he’s almost certainly a bottomMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:25 pmfalcon top?Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:45 pm Probably too early to do this, but meh.
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- Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:26 pm
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- Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:15 pm
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i don’t even remember porscha from that game, i couldn’t say but i doubt she solves like me
you and mac will have to bite into porscha before i bite, it would be incorrect for me to give my thoughts at this time
you and mac will have to bite into porscha before i bite, it would be incorrect for me to give my thoughts at this time
- Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:59 pm
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this is me tagging @Alison
- Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:56 pm
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this is me consciously waiting for others to talk since i dislike myself being present in every conversation when i could be
- Thu Aug 18, 2022 12:02 am
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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:41 pm
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reasonableSeanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:39 pmI push and pick where I see places to push and pick, and then re-evaluate after seeing how people react to the pushing and picking. I don't really care if I state an "incorrect" read, because I'm not stating reads to be correct or win bragging points, but to push the game forward in certain ways.
Personally I'd rather have poor read accuracy and actually state reads than average one read a game
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:22 pm
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okMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:22 pmI struggle to believe you here.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:20 pmI can instantly see PR's but it's harder for me to see scum, scum takes more time for nowMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:17 pm Due to the fact that the things I know you make reads over are not contingent on anything time relevant.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:20 pm
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I can instantly see PR's but it's harder for me to see scum, scum takes more time for nowMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:17 pm Due to the fact that the things I know you make reads over are not contingent on anything time relevant.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:19 pm
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you didn't read the conversation closely, there is a message which is a direct contradiction to thatMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:16 pmYou making excuses predicated in logic for not having reads day 1 is entirely inconsistent with the information I have about your playstyle actually.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:13 pmif I was making it up, it would be consistent with all the information you have about my playstyleMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:12 pm You are a player who self professes to trust your instinct and makes gut reads you cant articulate based on micro moments. Your current standpoint not comply with your stated playstyle. Ergo I can only assume you are just making shit up to sound reasonable.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:13 pm
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if I was making it up, it would be consistent with all the information you have about my playstyleMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:12 pm You are a player who self professes to trust your instinct and makes gut reads you cant articulate based on micro moments. Your current standpoint not comply with your stated playstyle. Ergo I can only assume you are just making shit up to sound reasonable.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:09 pm
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I played with the same players for 2 years straight, easier to sort everyone as town until they drop lower, because I had lots of meta and experienceMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:08 pmHow so? Seems more likely the opposite to me.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:07 pmwhat?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:06 pmHow is that +ev to the town wincon?
with the assumption that people are town it's much easier for me to see anti town behavior
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:08 pm
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wait I see more
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:08 pm
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and I mean anti town stuff that is highly individualistic
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:07 pm
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what?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:06 pmHow is that +ev to the town wincon?lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:05 pmI'm townreading everyone rn (that's my base/null read, easier to sort with that assumption)MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:04 pmBut you're townreading Sabi correct?lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:03 pmnot enough infoMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pmMay I plz haz readz?lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pmthen there's nothing left to discussAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:59 pm
Okay. I am good eith my vote then tbh. I don't know the proper strategy so lets just ping this and call it a day.
with the assumption that people are town it's much easier for me to see anti town behavior
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:05 pm
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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:05 pm
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I'm townreading everyone rn (that's my base/null read, easier to sort with that assumption)MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:04 pmBut you're townreading Sabi correct?lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:03 pmnot enough infoMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pmMay I plz haz readz?lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pmthen there's nothing left to discussAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:59 pmOkay. I am good eith my vote then tbh. I don't know the proper strategy so lets just ping this and call it a day.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:53 pmi have a fake tooth loaded with cyanide, i will never give trade secrets to the enemyAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:50 pm
This is suspicious but also fits my current agenda so I will allow it.
Lucy please power rank thr game publicly.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:04 pm
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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:04 pm
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OHHHHH I see more of what achro is doing
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:03 pm
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more like a plankMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pmWe shall see. She is already walking a fine line lol.Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:00 pm Lucy will give us a solve and if she is v we may or may not follow it. Ez
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:03 pm
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not enough infoMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pmMay I plz haz readz?lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pmthen there's nothing left to discussAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:59 pmOkay. I am good eith my vote then tbh. I don't know the proper strategy so lets just ping this and call it a day.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:53 pmi have a fake tooth loaded with cyanide, i will never give trade secrets to the enemyAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:50 pmThis is suspicious but also fits my current agenda so I will allow it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:45 pm I agree with achro. Sabi and Lucy seem to be the mafia.
Lucy please power rank thr game publicly.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:02 pm
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do you change your pfp after every game?Achromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:00 pm Lucy will give us a solve and if she is v we may or may not follow it. Ez
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:02 pm
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1) idk I was only talking about the seanzie placementMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:00 pmHow does simply voting someone imply they are wanting you ro have an ate meltdown?
I can perceive how Sabi can deduce Achro and I as having those motives but Seanzie hasnt made posts that could be construed that way imo.
2)I think she just named all her voters, nothing more or less
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:01 pm
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then there's nothing left to discussAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:59 pmOkay. I am good eith my vote then tbh. I don't know the proper strategy so lets just ping this and call it a day.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:53 pmi have a fake tooth loaded with cyanide, i will never give trade secrets to the enemyAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:50 pmThis is suspicious but also fits my current agenda so I will allow it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:45 pm I agree with achro. Sabi and Lucy seem to be the mafia.
Lucy please power rank thr game publicly.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:00 pm
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bring lots of rope and make sure you're a master at tying knotsMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:59 pmBecause I have designs on sleeping with Seanzie and need to make him fall in love with me.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:58 pm
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or protect scum accidentally
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:58 pm
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seanzie did what he's doing before he did it (town lean for town mind meld), and achro did it after and he doesn't feel like he can successfully read achro therefore no protection to possibly seem scummy
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:56 pm
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????????MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:55 pmSo?
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:54 pm
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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:53 pm
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i have a fake tooth loaded with cyanide, i will never give trade secrets to the enemyAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:50 pmThis is suspicious but also fits my current agenda so I will allow it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:45 pm I agree with achro. Sabi and Lucy seem to be the mafia.
Lucy please power rank thr game publicly.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:52 pm
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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:51 pm
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if i was actually in anti spew i’d intentionally lean into sabi being my partner and successfully get her lynched with meMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:50 pmLucy: Now in antispew.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:47 pmclever right?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:47 pmLol I see what you did there.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:33 pmthis would imply you have a difference check on me and sabiAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:30 pm [VOTE: lucy] aubergine[VOTE: sabi] aubergine
I will pelt your corpse then fiend and your friend too.
Buy seriously time to learn to play as either alignment x)
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:50 pm
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i’ve slipped again
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:50 pm
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uh oh this isn’t mafia chat
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:48 pm
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@Sabiplz we’re bring stress tested, so don’t be stressed, everything will be okay
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:47 pm
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clever right?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:47 pmLol I see what you did there.lucy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:33 pmthis would imply you have a difference check on me and sabiAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:30 pm [VOTE: lucy] aubergine[VOTE: sabi] aubergine
I will pelt your corpse then fiend and your friend too.
Buy seriously time to learn to play as either alignment x)
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:42 pm
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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:40 pm
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i’m down like tongues in mexico wayAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:38 pm It would not. But I want you contributing day 1 this game so I am going to exert pressure on you to see how you do.
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:34 pm
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i have learned to play, from myself, quite successfully too
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:33 pm
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this would imply you have a difference check on me and sabiAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:30 pm [VOTE: lucy] aubergine[VOTE: sabi] aubergine
I will pelt your corpse then fiend and your friend too.
Buy seriously time to learn to play as either alignment x)
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:28 pm
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you will never take me aliveAchromatic wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:24 pmI did ask to see them. Stop flirting with sabi and show tbh
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:27 pm
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i can’t tell right now, but i will see it if she isMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:23 pm Are you trying to say Sabi is already out of her scumrange?
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:21 pm
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everyone has agenda and plans and thoughts which are consistent to their person. when you pull scum you start doing things outside of a preset range that is largely determined by player strength. since i understand you completely you stepping outside of your range is obvious, whereas it would be harder for me to see mac and achro
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:17 pm
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I thought it was straightforward
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:16 pm
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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:15 pm
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it's different for you and el Maco
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:14 pm
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like look at sabi here, you can tell everything she does conscious and unconsciously, if there is an agenda or a thought outside of her capacity as a player that's scum
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:13 pm
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I don't write them down but they are even better than a reads list at reading people
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:11 pm
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this Mac and sabi read was complete fucking nonsense, I've lost my trust in you to have reads better than rand Seanzie
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:07 pm
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I think u fumble around and have a poor reads accuracy, do you have a poor reads accuracy seanzie?
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:03 pm
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