup, my thought is that lucy does not actually have the mechanical knowledge to say that me/mac definitely contains a mafia, or else she wouldn't be able to say it in the first place

i would be kind of embarrassed to live in a world where mac is mafia and i've been badly misreading him for this entire game but if he is, i don't think that lucy's claim is why
To summarize. Lucy claims a zealot check in sig/porscha. The rest of what Lucy is saying is not very useful.
i also know that 1 in 2 alive players on the creature wagon used judgement on creature

@staypositivefriend please explain how this isn't a red

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:04 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:02 pm im just going to be blunt and say that since info-dumping is not allowed in this setup, my thought is that lucy does not actually have the mechanical knowledge to say that me/mac definitely contains a mafia, or else she wouldn't be able to say it in the first place

i would be kind of embarrassed to live in a world where mac is mafia and i've been badly misreading him for this entire game but if he is, i don't think that lucy's claim is why
To summarize. Lucy claims a zealot check in sig/porscha. The rest of what Lucy is saying is not very useful.

i also know that 1 in 2 alive players on the creature wagon used judgement on creature

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:03 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:00 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:57 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:55 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:51 pm Judgement card can be only played once.
i theoretically know who played it
You haven't explained how Mac and SPF are hypothetically partnered.
Also as far as I know each card appears infinitely many times in the deck.
spf's and mac's positions are blatantly wolfy here, if they were v/v they always dome one another before gamestate gets to this

they're w/v minimum, i'll case beyond this though
oh okay so i was right, lucy does not have mechanical information and is just going out of her way to wolfside even though she should be able to figure out i'm town by doing the worlds most basic spew analysis. that's cool. that's good

one in you/mac are scum

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:02 pm im just going to be blunt and say that since info-dumping is not allowed in this setup, my thought is that lucy does not actually have the mechanical knowledge to say that me/mac definitely contains a mafia, or else she wouldn't be able to say it in the first place

i would be kind of embarrassed to live in a world where mac is mafia and i've been badly misreading him for this entire game but if he is, i don't think that lucy's claim is why

holy fuck this post is so fucking wolfy you're questioning my mechanical reds LMAO

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:57 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:55 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:51 pm Judgement card can be only played once.
i theoretically know who played it
You haven't explained how Mac and SPF are hypothetically partnered.
Also as far as I know each card appears infinitely many times in the deck.

spf's and mac's positions are blatantly wolfy here, if they were v/v they always dome one another before gamestate gets to this

they're w/v minimum, i'll case beyond this though

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:51 pm Judgement card can be only played once.

i theoretically know who played it

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:50 pm I don't understand how you can't explain hypothetically why we have to hang in exactly that order.
I finally went and looked back at what exactly Oracle does, and I don't get it.

i know who pulled cards such as judgement and death and who is and who isn't zealot

there's a card called justice which when pulled is another mafia kill, if mafia pulls that then that's quite literally 2 town for 1 mafia which is very bad news, lynching zealot after means another town, dangerously close to parity

anyways spf/mac are both outed fmpov

if we don't lynch within my order we mechanically lose, every town has to vote with me

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:42 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:42 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:41 pm i'd like to repeat that i believe creature was not zealot

and that every town has to vote with me in my order, or we lose, and mafia knows i know the landmines
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If you think he’s not the zealot but mafia why aren’t we getting him out today?

cause i'm more confident on mac/spf both being mafia, nothing will happen until they die, furthermore i think there's a solid chance that creature is in fact town just because they want to waste another day and get another ML

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:39 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:33 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:31 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:24 pm the oracle is both confirmed town and has mechanical info that the rest of the lobby does not that

we have to follow my order of operations, or we lose, there are mechanics in play which make it so

i can pretty much chain 3 mafia
I’m not listening to you sorry.
Good 'why' there mate.
I explained in the follow on post but have very clearly sinfe d1 stacked out the IC has no more say than anyone else.

The fact you’re so willingly to blindly follow them is way outside your town meta
Alright, so Oracle can claim.

No one has CC'd legitimately.

Either the Oracle is trolling or Lucy is trolling, but until there's a legitimate CC, I have no reason to think Lucy would take over the game for no discernable reason. I'd say this is the heaviest the hand has been and that means something.
The oracle did claim?

I’m not saying she isn’t the oracle I’m saying there’s no reason to listen to her.

Also have you been paying attention? She’s tried to take over the game since day 1. The majority of the player base minus the wolfy players are ignoring her.

look how that went lmao

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:41 pm i'd like to repeat that i believe creature was not zealot

and that every town has to vote with me in my order, or we lose, and mafia knows i know the landmines

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i'd like to repeat that creature was not zealot

and that every town has to vote with me in my order, or we lose, and mafia knows i know the landmines

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:37 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:36 pm
sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:33 pm We’ve got to vote off tuutuu or Wilgy today both have shown themselves as being pretty clear mafia.

If Lucy names one of the three Chained player who everyone agrees is scummy I’d be willing to vote that wau, but I’m not blindly following an IC who frankly hasn’t been right all game
i'm 50% that you're mafia lol
Which you’ve thought since day 1 since I refuse you sheep you.

You’re an extremely bias IC this game and you can’t vaguely claim mech info to get everyone to do whay you want especially when we can all see what your role is

i can't be more explicit than i believe one in you porscha is zealot and that i believe one in mac/spf pulled the judgement card

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:33 pm We’ve got to vote off tuutuu or Wilgy today both have shown themselves as being pretty clear mafia.

If Lucy names one of the three Chained player who everyone agrees is scummy I’d be willing to vote that wau, but I’m not blindly following an IC who frankly hasn’t been right all game

i'm 50% that you're mafia lol

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:24 pm the oracle is both confirmed town and has mechanical info that the rest of the lobby does not that

we have to follow my order of operations, or we lose, there are mechanics in play which make it so

i can pretty much chain 3 mafia
Sure thing then.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

Is there a possible sequence order you can provide? Or does the if/then/else of that require us to just survive lylo?

mac->spf->creature->one in porscha/sig->x

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:25 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:24 pm the oracle is both confirmed town and has mechanical info that the rest of the lobby does not that

we have to follow my order of operations, or we lose, there are mechanics in play which make it so

i can pretty much chain 3 mafia
So why Mac

my hands are tied

the oracle is both confirmed town and has mechanical info that the rest of the lobby does not that

we have to follow my order of operations, or we lose, there are mechanics in play which make it so

i can pretty much chain 3 mafia

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:11 pm Was there mechanically a way fro creature not to be yeeted and not being the Zealot?

yes, there's this card called judgement

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:10 pm [VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

intent to thunderdome today

NO

creature is probably mafia though

no, i don't believe creature was zealot

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:05 pm So uh creature?

no

mac dies today, period

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm Mac, I know you’re excited to get to the “guess the zealot” portion of the game but come on.
lol so is mac the zealot? w/w with seanzie?

and like u all decided to collectively openwolf coz u have a lock win? how do u have a lock win lmao

wait is sig town....

you’ll see lol

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:29 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:27 pm dennis for one would've had a better readslist and be freaked out at gamestate
secondly, he tr all dead town lol
I feel like he's the same as lawyers game?

uuuuhhhhhh

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:27 pmLucy exists?

not for long, about to shower

dennis for one would've had a better readslist and be freaked out at gamestate
secondly, he tr all dead town lol

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:24 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:22 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:20 pm Dennis is literally just trolling around LMAO. I am being told that actually this is Dennis' first wolfgame and hes just a natural at it.

Why is this game like this.
yeah he's a wolf, and his first wolf rand
Ok sick cool thanks

Where did you get this read? Because I swear on GOD if it is because of my readlists you said 'uh' to from DAY THREE I am leaving for the rest of today

that readslist along with your other posts = outing tbh

i'm voting him

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:20 pm Dennis is literally just trolling around LMAO. I am being told that actually this is Dennis' first wolfgame and hes just a natural at it.

Why is this game like this.

yeah he's a wolf, and his first wolf rand

god bereft always town

brb, creature and dennis could flip scum

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