The Syndicate

Yeah there was a thread kind of a thread acceleration when dunia was under the spotlight but I am not sure it wasnt just a timezone thing. That comment from Urist was just so lamist and felt odd timing wise (that is something u expect to be said closer to eod). Like dolby/urist unpaired

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:59 am Probably urist or NAA.

Oh yeah it was Urist. Is there a way to get the votecount at that time?

Someone said we should consolidate wagons yesterday evening, do you remember who it was? (I will backread but I d rather not lol)

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:44 am I think we can all confidently say creature has sadly rolled wolf.

His wolf tell don't lie.

What is it?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:35 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:33 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:31 am Mac / rask

I think you're both antagonizing each other with a bit of underhanded passive aggressiveness and you're actually just both town.

I mean I am quite aware that I am town but where does the confidence come from in your rask read?

Tone read tbh.

I do have one gripe with Rask outstanding, and he can perhaps clear it up for me @Le petit poussin - have you ever played with LP before?

Nope unless its an alt I didnt recognize.

oh god why am I even replying.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:10 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:08 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:03 am Like I dunno, we didn't play that many games together, but I associate town!you with that Stormtossed play and it was radically different. Like you were burning the thread to the ground back then.

You are making a meta read based on a game I played a year ago when I try harded and survived four games and comparing it to this low effort day 1 play?

Okay. You are pretty much full of shit.

Four days*

It's not like I played against wolf!Mac a couple of weeks ago.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:06 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:05 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:02 am So I am suspicious because I did not provide ample explanation for my early game random soulreads? I see.

Mac: what unexplained pushes did I make?
Raskol: all of them.
Mac: yes, but that's not wolfy.
Raskol:

get real

I mean yes that was my thought progression. I didn't think that I had made ample enough reads lacking baselessness to be called out on such. Then I looked back, see a cpl of random reads I made that have no basis and decided you're suspicious for the shit push anyway. C'est la vie.

Well if you decided it that's OK.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:02 am Yes I am also prone to townreading people who overexplain early game reads and scumread those who just go with the flow expressing themselves. That is surely a path that will secure a town victory.

You are a funny guy.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:02 am So I am suspicious because I did not provide ample explanation for my early game random soulreads? I see.

Mac: what unexplained pushes did I make?
Raskol: all of them.
Mac: yes, but that's not wolfy.
Raskol:

get real

Like I dunno, we didn't play that many games together, but I associate town!you with that Stormtossed play and it was radically different. Like you were burning the thread to the ground back then.

Your face is a pocket Mac.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:57 am What pushes do I have that are unexplained and what about me is pockety?

Why don't you just admit to the blatant omgus?

lol like every single one of them. Show me where you articulated anything outside NAA (and why this isn't even TMI)

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:20 am This Dolby wagon seems like it was formed from no where with no reason.
Dolby hasn't even made a noteworthy presence this game yet.
Doesn't help I still don't really like Scotty this game, though Mac also is creeping up there. Mostly since their vote and unvote on Dolby doesn't sit right as leaving the vote a tie or 1 difference is basically asking for a last minute wagon snipe to happen. And if you actuality wanted a scum read dead it doesn't make sense to unvote them in that scenario unless you have TMI they weer Town.

We really need to talk lmao.

Syn, Scotty

DrWilgy, Marmot, NAA, HK

Urist, Dya, TSP, Jack, Dunia

Dolby, LP, Mac, Creature

--------------------

Syn, Scotty obv town
DrWilgy I like because of some mindmields (the Urist/dya stuff, stance on Mac's posts); Marmot because he seems careless and inquisitive enough (these switchs on Scotty, voting Dunia because she takes notes etc). I don't like the pushes but they still fit well with town!Marmot to me. NAA just don't give a crap lol and do his stuff. HK same (also no agenda/strong pushes is a town tell for him smh).

Dolby started by going crazy about CFCers towncoring, then posted that him low efforting was townie, then disappeared lmao. I won't die on that hill (happened already lol) but this is > rand scum.
LP because there is a real dichotomy between the stuff being pushed (early posters > rand wolves, HK/Syn fake, Marmot being opportunistic on Scotty) and the energy displayed. Like someone pushed the button a tidy bit too much and I am not vibing. Also I agree with whoever said she was fishing for claims yesterday.
Mac just seems too similar to our last game. Weak unexplained pushes. Feels pocketie again (I am not falling for cereals)
Creature was the first to speak about mechs (in what, 10 posts), but didn't follow up when I gave him the occasion to, which strikes me as too cautious and fishy. The vote on Dolby was awfully opportunistic (I can't say Creature has read anything hence I have a problem with that sort of pilling) too. This is the weakest lead I have because I am conflicted between him being cautious and lacking self-awareness. So I am prolly not ending there.

The rest are nulls rn.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:06 am OK, my one non-meta read: I think Le Petit Poussin is >rand mafia.

Yes but no.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:30 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:47 pm Id bet Ill die from Syns vig shot N2

I don't see why. I town-read you*.

*Commit this to memory so that you can quote it D2 when I reverse my read.

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:45 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:27 pm Have we found a wolf?

Gonna assume Dolby is the caught wolf

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Id bet Ill die from Syns vig shot N2

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:32 pm also I'm going to be that guy saying "dolby is town" with nothing to back it up and be right and then be pushed for TMI tomorrow.

Randomshitposting.gif

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:39 pm I feel like there's an obvious class pick everyone should've gone for here, but not sure if everyone followed my logic n0.

Yeah? Interesting

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:03 pm I'm all in on killing Scotty & Mac, see where we're at after that.

lol this post. I am gonna TR it

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:09 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:39 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:03 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

dw, I'll still kill them N1.

Dyachei is very well-educated, if you're town it would be gamethrowing to kill her regardless of her alignment.

Stop being wolfy

Have a town point for this (like I had the same reaction reading it earlier, and it's hella partnery)

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:15 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:32 pm can someone summarize the scotty case?

His first post was to make a lazy other-game progression read on HK.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:40 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:06 pm ok goodbye I have to eat dinner now

This is the same post progression you made in our last game, in which you were bad

Since then he's supported LinearPoint's case on me and HK (which amounts to "They posted a lot and there is a difference check between them"), but then 180'd on that when other people discredited LP. (First instance of "jumping onto the train late.")

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:53 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:49 pm Alright time to decide which of HK and Syn are the wolf who is putting way to much effort into making a presence off the bat.
I'll bet Syn.

Why not both? Why not zoidberg?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:59 pm LP much too serious this early in the game.

LP is a common orc in a foul swamp, and the merry band of adventures are just trying to quest

Then he quoted Dunia's reads list, which is actually contrary to his own (Dunia has HK as top town), but he says it matches his. Half an hour later he posts his updated reads, which are again, not like Dunia's.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:07 am

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:52 am gth town:
hk
syn
scotty
mac
rask (le petit poussin)

gth LP is mafia with tmi on scotty being town

gth dolby mafia

always yeet urist first

Either you are pocketing me or we have the exact same reads

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:37 am Nah I think dunya town. Ima change up how I approach D1s

Out the gate I’m gonna start trying to identify towntrusts more.
Townreads: Dunya, chicken, Wilgy
Slight Townlean: TSP for his shitty spank post

Then he jumps late onto the train again and pushes the "top posters are wolfy" (HK and me) lazy case, after, again, other people already have.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:58 am Dayachi has some work to do if she’s gonna be NK’d tonight

I also look at the top posters, and I think it unlikely that the top 3 in posters are all town. I’d say 1 are not in: HK, Syn, chicken. One of HK or Syn. I’d lean HK however

Then he tries to say HK has TMI that I'm town (circling back around to his initial wolf read on HK).

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:13 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:09 pm I know the reads are independent, it's just intriguing that multiple people mentioned those two players in the same breath without being related.

Of the 4 high posters (Syn, hk, Scotty, petit), I only TR petit and Scotty atm. I asked Mac to expound on his hk read, but I agree that he does look wolfy. I don't see what Syn has done to deserve a TR, but hk gave him one pretty quickly.

That is a bit of TMI eh

Is this still hearsay and vilification, Scotty?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:08 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:57 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:54 pm [VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Do you have a reason? You never really commented on me outside of the early Scotty read.
And if you think Dunya is Mafia, why assume that I'm the wolf read Dunya is busing if any of them are busses?
Just curious what your progression here is.

I just don't think you have towntold yet. And the way you went after them was a bit theatrical? No progression here.

Like your associative read on Marmot can go either way really.
About dunya: I am not sure about anything. Just didn't like a couple of posts. But then that wagon garnered 2 more votes way too quickly for my tastes.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:57 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:54 pm [VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Do you have a reason? You never really commented on me outside of the early Scotty read.
And if you think Dunya is Mafia, why assume that I'm the wolf read Dunya is busing if any of them are busses?
Just curious what your progression here is.

I just don't think you have towntold yet. And the way you went after them was a bit theatrical? No progression here.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:55 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:51 pm @dunya : It was the comment about me being a tunneler that throw me off. (I prolly read it as "just a tunneler" too)

But since I was about to tunnel you for it, I just feel dumb rn. <3

Also this is moving too fast suddenly. I won't channel my Iawy because that will just strenghten the tunnel.

awww <3

no i meant you tunneled me hard because i was wolf and i hated you in that game and i couldn't kill you lol. but it was a good representation of your convictions when you have a scum read on someone.

i'm not doing it as a full blown meta read, it was only one game, but it is a noticeable difference in aggression ;p

Oh right. let just says I've been wrong enough recently that I am playing it easy mode.

@dunya : It was the comment about me being a tunneler that throw me off. (I prolly read it as "just a tunneler" too)

But since I was about to tunnel you for it, I just feel dumb rn. <3

Also this is moving too fast suddenly. I won't channel my Iawy because that will just strenghten the tunnel.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:57 pm @ urist - w
@ Dolby - w
@ DrWilgy - w
@ Le petit poussin - w
@ LinearPoint - w

havent posted yet or made one nai post:
@ Jackofhearts2005 - ?
@ sig - ?
@ TonyStarkPrime - ?
@ Creature - ?

i feel very good about these town reads:
@ dyachei - t
@ hollowkatt -t
@ MacDougall - t
@ Marmot- t
@ NotAnAxehole- t
@ Scotty - t
@ syn - t

only one in wolf reads i could go back on is urist atm, but yolo. that poopoo head has caused me e m o t i o n a l damage. ;p

You went from misrepresenting me to including me with all the folks I ve been sussing up to this point.

[VOTE: dunia] aubergine

Speaking about disgust

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:07 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:01 pm Le Petit I've hydraed with, been in countless games together, wolfed with and against him, been town against his wolf (I think), and generally there's just a ton of history there, maybe more than anyone else in this thread. I'm not claiming to be a Le Petit god reader. I am claiming to have a lot of insight into how he's going to approach a game and I believe this to be his town game.

i dunno, i think town rask is more aggressive and tunnels---at least that's my experience wit him when i was wolf and he wouldn't let me go ;p

he's been a bit too much "ok then" *unvotes* here for my liking.

i shall continue to observe, but thems the feels.

but you were an obvious wolf! :wowee:

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 2:00 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:55 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:53 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:37 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:07 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:37 pm

Yo Urist outplaying you and it's not even D1. Smh.

I'm gonna town read this and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.

I know why you're dropping this read on him and I think your reasoning is wrong.

The read is correct though.

Whether or not it's correct, it's scum-indicative for hk

It's strictly the opposite lmao

So i'm not allowed to post reads without elaborating, but when hk does it he gets townread. k

you do what you want lol. The difference being that I have a lot of experience with HK and none with you.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:53 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:37 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:07 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:39 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:37 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:19 pmDAMN YOU, URIST.

Yo Urist outplaying you and it's not even D1. Smh.

I'm gonna town read this and there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it.

I know why you're dropping this read on him and I think your reasoning is wrong.

The read is correct though.

Whether or not it's correct, it's scum-indicative for hk

It's strictly the opposite lmao

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:36 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:02 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:49 amHk, mac, naa maf

Can u walk me through these?

It's more of a note to self, i'll elaborate if it becomes mecessary / relevant

imo it's relevant for us, because rn I just don't know if you aren't pulling this out of ur ..s.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:23 pm likes for town:
CFC
Mac
Marmot
NAA

tbh I don't understand NAA one. LIke I just remember tells (about scotty, about the doc) and that post about Mac

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:24 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:23 pm likes for town:
CFC
Mac
Marmot
NAA

who is cfc?

that's code for wolf pack (HK/Syn/Dolby/me). Good times

DId you read anything?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:58 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:53 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:43 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:05 am Has LinearPoint ever played with Syn or HK?

at least one game with me, game of champions 2021. I was 3p with Ilario in that game. Our win condition was either survive or collectively kill two mafia. We collectively killed two mafia and exited the game as winners before the end of the game.

Ok. I was just surprised how she called you and Syn fake right off the bat (how would she know ). Guess it can be real? Do you have a read on this slot?

I don't but I can fake one if it'll make you feel better.

Nope. I'd prolly spot it too and tunnel u for the good of the realm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:43 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:05 am Has LinearPoint ever played with Syn or HK?

at least one game with me, game of champions 2021. I was 3p with Ilario in that game. Our win condition was either survive or collectively kill two mafia. We collectively killed two mafia and exited the game as winners before the end of the game.

Ok. I was just surprised how she called you and Syn fake right off the bat (how would she know ). Guess it can be real? Do you have a read on this slot?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:33 pm I would kill Mac today probably if he continues the current path he's laid out for himself this game so far.

Which path is it?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:00 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:58 pm I guarantee I will correctly read Scotty and Hallowcat.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:30 am Scotty and HK are probably mafia though so that's fun.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:13 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:50 am Dolby (9)

Already too much of a tryhard

Well I am mostly bothered by the fact he seems to root for TRs badly and also liking that Syn's vote. I just don't wanna burry him yet because of recent bad experiences but yeah. lower null on Dolby.

HK and you are my only TRs so far. (rest is null really, this game is starting slowly)

Why is everyone dual-reading HK and Scotty like this?

Its mostly Syn and scotty. Hk is an independant thing for me.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:49 amHk, mac, naa maf

Can u walk me through these?

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:49 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:25 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:56 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:54 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:49 am why is HK a wolf @MacDougall ?

Why is dunya wolf?

Is this a real question?

► Show Spoiler

She hasn't posted lmao. I just like her and wanna summon her here

Is this a real answer?

► Show Spoiler

I figured you had some sort of meta intel on dunya or something

what's meta intel on someone who hasn't checked into the game yet?

I undestood it as he was asking if not checking in early was smh AI for you. And yes, I am withdrawing from such chat lol.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:54 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:49 am why is HK a wolf @MacDougall ?

Why is dunya wolf?

Is this a real question?

also please to report I just noticed Mac's avie was populated of bitches. Mu's is too small for my lacking eyes

why is HK a wolf @MacDougall ?

may I suggest a wagon on the obvious, outed, scum though? aka @Dunya

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:36 am haha i read it similarly to you in that i felt like there was a dichotomy there but i felt like LP was the townier

well I am not discarding it. Hence why I asked about LP's experience with Syn/HK. That opener would be easy to reproduce too for scotty but still leaning that way rn

(seriously, I see him as not caring rn. random shield is also > rand town for him even if easly fakable)