I swear I read this after replying to you @scotty.
lololol
also re the Mac kill: what HK said, in addition to framing the whole damn packet
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I swear I read this after replying to you @scotty.
I dunno tbh. in LP/DOlby/Dya prolly.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:49 am Dunya is the only player that has voted not currently on a wagon.
She’s willingly not choosing to place a vote to save herself on LP because she has expressed vested interest in committing to LP = town.
@Le petit poussin who would you vote for if no one else had voted yet today?
There was a post from him D1 that I had as Dya/urist unpaired but I can't remember rn. (I know ur joking but the occurence is weird)dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:45 amurist tmi'd dya townUrist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:43 amarguments like these are why dunya wins as wolf. this makes no sense. "let's not kill dunya because you wouldn't suspect her if she were actually a wolf" yeah ok.dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pmyou're misunderstanding me
The players who suspect you think they've caught you. So my point is that the things they are wolf reading you for are really level 1 reasons. I don't think that's a good reason to wolf read someone who is very skilled as a wolf. usually means thy're a villager
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oh missed this one. I understand your POV.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:26 amI’m entering it from the question: why would mafia kill mac?Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:20 amI fail to see why you are treated me any different than both HK and you tbh. It's not like Mac said anything convincing outside "Raskol is a wolf". It's not like it got any traction. So, what are you up to heh?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:03 amIf what LP has thought is true, they believe:Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:20 am@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
(well I am kinda joking about this one because it is so blatant - "look I didn't kill Mac")
-Mac was widely scum read by…people. Just from looking through Mac’s iso: (NAA, chicken, urist and LP all weighed in on that)
-killing someone widely scumread is suboptimal
-Syn was someone that Mac found sus?
But why does this particularly look bad for Syn again? Mac basically doesn’t even mention him.
Actually, now that I’ve properly looked through Mac’s iso, he had a mini back and forth with chicken where they were both calling bullshit to each other. Mac even voted chicken for a bit, and then circles back 24 hours later to again call chicken scum.
Earlier on, TSP was someone mac said was wolf, and I didn’t see him change opinion on either.
At the end, mac made clear that HK and myself were wolves, even going so far as to say with his dying breath “sheep me if I die” on HK.
MY CONCLUSION:
-LP’s narrative is that Mac dying looks bad for Syn, because no one scumread Syn (not true btw) and Mac was a suboptimal NK. While I feel this is distracting, and Syn isn’t the one that should have been NK’d, I do agree with LP’s line of thinking that mafia wouldn’t just kill mac for no reason when they’re not at risk of being blocked N1
-Mac’s death actually looks worst for le petit poisson, who Mac came back throughout the day to call wolf.
-Mac’s death looks great for HK imo and to a lesser extent me: an easy frame job that a wolf could point to and go “SEE? SEE? He said HK and Scotty were bad with his dying breath!”
But if you look at the bigger picture, mac was chicken’s biggest detractor throughout the day. Mac could just be a throwaway kill but I’m looking at a different angle: If there’s someone that would want Mac dead, it would be chicken.
-LP floating Syn’s name is just bizarre. It’s an independent thought that Syn looks wolfy ONLY because they weren’t killed because obviously they were the unanimous Townread. That viewpoint is so foreign, it’s on Mars.
Pulling poussin town to scumlean. More to come
I know I’m town, and if HK is wolf, it’s much too on the nose to want to kill mac for that. So I needed to look deeper into the killchoice.
And if it’s not for me or HK…it was you. And to a lesser extent TSP, but mac doesn’t circle around on TSP’s wolfiness throughout the day.
I think you two know each other, and this NK was your decision to not only knock off one of your only detractors, but also to attempt to frame me or HK.
lolololdunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:25 amugh that little chicken shit...Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am All of Mac’s interactions with le petit poussin:The exasperation coming from poussin is palpable. Dunya comments that this argument looks like v/v, and mac questions this.Spoiler: show
In the end, he doesn’t back down that chicken is mafia an hour before EoD. But chicken ain’t getting chopped, so he goes back to the Scotty/HK affair.
I legit think Mac was chicken’s biggest and maybe one of his only detractor(s), and killing mac only helps keep chicken in townland.
@Le petit poussin
"I legit think Mac was chicken’s biggest and maybe one of his only detractor(s), and killing mac only helps keep chicken in townland."Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:21 am All of Mac’s interactions with le petit poussin:The exasperation coming from poussin is palpable. Dunya comments that this argument looks like v/v, and mac questions this.Spoiler: show
In the end, he doesn’t back down that chicken is mafia an hour before EoD. But chicken ain’t getting chopped, so he goes back to the Scotty/HK affair.
I legit think Mac was chicken’s biggest and maybe one of his only detractor(s), and killing mac only helps keep chicken in townland.
I fail to see why you are treated me any different than both HK and you tbh. It's not like Mac said anything convincing outside "Raskol is a wolf". It's not like it got any traction. So, what are you up to heh?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:03 amIf what LP has thought is true, they believe:Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:20 am@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
(well I am kinda joking about this one because it is so blatant - "look I didn't kill Mac")
-Mac was widely scum read by…people. Just from looking through Mac’s iso: (NAA, chicken, urist and LP all weighed in on that)
-killing someone widely scumread is suboptimal
-Syn was someone that Mac found sus?
But why does this particularly look bad for Syn again? Mac basically doesn’t even mention him.
Actually, now that I’ve properly looked through Mac’s iso, he had a mini back and forth with chicken where they were both calling bullshit to each other. Mac even voted chicken for a bit, and then circles back 24 hours later to again call chicken scum.
Earlier on, TSP was someone mac said was wolf, and I didn’t see him change opinion on either.
At the end, mac made clear that HK and myself were wolves, even going so far as to say with his dying breath “sheep me if I die” on HK.
MY CONCLUSION:
-LP’s narrative is that Mac dying looks bad for Syn, because no one scumread Syn (not true btw) and Mac was a suboptimal NK. While I feel this is distracting, and Syn isn’t the one that should have been NK’d, I do agree with LP’s line of thinking that mafia wouldn’t just kill mac for no reason when they’re not at risk of being blocked N1
-Mac’s death actually looks worst for le petit poisson, who Mac came back throughout the day to call wolf.
-Mac’s death looks great for HK imo and to a lesser extent me: an easy frame job that a wolf could point to and go “SEE? SEE? He said HK and Scotty were bad with his dying breath!”
But if you look at the bigger picture, mac was chicken’s biggest detractor throughout the day. Mac could just be a throwaway kill but I’m looking at a different angle: If there’s someone that would want Mac dead, it would be chicken.
-LP floating Syn’s name is just bizarre. It’s an independent thought that Syn looks wolfy ONLY because they weren’t killed because obviously they were the unanimous Townread. That viewpoint is so foreign, it’s on Mars.
Pulling poussin town to scumlean. More to come
for cred?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:49 amthey're in this set:
LP
Jack
Marmot
TSP
Urist
DrWigley
with a side of Dunya sus I can't shake but don't want to believe in.
I think the following are town:
HK obvs
Rask
Syn
Dolby
Scotty
NAA
Dyachei
Sig is a null and I'm assuming if Sig wolf Sig has been prompted numerous times to show up and do something. TSP makes my wolf list b/c he seems somewhat fixated on why sig exists, feels like a pre-associated attempted clear. That assumes Sig flips wolf but if he does TSP looks weird to me for wanting to know why Sig is still alive.
I actually agree with LP's process here (even more so when Dunya linked to some of her previous scum games) but not the conclusions. Like if anything it's Dya who came up with a meta read on dunya, not her who put it upfront first. So who is manipulating who here?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:38 pmMeta is worthless when you just openly admitted that you know how to manipulate your own meta.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:37 pmmeta is kingLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:35 pmNo you're not going to be able to confirmed Town yourself for mislynching day 1 just because you claim you wouldn't do that as Mafia.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:33 pmthat's true, i would never make grave mistakes like spearheading a d1 yeet on a villager as wolf ever. if anyone finds a game where i did that as wolf, you can have an unlimited supply of cookies.dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pmyou're misunderstanding me
The players who suspect you think they've caught you. So my point is that the things they are wolf reading you for are really level 1 reasons. I don't think that's a good reason to wolf read someone who is very skilled as a wolf. usually means thy're a villager
this actually basically makes me IC atp.
who are these players, other than scotty btw?
Best you can do is NAI for that. And really it isn't NAI since you just admitted you knew scum you wouldn't do that meaning you could just have done that knowing it'd clear you.
It's really hard to read you as anything other than Mafia blatantly trying to abuse their own meta right now.
I totally would lmao (the host can confirm - RIP Ivy)dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:33 pmthat's true, i would never make grave mistakes like spearheading a d1 yeet on a villager as wolf ever. if anyone finds a game where i did that as wolf, you can have an unlimited supply of cookies.dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:30 pmyou're misunderstanding me
The players who suspect you think they've caught you. So my point is that the things they are wolf reading you for are really level 1 reasons. I don't think that's a good reason to wolf read someone who is very skilled as a wolf. usually means thy're a villager
this actually basically makes me IC atp.
who are these players, other than scotty btw?
@Syn you have a fan, but she is a wolf. RIPLinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:32 pm Honestly Mac dying does look pretty bad for Syn.
Night 1 was the only night where Mafia was guaranteed their kill cannot be stopped.
Mafia not killing Syn is just a huge question mark and killing Mac is always suboptimal.
@dunyaLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:53 amI was like "yeah". But then why are you assuming there is a wolf in the CFC gang? (buying LP's early game read?)
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:52 amlunch me cos yall are jealous of my pretty hairLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:50 ambut but how are we going to lunch you then???dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:48 am i don't even think drwilgy is scummy yet. he's not particularly townie either, so i'm testing the waters with his manageable iso.
please no one follow me anywhere. like fuck, take responsibility for your votes and vote where you think is wolf and stop with the "i followed dunya there" narrative pls.
but but how are we going to lunch you then???dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:48 am i don't even think drwilgy is scummy yet. he's not particularly townie either, so i'm testing the waters with his manageable iso.
please no one follow me anywhere. like fuck, take responsibility for your votes and vote where you think is wolf and stop with the "i followed dunya there" narrative pls.
ur openwolfing is very reassuring Syn.Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:07 pmhe also died with your and Rask's names on his tonguehollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:06 pm hey scotty, how does it feel to know mac died with your name on his tongue?
Your support was hugely appreciated <3.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:17 amrask back in the HOUSELe petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:12 am Sup, I had a huge family issue last monday and couldn't really focus on this game. I'll do some ketchup now
hi i scumslipped, vote for me
Dunno if u read what I TR you, but its working, good jobNotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:45 amYes. Nothing.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:44 amDidnt you want him dead? If so what changed ur mind?
Didnt you want him dead? If so what changed ur mind?
BRB I AM GOING TO POST CODE TOO. I have that DDR controler I did in VHDL. it will make things easier for everyone I think.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:14 am Ok, here's a read that will seem useless now, but might eventually have some uses. I have compiled 2 lists, both lists contain AT LEAST 1 mafia.
List 1:
LinearPoint
TSP
Mac
Hollowkat
Urist
Le Petit Poisson
List 2:
Dolby
Dunya
Urist
Le Petit Poisson
TSP
Mac
lmao I just realized you have a dog as avie too. Sorry, there were no puns intended or whatever roflLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:06 amthat was a (apparently not obvious enough) joke (the wowee is supposed to represent a dumb dog face - maybe I'll update my avie with it l8r). Because I started the creature wagon, I articulated the read (well not a meta one admittedly since I've never played with him, or maybe one hydra on MU 2 years ago), and I think you at least are town.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:02 amUnbelievable.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:57 am I feel robbed off my creature case. NAA might be right, dunya and scotty might be scum :wowee:
What is actually changing the tide for you? I just want to hear it in writing for later
that was a (apparently not obvious enough) joke (the wowee is supposed to represent a dumb dog face - maybe I'll update my avie with it l8r). Because I started the creature wagon, I articulated the read (well not a meta one admittedly since I've never played with him, or maybe one hydra on MU 2 years ago), and I think you at least are town.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:02 amUnbelievable.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:57 am I feel robbed off my creature case. NAA might be right, dunya and scotty might be scum :wowee:
What is actually changing the tide for you? I just want to hear it in writing for later
I am inclined to think he is making fun of your TMI read.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:35 amI'm actually inclined to think that this is genuine TMI from Scotty as it assumes I'm town.
Because how he sussed HK doesn't make sense unless he is a wifomy player as I said and he is villagery globallydunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:33 amon what basis?Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:31 am I am shielding scotty at this point. It makes like zero sense
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this is scotty's last wolf game ftr.
lmao. yes. lamistdunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:09 am i dont think anyone answered me when i said LP posted a very townie post and asked yall to guess which but this was it:
this is actually LP's towniest post and i was ready to move her to my town pile because of it.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:26 pm Can like any of you stop acting scummy for 2 seconds? It'll make finding scum a lot easier.
Unless I am just the only town posting right now, in which case I feel like Town already lost from inactivity.
am i getting softer with old age?
oh no not again. That's precisaly what annoyed me.Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:53 amdunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:52 amLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:35 am scotty mostly because of his attitude toward LP and Dolby (LP selectively hitting hard on HK/Syn is wolfy) and his TWTBAW opener.Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:39 amwell I am not discarding it. Hence why I asked about LP's experience with Syn/HK. That opener would be easy to reproduce too for scotty but still leaning that way rnMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:36 am haha i read it similarly to you in that i felt like there was a dichotomy there but i felt like LP was the townierLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:53 pmOk. I was just surprised how she called you and Syn fake right off the bat (how would she know ). Guess it can be real? Do you have a read on this slot?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:43 pmat least one game with me, game of champions 2021. I was 3p with Ilario in that game. Our win condition was either survive or collectively kill two mafia. We collectively killed two mafia and exited the game as winners before the end of the game.
Rask focused on LP quite a bit in the beginning and the posts are really uninspiring --- a heavy singling out of LP in a way i feel is strange for someone to scumread when they've never played with them before. how is calling someone "fake" impossible to do when you've never played with them, when rask is doing exactly that himself?
then he justifies his vote on her because she hasn't "towntold" yet?? how is someone supposed to town tell when you don't know what their town tells are?
there's something bizarre in rask / LP relationship and feels like TMI from rask or partnership. that is my biggest gripe with rask at this moment. i dunno if w!rask is a busser?Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:08 pmI just don't think you have towntold yet. And the way you went after them was a bit theatrical? No progression here.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 3:57 pmDo you have a reason? You never really commented on me outside of the early Scotty read.
And if you think Dunya is Mafia, why assume that I'm the wolf read Dunya is busing if any of them are busses?
Just curious what your progression here is.
can others weigh in on this?
Isn't Rask a tunneler? I thought I had read that somewhere early on in the day.
ok, I apparently didn't use enough or the right words.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:40 amwhat is the relationship between a 5 vote wagon on me and americans being awakeLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:04 amI mean the thread becoming so active might as well be related to Americans waking up or somethingdunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:46 amWhat do u mean timezone thing?Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:50 am Yeah there was a thread kind of a thread acceleration when dunia was under the spotlight but I am not sure it wasnt just a timezone thing. That comment from Urist was just so lamist and felt odd timing wise (that is something u expect to be said closer to eod). Like dolby/urist unpaired
who do you think was pushing me the most?
I mean the thread becoming so active might as well be related to Americans waking up or somethingdunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:46 amWhat do u mean timezone thing?Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:50 am Yeah there was a thread kind of a thread acceleration when dunia was under the spotlight but I am not sure it wasnt just a timezone thing. That comment from Urist was just so lamist and felt odd timing wise (that is something u expect to be said closer to eod). Like dolby/urist unpaired
hypehypehype. I'll be fully devoted to you next time. I might actually listen to what you saydunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:32 amHype!!!! No more leaving me alone while u go and do drugsLe petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:51 am I just got pills to quit smoking btw. I will prolly be high for the rest of the game. Enjoy or perish
Did u find what it was? (Because it s a big sad considering the efforts we made to look not partners )