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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:23 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Here's my guess for the real playerlist: DrWilgy falcon G-Man ilario Lilypetal Michelle Nanook Neon nutella Porscha pyxxy Ricochet Rondo Scotty Seanzie sprityo Vivax Some of these I'm really shaky on and don't know that well so they might be obviously wrong, and there were some super borderline slo...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:20 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Here's my guess for the real playerlist: DrWilgy falcon G-Man ilario Lilypetal Michelle Nanook Neon nutella Porscha pyxxy Ricochet Rondo Scotty Seanzie sprityo Vivax Some of these I'm really shaky on and don't know that well so they might be obviously wrong, and there were some super borderline slot...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:02 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 1 Vote Count SoD: #0 EoD: #2658 Not Voting (11): MacDougall (28), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (13), Lilypetal (15), SilverKeith (44), Inawordyes (11), Michelle (42), JaggedJimmyJay (30), risiinq- (39), sabie12 (2), Fext (5), Porscha (47) golden (8): DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), Dyslexicon...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:53 am
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Ran wagon is funny because in this whole playerlist ran is like one of the most >>rand NPC pre-rand slots in the game and she's really not played any differently than the way I would expect an NPC ran to play. Like maybe this is one of the few games that Ran decided she would play - but I just reall...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:50 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 3 Vote Count SoD: #3945 EoD: #0 Not Voting (16): MacDougall (7), katze (35), Lumi (26), Sloonei (6), DrWilgy (10), Jackofhearts2005 (13), c4e5g3d5 (3), G-Man (2), pyxxy (10), Lilypetal (27), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (5), falcon45ca (4), JaggedJimmyJay (5), sprityo (5) drwilgy (4):...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 4:07 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:57 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:57 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:56 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
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- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:52 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Day 3 Vote Count SoD: #3945 EoD: #0 Not Voting (18): MacDougall (7), katze (32), Lumi (21), Sloonei (6), DrWilgy (10), Jackofhearts2005 (13), Porscha (28), c4e5g3d5 (3), G-Man (2), pyxxy (8), Lilypetal (27), Inawordyes (5), Guillotine (2), Marmot (5), falcon45ca (4), JaggedJimmyJay (4), sprityo (5)...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:44 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
IMO the most surefire way to find players is to target the slots that are >rand to sign for games in a vacuum but also seem to be trying to fly under the radar. I also kind of extremely strongly disagree with the sentiments of "minposting with no content = kill them" Because part of town's...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:37 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@Lumi As i see it mafia optimum strat to work out the plauer list would be to stack first and second wagons bkth day Nd see who dies. They have the numbers to decrease the pool and control the lunch/work out the player list Flip side- they also have the risk that kf they do that the plauers may cot...
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:32 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@Lumi As i see it mafia optimum strat to work out the plauer list would be to stack first and second wagons bkth day Nd see who dies. They have the numbers to decrease the pool and control the lunch/work out the player list Flip side- they also have the risk that kf they do that the plauers may cot...
- Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:19 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:05 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:03 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:01 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:57 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Oh neat, rabbit got the script working. My job here is done B)
- Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:57 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Not Voting (15): MacDougall (7), katze (18), Lumi (12), Sloonei (5), DrWilgy (6), Jackofhearts2005 (13), Porscha (28), c4e5g3d5 (3), G-Man (2), pyxxy (2), Lilypetal (26), Inawordyes (2), Guillotine (2), Marmot (5), falcon45ca (4) ranmilia (2): iaafr (52), RondoDimBuckle (32) drwilgy (5): nutella (58...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:26 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Going to dinner now, cya all
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:26 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
thank you luminous You think nerds are cute? :flushed: 😳 um... see me after class? 👉👈 Felt kinda cute, took a quick selfie, how do I look? 🥺👉👈 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688212792075092003/839448949759672340/image0-38-1.gif 🥵🥵🥵 omg ur... rly cute..................... https://media.ten...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:24 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Not Voting (4): MacDougall (4), katze (9), nutella (3), Lumi (9)
scotty (2): iaafr (12), EnderWiggin (8)
iaafr (1): santygrass (14)
michelle (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1)
scotty (2): iaafr (12), EnderWiggin (8)
iaafr (1): santygrass (14)
michelle (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1)
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:23 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:20 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Not Voting (4): MacDougall (4), katze (7), nutella (3), Lumi (7)
scotty (2): iaafr (11), EnderWiggin (7)
iaafr (1): santygrass (9)
scotty (2): iaafr (11), EnderWiggin (7)
iaafr (1): santygrass (9)
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:18 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:16 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
- Replies: 8606
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Not Voting (7): MacDougall (4), iaafr (8), katze (5), nutella (3), santygrass (6), Lumi (5), EnderWiggin (3)
you're welcome
you're welcome
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:15 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Going to wolfside a little :joy_cat: Here's a hint mafia: the real players are >rand going to be low posting. The NPCs that know they'll die early and can just shit out posts for fun are more likely to be the high volume slots early on, the real players are the ones that are conserving their energy...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:13 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Going to wolfside a little :joy_cat: Here's a hint mafia: the real players are >rand going to be low posting. The NPCs that know they'll die early and can just shit out posts for fun are more likely to be the high volume slots early on, the real players are the ones that are conserving their energy...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:11 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Going to wolfside a little :joy_cat: Here's a hint mafia: the real players are >rand going to be low posting. The NPCs that know they'll die early and can just shit out posts for fun are more likely to be the high volume slots early on, the real players are the ones that are conserving their energy ...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:08 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Ya these mafia kills have been really dumb target-wisesantygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:07 pm I dont understand why mafia didnt kill any real player yet
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:07 pm
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
People that were having technical difficulties with my script - I'm not sure why you were having the issues, I've been busy at work too so I wasn't around to help debug.
Anyway, how many are left now, 36?
Almost a 19 NPCs and 17 players. Neat.
Anyway, how many are left now, 36?
Almost a 19 NPCs and 17 players. Neat.
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:59 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Iso Machine broke, lets make a list first [Not Voting] Katze C4 Sloonei JJJ Lumi G-Man Riisinq Hally Porscha Inawordyes Drwilgy Windward Scotty [Voting] Marmot Spirityo Iaafr Nutella Lilypetal Guillotine Pyxxyy Dezees Seanzie Vivax Santygrass Manny Nanook Hollowkatt Ranmillia Chelsea Creature Jacko...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:50 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:47 pm Lumi do you have any reads tbh?
Or are you roleplaying as Modbot?
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:43 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Hi, it's me, the modbot LARPer Here for my regularly scheduled fixed votecount post! Not Voting (14): MacDougall (6), katze (35), c4e5g3d5 (2), Sloonei (8), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (32), G-Man (2), risiinq- (3), Hally (3), Porscha (10), Inawordyes (6), DrWilgy (3), WindwardAway (4), Scotty (5) mar...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:31 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Hi, it's me, the modbot LARPer Here for my regularly scheduled fixed votecount post! Not Voting (14): MacDougall (6), katze (35), c4e5g3d5 (2), Sloonei (8), JaggedJimmyJay (5), Lumi (32), G-Man (2), risiinq- (3), Hally (3), Porscha (10), Inawordyes (6), DrWilgy (3), WindwardAway (4), Scotty (5) marm...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:30 pm
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:41 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Okay I feel really low level dumb for making the dumb altf4 joke now. Also, fun fact, you were the first person I ever factional killed as wolf. I remember that game. I nabbed your Godfather D1 and then died and watched the game get lost. Credit to C4 (the godfather) giving the advice to kill you N...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:28 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Also, fun fact, you were the first person I ever factional killed as wolf.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:26 am Okay I feel really low level dumb for making the dumb altf4 joke now.
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:27 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I liked the jokeEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:26 am Okay I feel really low level dumb for making the dumb altf4 joke now.
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:21 am
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- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:18 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
I'll probably finish some basic UI to make it user friendly by EoD 2.
I just don't want to deal with CSS
I just don't want to deal with CSS
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:17 am
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- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Just installed firefox and got it running from Firefox. When you press the hotkeys you have to press them both at the same time, if you press alt first followed by C or V then you'll end up in the menus, but if you hit them at the same time it should work. Hitting Alt + 1 is a good way to test if yo...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:16 am
- Forum: Previous Sit Downs
- Topic: Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
// ==UserScript== // @name Secret Playerlist Vote Counter // @namespace mailto:luminouslag@gmail.com // @version 1.0 // @description Automatic Vote Counting for Secret Plyerlist Mafia game on The Syndicate // @author Lumi // @match https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?* // @icon https://www....
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:08 am
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- Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:56 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Also do you gots any reads? Yes, but I have no win-con so you'll have to bribe me if you want to hear them. Path of the NPC. And also my reads are probably garbage anyway because why would someone hardly reading the game and just using it as a coding + shitposting exercise have good reads here? Lik...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:53 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic ... 93#p991393
Working on V2.0 which will have a UI rather than just hotkeys, but no promises on v2.0 ever actually finishing
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:51 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
If people could just use the script themselves, :joy_cat: It's not hard, I can even provide help if you get stuck :joy_cat: Not Voting (14): MacDougall (4), katze (21), c4e5g3d5 (2), nutella (1), Vivax (7), Sloonei (1), Jackofhearts2005 (12), JaggedJimmyJay (4), Lumi (18), G-Man (2), risiinq- (3), ...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:50 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
@Porscha If NPC were an emoji, what emoji would it be? https://freepngimg.com/download/icon/1000311-angel-halo-emoji-[download-iphone-emojis]-icon-free-photo.png Live re-enactment of me getting my rand: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016386693315690676/1049581463659622430/image.png AAAH WH...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 6:47 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
If people could just use the script themselves, :joy_cat: It's not hard, I can even provide help if you get stuck :joy_cat: Not Voting (14): MacDougall (4), katze (21), c4e5g3d5 (2), nutella (1), Vivax (7), Sloonei (1), Jackofhearts2005 (12), JaggedJimmyJay (4), Lumi (18), G-Man (2), risiinq- (3), R...
- Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:11 am
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Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
even though i hate him you should prolly add SK to the masonry he is an npc like us. :thinking: SK, is it true, are you a mason? I mean, I'm an NPC, yeah, Manny is right about that one, but what guarantee is there for me that there aren't wolves already in the masonry, huh? If you're an NPC, then w...