The Syndicate

The trivia.... is a rule? Where you get entered into a lottery if you don't vote by EOD? And two people are randomly matched from that lottery each night?

Or something along the line

**/vote whysper**

Well, okay then

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:28 pm I really don't like how things went from "let's rush vote whysper as a RT/Bfore she shows up again" to "ah well, there's already votes on whysper, might as well"

So, this seems to be the slot that people are considering as counter(?)wagon.
I'm gonna be honest, this is more a vote out of protest of the abovementioned progression than anything else

**/vote twoplayersandanonion**

(Also becuase i dont wanna end up in trivia deathmatch, and time is running out, but yeah)

I really don't like how things went from "let's rush vote whysper as a RT/Bfore she shows up again" to "ah well, there's already votes on whysper, might as well"

So, this seems to be the slot that people are considering as counter(?)wagon.
I'm gonna be honest, this is more a vote out of protest of the abovementioned progression than anything else

**/vote twoplayersandanonion**

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:11 pm

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:04 pm

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 pm @Tilgarial who do u plan to exile?

I've considered asking who I should exile in thread, but that ran into the exact same problem as this question.
My ability is, technically speaking, in some sense, a protective.
Protectives aren't too great when everybody knows who you're targetting?

I can confirm that I'm not targeting zone again tho.
I also considered millium, but I assume they wouldn't be too happy about the part of my ability that blocks theirs.

Well then you should be exiling people u think are good aligned.

Even if that means reducing the positive influence they have on thread?

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:15 pm I mean if u are going to exile me, then confirm it, else don't touch me

I confirm: I am NOT exiling you.
My reasons to exile you were that you're effectively my top town read (for arguably bad reasons, bu still), and also one of the people spouting misinformation in thread so giving you a timeout to reread was a positive.
But no, since I said it in thread, it is NOT happening.

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 pm @Tilgarial who do u plan to exile?

I've considered asking who I should exile in thread, but that ran into the exact same problem as this question.
My ability is, technically speaking, in some sense, a protective.
Protectives aren't too great when everybody knows who you're targetting?

I can confirm that I'm not targeting zone again tho.
I also considered millium, but I assume they wouldn't be too happy about the part of my ability that blocks theirs.

beancat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:05 pm Important update!

My faction name has been changed from "Neutral" to "Survivor".

Why?

Let me correct spme things about ya'lls ideas about beancat.
It was not a masonry. It was a 3 person FACTION. with a FACTION ABILITY. (Which was a heal)
This wasn't claimed by beancat. This was claimed by those that were originally in said faction, but died and WEREN'T anymore.

So it's not even a masons, it's just straight up "you're one faction, here is your ability"

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:45 pm
Tbh, if it weren't for the fact informed minority wouldn't want us supporting town in a more active role just as much as uninformed majority shouldn't want to risk us turning to informed minority on flip, I'd be doubting your motives.

It can probably even be argued that informed minority has more reason to ignore us neutrals, as we are most likely to be out of the game upon reaching our win-con, whereas uninformed majority is more likely to doubt us, so it could even be rather easily spun into a case to support Millium=good, but I still think you're barking up the wrong tree, so to say

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:22 pm Again my best guess is Owl and beancat are evil, beancat more likely since they are full of shit

Beancat has literally been outed by other people.
They started with a neutral three man-faction chat with a faction heal as ability.
Both of their teammates flipped early on and immediatley said this. It's literally not even up for depate? They are undeniably neutral in their first role.

And based similarly, can be easily proven as various(at least two, as far as I can remember) other people confirmed to have received that basket of theirs.
Unless you argue it's actually something else or some sort, you're literally just pointing fingers.
Like, what the heck are you even doing?
Yes, we know this is bastard. But as far as I can tell, it is very much the "everything has a rule, there are just too many of them and they're all convoluted" type of bastard.

So, with somebody saying we can win with our "outer" wincon/role, why go after those that are basically proven to nor be in your way?
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Is this some sort of anti-neut mentality? Is it just going after the obvious targets? I've no clue.

Tbh, if it weren't for the fact informed minority wouldn't want us supporting town in a more active role just as much as uninformed majority shouldn't want to risk us turning to informed minority on flip, I'd be doubting your motives.

@SeonRichard you said somewhere I didn't kidnap zone due to kidnapöing and exile being different mechanics; my abiity was always exile, people simomy talked about it as kidnapping due to more familiarity with the term (or something? Maybe?)


Has anybody considered that maybe the end flips aren't the "core" role, but mafia/town depending on wether they were informed minority/uninformed majority, like it would be in a regular game, disregarding their actual faction?
As far as I'm aware, all "final" flips were town, which doesn't add up with all the factions we know of, ngl

(Yes, side note, millium has info that people with the known mafia role are uninformed majority. Mafia in this post was used independent of said faction, as a counterpoint to town. Those with a mafia role would flip town in a world where this post is true and milliums info is true too.)

Other corrections to make:
I exiled/kidnapped beancat N1, based N2, and now zone N3. 3 uses.

...I forgot the others, but there were more that weren't related to me. Regardless, there's a lot of misinformation going on and I don't have the posts to correct them all. (Also, I'm lazy and my memory is bad. I don't want to and shouldn't be the one keeping things straight.)
But it was enough for me realize that ya'll aren't going to be doing... well, anything really, if ya'll don't get your info straight.
....good luck with that, I guess

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:41 pm

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:18 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:02 pm

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:01 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:59 pm How about u full claim, I can't even shoot anymore since I got my true role

what did ur alignment change to?

Mafia Token, I don't have a role, I am vanilla, with a ton of 1 shot town sided items

Why is this almost word for word what spectatochat claimed?
I mean
Disregarding the role double. It feels like a very similar way to say it

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Also. Can somebody list out the reasons to vote whysper?
And potentially give them time to actually show up and be questioned, lol

Idk, and IDC but also why with such a strong protective role did u one, immediately back padel on ur first target, and then now, randomly target someone because they asked

There is no reason to suspect whysper outside low post count = bad, which isn't even relevant in regards to that slot

For one, I'm a neutral with the wincon of having 3 other factions win.
I'm technically townsided due to the fact that multiple mafia (evil) factions would need to get rid of each other, but there are technically enough neutral factions for my wincon too

And even from a purely town perspective, my ability isn't all that useful either.
It blocks an ability use, and a day in chat. What reason are there for mafia to kill somebody? Their activities in day chat... and their abilities?
So if I go for a strong town(which I can't even know for sure is town), I'm literally trading "hey, maybe somebody would target this one" for "let's prevent the thing they're doing".
I don't really consider that a grrat trade, tbh, so somebody _wanting_ to go in there was a conundrum off my shoulders. Of course I took it

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And my whysper comments were meant to be a bit of a thought raiser. "Hey, wait a minute. We can think!!" I know I'm not the most involved in thread, due to reasons.
But giving people a bit of a push to consider stuff was worth burning a post or two.


I apologize if I seem a bit frustrated, this is the third time I wrote this. I'm not entirely sure what happened to the first two, but they didn't show up in thread.

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:02 pm

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:01 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:59 pm How about u full claim, I can't even shoot anymore since I got my true role

what did ur alignment change to?

Mafia Token, I don't have a role, I am vanilla, with a ton of 1 shot town sided items

Why is this almost word for word what spectatochat claimed?
I mean
Disregarding the role double. It feels like a very similar way to say it

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.
.

Also. Can somebody list out the reasons to vote whysper?
And potentially give them time to actually show up and be questioned, lol