The Syndicate

FUCK, everyone on Wigly rn, mafia can hammer alison with a card, let's adjust wagons like that

it's almost 900 posts in and i don't have any confident wolf reads... great
i'll reread and post a readslist tonight

after that unclaim i can get to work making better wagons, firstly by abolishing literally every current wagon with 3 or above votes

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:26 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:23 pm Yes, Rondo is holding the game hostage by talking about literally everything but the Oracle issue.
Not really. Ive already said I town read Lucy so we can just move on

unclaim

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:12 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:07 pm Rondo, you do realize by fake claiming you're nuking my influence as IC, which i am interpreting as a wolf claim because it's extremely extremely anti town

you're actually fucking tilting me by not engaging
We need your power and influence to switch those wagons.

first order of business is being un CCed which is why i'm particularly pissed

Rondo, you do realize by fake claiming you're nuking my influence as IC, which i am interpreting as a wolf claim because it's extremely extremely anti town

you're actually fucking tilting me by not engaging

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

wolf claim

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:23 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:12 pm i am oracle, are you CCing? @RondoDimBuckle

hardclaim your position
Its ok I town read you anyway

If you don't unclaim i am taking that as a wolf claim

i am oracle, are you CCing? @RondoDimBuckle

hardclaim your position

i am hard vetoing alison lynch today

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Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm Hot take: Alison/Roxy is w/w.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a hot take.

bad take, feels v/v

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:55 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it
Wouldn't it have been better for the oracle to draw the NK?

i don't get nked here in this playlist until d3-4, optimal play is to increase town influence and IC myself early as that's more pro town

alison, 100 post count with no lift before eod

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:54 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand
It's clear she lost her temper and her posts are less coherent and strategic before that; do you think she has a calmer temper as mafia?

yes, absolutely. i think you've just tilted her. in her mafia games there was pretty obvious agenda behind every post, i don't see that here. and we kinda talked on dc how she would try to keep a calmer temper in general

i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand

i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it

Justice - Justice, Fairness, Truth, Cause and Effect, Law. If the player who holds this card is night killed, they may choose to take another player of their choice down with them. If the player who holds this card is eliminated by poll, they may choose to take one of their voters down with them.

this is the only way i die, so i think spf's option is generally optimal

1) lucy is not an inter
2) fakeclaiming oracle as town/mafia is inting here
3) ergo i am oracle

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:30 pm hardclaiming oracle

no rescind no fps

hardclaiming oracle

ughhhh why am i being TR so widely

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:01 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:00 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:59 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 pm usually i do

also there’s just always a wolf in alison/spf
I think Alison is one
don’t push or wagon her today
Alright then where should we go?

rest is up to u, love

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:59 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:58 pm usually i do

also there’s just always a wolf in alison/spf
I think Alison is one

don’t push or wagon her today

creature is a terrible vote as he plays with his alignment on his kurdish flag cape after d1

usually i do

also there’s just always a wolf in alison/spf

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm @lucy what is SR?

scumread

btw roxy i expect this game to have over 4k posts or more, just be ready because this’ll be much harder than the previous 2 games with relatively relaxed playerlists

@Creature how do i obv town myself after d1 lmao??? usually people only let me live after i’ve successfully destroyed a wolf on d3

@RondoDimBuckle pretty sure the level of tryharding i put into the thread has zero correlation to my alignment, furthermore my spew is notoriously hard to read so i’m pretty sure that analysis won’t do shit even if i was a wolf. so my question is, why do you think that it will, and why do you think that wim matters?

also i thought u were bluffing or calling me a wolf, i thought getting u to verbalize those thoughts make your thoughts about 2 wolves above this line super wolfy

which is why i SR you atm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:19 am
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:15 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:14 am im not bored anymore though. i think bereft is town. i think porscha is town. i think mac is town. i think sig might be town. still figuring it out from there
do you think oracle should insta claim
i don't see any obvious upsides to them hiding since they can't be nightkilled but i also dont particularly care tbh. the orc is free to make their own decisions

if i randed mafia do you think you could confidently read me d1?

i’ve never randed mafia against town spf lol

also i’m drinking, will get drunk later

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:14 am im not bored anymore though. i think bereft is town. i think porscha is town. i think mac is town. i think sig might be town. still figuring it out from there

do you think oracle should insta claim

Porscha town due to feeling comfortable and posting analysis already in this playerlist

just figured out who oracle is

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:35 am Alison (she/her) lw

agreed

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:07 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:04 am maybe, but that doesn't really strike me as the way that lucy thinks about games. she tends to play very internally and makes a point of keeping her cards held close to her chest unless she feels like she has something important to say. so, her going out of her way to locktown two players in a dry gamestate pinged me specifically from her more than it would have pinged me from another random person
I have thoughts on this but would prefer @lucy answer first

i generally lack influence in games, that is generally my weakness. i know spf knows this, however i think she has failed to understand that tryhard means partly correcting my errors which in this case is trying to come up and say more thoughts. i definitely do play as she described, but i also didn't mean to be taken so seriously when saying "locking" lmako

spf is probably town

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 am
lucy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:20 pm locking sig and sean in as town
i believe that lucy would want to tryhard in this game as town but i find it slightly more difficult to believe that she would have two confident townreads that she was willing to lock less than 2 pages in the game, particularly since the game got off to such a slow/boring start

maybe im just projecting my own struggle to feel invested into this game so far on to lucy but it felt like she was rushing the solving process in a way that is kinda uncharacteristic for her

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6521940

mac, 100 post cap btw, don't blow through it

locking sig and sean in as town

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:14 pm two wolves above this line

rank most to least wolfy players "above this line" as you say

this game will be glorious, one thing to note is that i will be tryharding this game

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