The Syndicate

Yay thanks gg

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:32 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:31 pm I rather Rondo be town leader than Mac tbh
Ouch. Thanks.

That's actually an insane remark to make rn lmfao

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:31 pm If you think achro is town
and you don't have a good place to be voting
and you aren't sure Ender is town

you should be voting Ender imo

*sucks teeth* aaaaah fuck man

I dont think I'll be able to be around for eod cuz I gotta drive shortly

I'll just stick it on ender and hope for the best

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:27 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:19 pm I don't think I've been particularly lazy in thread

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:13 pm

Which part? The specific Ender/Nanookness of the post, or me wanting Nanook?

Ender/Nanook comes from Achromatic having put those names forward and the people seem to push more towards Ender.

Nanook's actions remind me a lot of how Nanook plays as scum sometimes. He is being overly generous to NAA to pocket NAA, his pushes are meh, moving votes seemingly more to avoid sus and push opporunistically than seeming to care about where he was voting.

Earlier D2 when I came in the thread, him moving off me onto Porscha I think pinged me, and just now he had another movement that pinged me. He can be lazy IiT as either alignment, but there are certain things he does more as scum than town and I think I'm seeing those things.
Sure but you havent been exactly helpful [VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine
I've given my reads and I voted mafia d1, I've done my job
Nook has posted and with thorough thoughts like 3x as much as he has in the last 3 games I've played with him combined and I think I still TL him but I'm mildly worried hes trying harder cuz he isnt town so I'd need to spend time through ISO but I remember liking his back and forth with achro earlier in the day
Nanook was about this townie in the em game we just played tbh.
Was it a game I was in
... no I wasn't implying it was I was giving you more info

Ok wasnt sure, thanks I'll wait to put on the tinfoil

God I really dont know if ender is a hit I'm a trash can at reading them the couple times we have played but they seemed to be consistent in the dizzy read and felt confident earlier is this also doable in ender's wolf range?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:19 pm I don't think I've been particularly lazy in thread

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:13 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:52 pm I'm not going to fight an Ender wagon, but kinda want Nanook more.
Where'd that come from?
Which part? The specific Ender/Nanookness of the post, or me wanting Nanook?

Ender/Nanook comes from Achromatic having put those names forward and the people seem to push more towards Ender.

Nanook's actions remind me a lot of how Nanook plays as scum sometimes. He is being overly generous to NAA to pocket NAA, his pushes are meh, moving votes seemingly more to avoid sus and push opporunistically than seeming to care about where he was voting.

Earlier D2 when I came in the thread, him moving off me onto Porscha I think pinged me, and just now he had another movement that pinged me. He can be lazy IiT as either alignment, but there are certain things he does more as scum than town and I think I'm seeing those things.
Sure but you havent been exactly helpful [VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine
I've given my reads and I voted mafia d1, I've done my job
Nook has posted and with thorough thoughts like 3x as much as he has in the last 3 games I've played with him combined and I think I still TL him but I'm mildly worried hes trying harder cuz he isnt town so I'd need to spend time through ISO but I remember liking his back and forth with achro earlier in the day
Seems like a lot of nothing sauce.

Only funny cuz it's coming from you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:27 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:19 pm I don't think I've been particularly lazy in thread

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:13 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:52 pm I'm not going to fight an Ender wagon, but kinda want Nanook more.
Where'd that come from?
Which part? The specific Ender/Nanookness of the post, or me wanting Nanook?

Ender/Nanook comes from Achromatic having put those names forward and the people seem to push more towards Ender.

Nanook's actions remind me a lot of how Nanook plays as scum sometimes. He is being overly generous to NAA to pocket NAA, his pushes are meh, moving votes seemingly more to avoid sus and push opporunistically than seeming to care about where he was voting.

Earlier D2 when I came in the thread, him moving off me onto Porscha I think pinged me, and just now he had another movement that pinged me. He can be lazy IiT as either alignment, but there are certain things he does more as scum than town and I think I'm seeing those things.
Sure but you havent been exactly helpful [VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine
I've given my reads and I voted mafia d1, I've done my job
Nook has posted and with thorough thoughts like 3x as much as he has in the last 3 games I've played with him combined and I think I still TL him but I'm mildly worried hes trying harder cuz he isnt town so I'd need to spend time through ISO but I remember liking his back and forth with achro earlier in the day
Nanook was about this townie in the em game we just played tbh.

Was it a game I was in

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:19 pm I don't think I've been particularly lazy in thread

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:13 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:52 pm I'm not going to fight an Ender wagon, but kinda want Nanook more.
Where'd that come from?
Which part? The specific Ender/Nanookness of the post, or me wanting Nanook?

Ender/Nanook comes from Achromatic having put those names forward and the people seem to push more towards Ender.

Nanook's actions remind me a lot of how Nanook plays as scum sometimes. He is being overly generous to NAA to pocket NAA, his pushes are meh, moving votes seemingly more to avoid sus and push opporunistically than seeming to care about where he was voting.

Earlier D2 when I came in the thread, him moving off me onto Porscha I think pinged me, and just now he had another movement that pinged me. He can be lazy IiT as either alignment, but there are certain things he does more as scum than town and I think I'm seeing those things.
Sure but you havent been exactly helpful [VOTE: Nanook ] aubergine
I've given my reads and I voted mafia d1, I've done my job

Nook has posted and with thorough thoughts like 3x as much as he has in the last 3 games I've played with him combined and I think I still TL him but I'm mildly worried hes trying harder cuz he isnt town so I'd need to spend time through ISO but I remember liking his back and forth with achro earlier in the day

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:08 pm Hi @Porscha and @lucy

Hi mom how are you today

Is eod in 10 mins or 40 mins

Vivax wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:47 pm
Spoiler: show
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:30 am alright good news is I didn't skip anything

bad news is I did almost of this reading while high and it is now past 3am

here is quick group list before I sleep

Pretty equally TR'D:
mac - fuck you guys I'm never rescinding this read out of spite
lucy - think the interactions with tommy just spew them town and regardless of that, lucy strong TR for me on their own merit
rondo - pretty sure i'm seeing town rondo repeatedly right now. strong on brand rondo
sabi - can't explain it just obv town sabi for me

TL:
nook - casual self
vivax - confuses me sometimes but seems genuine
wilgy - think day 1 reads are a little wack but the way he went about attempting it came off as t!wilgy to me
dizzy - seems confident and playing on brand

Unsure leveled into POE:
achro - makes a few good points but their interactions with others from a broader viewpoint kinda throw me off and I almost feel like there is an agenda that I can't put my finger on, unsure if hallucinating at this point
flanders - ate a little towny but hate the tunnel on me for IRL reasons out of my control. aggressive is not generally the motto for t!flanders in my experience
seanzie - playstyle meta tells me town, low-post-count-meta tells me not town, need to see more
ender - agreed with mac that ender usually has a certain way about him when he's town that isn't really being exhibited here and it may be alignment indicative
NAA - never knew what to do with NAA, never will, just always okay with this slot being yeeted until further notice

This is why I'm not a fan of readslists like these, they're often from mafia doing a token effort after being away for the thread for too long. Porscha didn't place a vote either at the end of it.
Would be NAI on its content but making one in this context looks a tad skoomy as it's easier for town to just sheep and post relaxedly without being afraid of looking like doing too little.

It's the saner play to go Porscha, probably.

Then here she was replying to the wrong post, It was a Sabi -> Rondo question but Por felt like it was directed at her so that's nervous-y

Spoiler: show
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:52 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:48 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:45 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:33 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:23 pm

Because I'm kinda lost at what direction to go. I thought I had something irt Sean but that was not it.
why was that not it?

why are you panicked about what direction to take after a wolf flip and no nk?

thats literally why you're suspicious...
I'm not panicked. I'm lost at where to find partners.

Sean town told coming back into the game.
can you walk me through the town tell since you know Seanzie better than me?
Jesus fucking christ just read the game
?? i have my own way of determining sean alignment, I want to know yours

Sorry I'm trying to quick scan before eod and I'm not home but this is such a reach. You have only played with me once before vivax but I am not a big vote hopper and almost always wait until later in the day to place a vote (hence why I sometimes dont vote cuz I miss eod) / place a placeholder vote just in case I dont make it back. I caught up over TWENTY FIVE pages worth of reading after work up until 3:30am with plenty of day time left. I'm not making a vote there when i have time and a clear mind to follow after numbing it for 5 hours catching up. just because I bothered trying to organize my thoughts of the game state at the end of my catch up doesnt mean I'm obligated to place a vote immediately after.

Additionally, there is literally no panic when it comes to determining Sean's alignment. I didnt recall seeing sabi's reasoning for the Sean read and though I have my own way of determining Sean I wanted to know hers. Imagine being accused of being nervous everytime you interject with a question that wasnt spoken directly to you. Game would never get fuck all anywhere and these reasons from you especially annoy me because I think you're capable of better reasoning than this

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:32 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:32 pm [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine
fair, I guess

I have a mental picture of mac slapping your hand via vote

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:11 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:18 pm I have never seen someone as either alignment handle their situation as well as porscha is. It's insane. Not a drip of snark or sorrow. No negativity. Good humour. My gosh. We could all learn from Porscha.
i'm blushing uwu (unsure of what we are learning tho)
How to handle being suspected in a game of mafia with dignity and not hurting people's feelings?
No, I just signed in and had notifications, so I checked them.
And Porscha was mean to me, twice. I totally deserved it, and completely bought her tone, but Porscha -

I CAN COUNT, AND ADD.

So she's not the angel you claim, but I'm happy to stay on Wilgy and am leaning more null / townish on Porscha now.

you did quite literally miscount within single digits tbf lmfao

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:57 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:55 pm @Sabiplz you say your emotional reaction comes from a lack of confidence?

Earlier this day you said you were confident Seanzie is a hit. What changed?
I think she said it was cuz other ppl weren't seeing the wolf sean she saw and she values those opinions highly enough to think she's just wrong
When I'm pushing you as partners it's probably a good idea to let her speak for herself lol.

she always will but she is also predictable and I don't feel the need to avoid discussing her reactions

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:55 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:52 pm ...

I blame achro
this is a joke achro plz don't get upset lol
tbf I think achro has shown plenty of patience and restraint (more than I would) so I don't think you need to worry about making a lil joke about them

Porscha have we played together before

uh I guess the only time would have been in the president's game lol. I was specifically referring to this game though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:48 pm Sabi overtly wanted to push off Porscha at one point. I told her I wanted Porscha and her reaction was to say her catch up was mid but let's see how she is d3. I insisted and she immediately dropped the shield and voted. This coincided with her unravelling emotionally. She got particularly upset when Rondo called her out because she had already voted Porscha.

I can easily see Sabi being emotional because I baited her into voting her teammate and then Rondo gave her no credit for it. It would be a very very emotionally frustrating thing for wolf Sabi to deal with.

I think you make a good point and it's possible, but posts like these made me feel like there is a distinction between her wolf ate and town ate:

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:15 am Like there are zero worlds where town!Sabi doesn't acutely remember me accusing her of tmi.
Lmao I love this, two games in a world where you tunnel and conf bias me and i will flip town again. You still won't learn your lesson.

Do you ever want me to play on the syndicate because you really don't make this site fun to play on.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:09 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:08 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:57 pm There's like 18 people viewing the thread and none of them are talking to me. This is like an awkward highschool dance all over again.
Back read what you missed and give me your thoughts on achro x Mac, acro x lucy, and Rondo x Mac.
but not Rondo x you or mac x you?
I feel like asking him to give me reads about my interactions would taint it. If others asked it would be cool. I don't like tainting reads on myself.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:13 am I love Rondo free spirit with the random votes. Every post of his I try to guess if he votes someone in it before I look at it. But yea, he's been a delight to read this game

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:34 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:22 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:19 am To avoid polluting the thread with my "ate" I will just scream in my server that I use as a void whenever Sean tunnels me and just not respond to him.

Is that better for everyone?
just be smug in your knowledge he is about to look really dumb. Thats what I do when people tunnel me. Frustration could mean that he is right for the wrong reasons and you are getting upset about that? Thoughts?
I get frustrated when I'm conf bias a lot more when I'm Town Than mafia because I like to think I'm easy to read. So it's like why can't you read me, I'm easy

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:53 am Kinda don't like that achro can't make a read on me without it being partnered/associated with someone else. I can't have an independent read like others have. I'm an individual, give me my read that isn't shoehorned in someone's else reads.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:41 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:30 pm I like how both sabi and axe come in and like aww man I wanted to give someone a chance day 1

Meanwhile, achro:
Because I felt like I had a shitty D1 for giving mafia a D1 pass because it was his first forum game. Literally as soon as that flip happened I cringed and hated myself

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:26 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:26 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:01 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:59 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:05 pm I guess I should sheep Mac and Vivax on to Nook

But I want to read more

And I don't want to put Nook on hammer zone.

But mentally my vote is on Nook for the time being
Hammer is 8 this is weird to me
I thought it was 6
says 8 in the poll
I mis read.

THERE YOU GO, I SCUM SLIPPED.

I'M OUTTED WOLF BECAUSE I MISREAD 8 AND 6

I don't think she says some of these things or has this headspace as wolf

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:40 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:36 pm The reason I told Sabi earlier I wanted to chop Porscha was because I had specific reason to feel like they were paired. Rondo has had similar pings. They've both done well projecting town but inside of it they have also both reinforced my suspicion that they're teammates by the way they've dealt with each other.
Theatre?
Without going into detail. I felt like Sabi's main goal today has been to figure out who outside of Porscha is viable and her emotionally heightened state is a reflection of desperately not wanting to lose her last teammate.

Porscha has been super townie sounding but has been focused on Sabi, questioning why people think of Sabi the way that they do etc... then just now she snuck her into the towncore.

it was not snuck in, sabi was already in my own personal towncore:

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:30 am alright good news is I didn't skip anything

bad news is I did almost of this reading while high and it is now past 3am

here is quick group list before I sleep

Pretty equally TR'D:
mac - fuck you guys I'm never rescinding this read out of spite
lucy - think the interactions with tommy just spew them town and regardless of that, lucy strong TR for me on their own merit
rondo - pretty sure i'm seeing town rondo repeatedly right now. strong on brand rondo
sabi - can't explain it just obv town sabi for me

TL:
nook - casual self
vivax - confuses me sometimes but seems genuine
wilgy - think day 1 reads are a little wack but the way he went about attempting it came off as t!wilgy to me
dizzy - seems confident and playing on brand

Unsure leveled into POE:
achro - makes a few good points but their interactions with others from a broader viewpoint kinda throw me off and I almost feel like there is an agenda that I can't put my finger on, unsure if hallucinating at this point
flanders - ate a little towny but hate the tunnel on me for IRL reasons out of my control. aggressive is not generally the motto for t!flanders in my experience
seanzie - playstyle meta tells me town, low-post-count-meta tells me not town, need to see more
ender - agreed with mac that ender usually has a certain way about him when he's town that isn't really being exhibited here and it may be alignment indicative
NAA - never knew what to do with NAA, never will, just always okay with this slot being yeeted until further notice

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:36 pm The reason I told Sabi earlier I wanted to chop Porscha was because I had specific reason to feel like they were paired. Rondo has had similar pings. They've both done well projecting town but inside of it they have also both reinforced my suspicion that they're teammates by the way they've dealt with each other.

I don't think she has interacted with me much at all this game iirc, but I like to drop reminders to her that she doesn't have to hate herself when she plays this game so she can relax more and play with more clarity. with the way she has responded to some pushes and questions I see it as sabi town meta and I'd like for her to be happier playing this god forsaken game because I don't want her to drown when it's only day 2

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:18 pm I have never seen someone as either alignment handle their situation as well as porscha is. It's insane. Not a drip of snark or sorrow. No negativity. Good humour. My gosh. We could all learn from Porscha.

i'm blushing uwu (unsure of what we are learning tho)

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:12 pm Idk I have yet to see anyone actually tell me dizzy's back track of their day 1 read of sabi feels genuine from the post I highlighted earlier. Dizzy wasn't saying 'after the flip I feel worse' she was saying 'I exaggerated my day 1 read of you' which really doesn't feel like it fits when I iso'd her sabi points and feels like a perspective slip. I know I am at times insufferable and a one note drum but there are only two wolves left if I am right about one that's 50% of the game.

At the very least I would like more eyes on my case to tell me why I am mislooking.

mm yeah it's possible it's a perspective slip, but if it's w!dizzy here then wouldn't she just like ... made it easier on herself by just telling sabi "oh yeah you're in my list to" and have it get blown over? why go through the trouble of an explanation like this? iirc I've seen dizzy try to bait before and maybe that's what it was? I just don't get why a wolf wouldn't just take the easy way out and move on instead of having a specific read like that

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:03 pm I'm mad at myself because everyone seems like they have a solid grasp at this game and I don't.

hey man you're allowed to feel uncertain, that's like 98.2% of the game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:57 pm Let's be honest we all spend untold hours playing a game that'd be boring to most children. Child is a compliment to whatever subhumans we are.

every day my boyfriend (who first got me into mafia thru sc2 maf) tells me he doesn't understand why I enjoy this and I really have no rebuttal. makes me chuckle

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:55 pm @Sabiplz you say your emotional reaction comes from a lack of confidence?

Earlier this day you said you were confident Seanzie is a hit. What changed?

I think she said it was cuz other ppl weren't seeing the wolf sean she saw and she values those opinions highly enough to think she's just wrong

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:56 pm @NotAnAxehole I'm pretty down with the fun chop you floated earlier.

but... why

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:52 pm ...

I blame achro
this is a joke achro plz don't get upset lol

tbf I think achro has shown plenty of patience and restraint (more than I would) so I don't think you need to worry about making a lil joke about them

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:48 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:45 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:33 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:19 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:14 pm

Go on. Tell me why you doubt me
You've just come across kinda desperate and panicked at times.
Because I'm kinda lost at what direction to go. I thought I had something irt Sean but that was not it.
why was that not it?

why are you panicked about what direction to take after a wolf flip and no nk?

thats literally why you're suspicious...
I'm not panicked. I'm lost at where to find partners.

Sean town told coming back into the game.
can you walk me through the town tell since you know Seanzie better than me?
Jesus fucking christ just read the game

?? i have my own way of determining sean alignment, I want to know yours

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:44 pm damn it Porscha why has all your content been specifically crafted to make me like you lol

I have unlocked a new mafia achievement: mac likes your posts

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:35 pm You know what [VOTE: Lucy ] aubergine

dont like the lucy logic either since i'm of the opinion it's more likely a doc saved the kill but i'm not sure this is the wave gamer

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:39 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:38 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:16 pm Like that is the opposite of optimal play
lock clears a person, if they are scum then lock clear scum, if they are town then they'll never be watched or protected again meaning no harm in killing them without worrying about watchers/docs
this is only under the assumption there is for sure a rb'er in game? what info makes you think that
Why are you trying to bait my claim?

you're very funny axe

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:32 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:27 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:28 pm Is anyone even suspecting sabi really.

Anyway porscha you seem very suspected right now. I would like you to amaze.
idk maybe if it was like day 4 and no wolves were lynched i'd turbo the flames because it would matter, but right now i'm just out of fuel and I think there is a solid consensus on a town core between mac lucy/sabi/mac/rondo and unless one of them is doing a good job deep wolfing then I'm just not worried even if i'm mislynched
is there a reason you towncore me when @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME does not?

skill gap

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:29 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:27 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:28 pm Is anyone even suspecting sabi really.

Anyway porscha you seem very suspected right now. I would like you to amaze.
idk maybe if it was like day 4 and no wolves were lynched i'd turbo the flames because it would matter, but right now i'm just out of fuel and I think there is a solid consensus on a town core between mac lucy/sabi/mac/rondo and unless one of them is doing a good job deep wolfing then I'm just not worried even if i'm mislynched
I don't think there's consensus on that towncore. Why do you place Sabi in the list?

yeah I mean ppl can be like "oooh if mac makes it f3 we kill him" but I think most people have you town from your day 1 play and tommy spew
I also put sabi in the list because I don't believe anyone is sincerely scum reading her despite gentle nudges. her exaggerated responses might make it appear she's being pushed around but I really don't see that she is, and while I think she's always sort of that way, some of her posts pinged me that it's her town feelings coming out

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:31 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:56 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:51 pm Wilgy has a real life that's quite rich. Family, career etc. There's no use reading into it.

I thought he was a lil bit townie while he was here albeit brief. He is in POE getting poer, but I still feel like Porscha is a more logical flip to get. Pending Achro explaining the townslip.
Question:

If Porscha flips w, then who next

If Porscha flips V, then who next
Porscha wolf flip probably leads to Wilgy. V flip to Dizzy as Porscha v would encourage me to follow Achro's case on Dizzy which is at least somewhat contingent on Porscha being v.
i'm confused as to how wilgy or dizzy is related to me in this, why would I be pushing you to go on dizzy
He is saying the game state of you flipping v would have him liking dizzy case more. Not you personally.

oh oh okay I misread I see now, thanks

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:04 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:59 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:51 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:42 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:37 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:33 pm

why was that not it?

why are you panicked about what direction to take after a wolf flip and no nk?

thats literally why you're suspicious...
I'm not panicked. I'm lost at where to find partners.

Sean town told coming back into the game.
How did I towntell?
Why do you pop in so randomly
I've been following the thread pretty much regularly today since I came into it. How did I towntell? Why did you dodge this question?
I didn't dodge.

You not wanting achro to defend you was towny. You being at 150% was towny.

It's just vibes
I don't think people usually describe vibe reads as someone towntelling. Towntelling is usually reserved for strong reads on slots, vibes are not.

Perhaps instead it is that you saw others back off me when I entered the thread and tried to blend in by backing off your push as well.

typical sean paranoia but do you really think sabi could be playing you here or is this just for show

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:28 pm Is anyone even suspecting sabi really.

Anyway porscha you seem very suspected right now. I would like you to amaze.

idk maybe if it was like day 4 and no wolves were lynched i'd turbo the flames because it would matter, but right now i'm just out of fuel and I think there is a solid consensus on a town core between mac lucy/sabi/mac/rondo and unless one of them is doing a good job deep wolfing then I'm just not worried even if i'm mislynched

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:21 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:22 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:05 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:57 pmI'm lost lol
I was thinking we should just flip Porscha here. Thoughts?
Maybe Wilgz if he doesn't show up today
Not Porscha?
Her catch up was pretty mid. Let's see if d3 is any better idk
Porcha + Sabi, trying to drag her one more day forward?

props to anyone who tries to drag me, feeling pretty heavy atm. start working out

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:06 pm Catching up I can see a Nook + Archo world anyone else seeing that?

I guess it's possible but I don't really feel like the interactions were w/w

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:55 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:56 pm If it's not Sean, it's Porscha but Porscha catch up was meh but like idk if I want to go there because what info would we get out of that. I'm just confused because ahhhhh
I agree with this I was expecting so much more from Porcha and it was just a deflated balloon of nothing burger

i'm tired and just not that worried honestly. I think we're in a good spot and I don't need to come take up the charge of some dead thread since it's plenty lively and full of good interactions

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:42 pm My judgment atm is there are only two wolves so most of my town reads by default will be right. So no need to really go too deep end if I think someone is town or hesitate if I want to execute someone.

town is in a good spot right now so you're comfortability in how you handle opposition to your reads is moving you up my read list

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:40 pm I have no idea what to. Look at since he was potatoe mafia

This feels like a D1 for me @MacDougall

you feel overly obsessed about mac's town lean on you

like you aren't gonna go over today. why is town lean not good enough for you lmao

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:16 pm Like that is the opposite of optimal play
lock clears a person, if they are scum then lock clear scum, if they are town then they'll never be watched or protected again meaning no harm in killing them without worrying about watchers/docs

this is only under the assumption there is for sure a rb'er in game? what info makes you think that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:10 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:03 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:58 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:54 pm I will say though, if there is direct meta contradicting this then I have less of a problem with ceding. But I have lost count of how many times I have seen town have that exact befuddled reaction to me.

I just don't want porscha to be the default flip for no reason. If she is polarized then she is polarized.

But also objecting to Tommy piling is literally always townsiding logic and there was no need to say it like that lol.
Also Mac I was giving Tommy a D1 pass yet you maybe trust me?
Do I trust you?
I said you maybe trust me
What gives you that impression?
Idk, I guess you don't.
I have you as a town lean. I have had moments of doubt.

what doubt do you have on sabi

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:56 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:51 pm Wilgy has a real life that's quite rich. Family, career etc. There's no use reading into it.

I thought he was a lil bit townie while he was here albeit brief. He is in POE getting poer, but I still feel like Porscha is a more logical flip to get. Pending Achro explaining the townslip.
Question:

If Porscha flips w, then who next

If Porscha flips V, then who next
Porscha wolf flip probably leads to Wilgy. V flip to Dizzy as Porscha v would encourage me to follow Achro's case on Dizzy which is at least somewhat contingent on Porscha being v.

i'm confused as to how wilgy or dizzy is related to me in this, why would I be pushing you to go on dizzy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:47 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:36 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:22 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:05 pm

I was thinking we should just flip Porscha here. Thoughts?
Maybe Wilgz if he doesn't show up today
Not Porscha?
Her catch up was pretty mid. Let's see if d3 is any better idk
I thought her catch up was okay but I still think she's a better chop for a variety of reasons than Wilgy. And especially Dyslexicon.
I guess we get zero info out of Wilgz. She did have a weird pop in and didn't really say anything except about how sexual the game was.

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine
I've seen Wilgy mischopped for falling off so many times. I can't really remember him flipping mafia after falling off. Slanking is possible as both aligns but straight up bailing on a game is more indicative of Wilgy feeling bored than resigned.

agree that wilgy slank isn't indicative of his alignment and I felt his process was townie day 1

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:36 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:35 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:22 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:07 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:05 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:57 pmI'm lost lol
I was thinking we should just flip Porscha here. Thoughts?
Maybe Wilgz if he doesn't show up today
Not Porscha?
Her catch up was pretty mid. Let's see if d3 is any better idk
I thought her catch up was okay but I still think she's a better chop for a variety of reasons than Wilgy. And especially Dyslexicon.
I guess we get zero info out of Wilgz. She did have a weird pop in and didn't really say anything except about how sexual the game was.

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

I read it all but i'm just exhausted and figured there'd be more to get around to later

Vivax wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:41 pm From my limited experience with her on MU I'd classify Porscha as polarized.
The uninspired D1 suggests mafia. Lack of cheeky excitement. I struggle with that as mafia myself.

the 1 game we played together I was a low poster until far later in the game too so idk how you can even begin to think I'm polarized on way or another. pretty audacious of you

I feel like I walked into the wrong classroom or something wtf is going on in here lmao

good night guys can't wait to come back to another missed 10 pages since I'm only around to play for the 5 hours nobody else is <3

alright good news is I didn't skip anything

bad news is I did almost of this reading while high and it is now past 3am

here is quick group list before I sleep

Pretty equally TR'D:
mac - fuck you guys I'm never rescinding this read out of spite
lucy - think the interactions with tommy just spew them town and regardless of that, lucy strong TR for me on their own merit
rondo - pretty sure i'm seeing town rondo repeatedly right now. strong on brand rondo
sabi - can't explain it just obv town sabi for me

TL:
nook - casual self
vivax - confuses me sometimes but seems genuine
wilgy - think day 1 reads are a little wack but the way he went about attempting it came off as t!wilgy to me
dizzy - seems confident and playing on brand

Unsure leveled into POE:
achro - makes a few good points but their interactions with others from a broader viewpoint kinda throw me off and I almost feel like there is an agenda that I can't put my finger on, unsure if hallucinating at this point
flanders - ate a little towny but hate the tunnel on me for IRL reasons out of my control. aggressive is not generally the motto for t!flanders in my experience
seanzie - playstyle meta tells me town, low-post-count-meta tells me not town, need to see more
ender - agreed with mac that ender usually has a certain way about him when he's town that isn't really being exhibited here and it may be alignment indicative
NAA - never knew what to do with NAA, never will, just always okay with this slot being yeeted until further notice

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:23 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:21 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:10 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am
Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player
how much FM have you played
Have you found me yet?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:04 am Hi @Tommy
These are the only interactions I could find in Sean iso in regards to Tommy (besides the argument with Mac about who had the biggest ego)

I don't get why Sean randomly says hi to Tommy. It's not like Tommy was the only new player in the game.

Sean weird comment asking Porscha if she found him is weird
not wrong... big weird

I didn't even respond to him because I had no idea what he was asking. it might have been the weird meta thing I described about him earlier, (i'm far too tired to go look at the context) but from what i remember sean had barely posted at that point, so I don't know how it could have been the meta thing.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:18 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:11 am I really don't like how you speak to me with a heaped undertone of I'm beneath you and a dumbass Achro.

I have never at any point thought you were stupid.
Well why do you keep talking to me in a way that makes me feel like you're trying to make me feel dumb?
Projecting thoughts onto me based on how you perceive me would be my guess.

Unless you mean my response to the solve of me and dizzy in thst case I am just kidding around and also I suspect dizzy so I have no problem testing your theory dizzy first haha

the "haha" made this post feel uncomfortable

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