Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[nutella]

I can tell you haven't if you still have a scumread on me.

You said that thing that shows you're scum.

spicy

[Master Radishes]

I can tell you haven't if you still have a scumread on me.

You said that thing that shows you're scum.

But it doesn't.

[Dyslexicon]

But it doesn't.

Don't talk back to me, young man.

The nerve.

[Dyslexicon]

Wait. I have an idea. What if I rescind my read on Radish either now, or later if I ever reads his posts and get charmed, and then whatever his alignment is, I can say I was right.

[Master Radishes]

But it doesn't.

Don't talk back to me, young man.

The nerve.

I'm a punk who doesn't respect my superiors.

[Syn]

But it doesn't.

Don't talk back to me, young man.

The nerve.

I'm a punk who doesn't respect my superiors.

So you're saying Dyslexicon is your superior?

[112]

unstoppable force here

where's that immovable object imma fuck it up

[Master Radishes]

But it doesn't.

Don't talk back to me, young man.

The nerve.

I'm a punk who doesn't respect my superiors.

So you're saying Dyslexicon is your superior?

Dizzy is everyone's superior.

[112]

Spoiler: show

[Dyslexicon]

But it doesn't.

Don't talk back to me, young man.

The nerve.

I'm a punk who doesn't respect my superiors.

So you're saying Dyslexicon is your superior?

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzy is everyone's superior.

Buddying successful! You may collect your town cred in form of a vote removal at any point during the game! \o/

[MacDougall]

sup

[Michelle]

im the quickest iso draw in the west

Teach me how to do this please

[Master Radishes]

Dizzy is everyone's superior.

Buddying successful! You may collect your town cred in form of a vote removal at any point during the game! \o/

I shall take this back to wolf chat as my prize. They will be so pleased with me!

[nutella]

sup

guess what i looked at cat's meta and ur right theyre lock mafia

[Michelle]

Dizzy is everyone's superior.

Buddying successful! You may collect your town cred in form of a vote removal at any point during the game! \o/

I shall take this back to wolf chat as my prize. They will be so pleased with me!

Who's the Alpha wolf there?

[112]

sup

guess what i looked at cat's meta and ur right theyre lock mafia

ladies and gentlemen, we gottem

[Michelle]

Wait. I have an idea. What if I rescind my read on Radish either now, or later if I ever reads his posts and get charmed, and then whatever his alignment is, I can say I was right.

[Master Radishes]

Dizzy is everyone's superior.

Buddying successful! You may collect your town cred in form of a vote removal at any point during the game! \o/

I shall take this back to wolf chat as my prize. They will be so pleased with me!

Who's the Alpha wolf there?

Plot twist:

it's Dizzy.

[Justplayingitcool]

I am awake

[Timsup2nothin]

I am awake

Dubious claim, but closed set up so maybe.

For my part, just quick looked at vote count while shutting down computer...night folks.

[cat]

Introduction

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The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod.

The only reference i have to you is almost getting chopped D1, getting salty and then modkilled later. All i know is that you are a passionate player, but i'm not really bothered if i interfered something important. This looks worse since i don't respond to a lot during my catchup but i decided to because you weren't on the wagon and throwing bad reasoning to vote him, which is what mafia often does when their buddy is in trouble and they don't want to look suspicious.

At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy".

That's simply because i'm not a regular player. This account i made here is specifically so i play the game and not meme for the entire game, with a foreign crowd and all.

When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.

My lack of volume compared to my incisiveness comes from me not being the most active player. I could post more but i wouldn't be able to make pretty much any reads. And the lack of a push comes from people not pushing me. You could say there's a lack of push against every player that hasn't been pushed seriously yet. So i'll assume this was tacked on for wordcount.

My slip and switching from Made

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Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.

Cat has given the game away immediately. Indeed by saying this they reveal their true intent, which is to indeed not stay there.

This is probably the main clincher of the case. I assume the idea is ''Made said something in mafia chat, cat went in and unvoted, and slipped the fact that he was going to do it."
I have no defense for this, it's just bad wording on my part. Good catch.
Although why would a wolf be so focused on unvoting from a wagon that was tied with two others almost two days before EoD is a different case.

Every time I see Made post I just been like look at dat wolf. There is very little by way of solving. He hasn't had any spicy pushes that I saw. He keeps doing wolfy popins where he just comments half the time on NAI concerns then skeets off back to wolf chat.

Sounds more like low-effort than scum to me.

Pause the tape right here. Do you see that? You see the emoji? Yeah. You see the emoji.

Important to note, that Made had a fair wagon comp at this point.

Yeah, and i pointed it out. If you can explain this one i'd appreciate it, not sure what your point is here.@MacDougall

Why did you intentionally play scummy?

Trying to increase my town range

This is so dumb i kinda believe it.
[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Hmmm were it not for the groundswell of momentum towards this outcome I would be inclined to believe it and see it as towny indeed! Wily. Sadly, not wily enough. Now, let's reverse tac, and see how they arrived at this point where lines indeed crossed over and Made became Nutella.

My switch onto Nutella

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nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

Unlike Made, Cat in fact began with somewhat of a defense of Nutella. Similar levels of vitriol towards Syn as was shown initially towards Made.

Those last few posts from Nutella super sus.

i want to townread this post too wtf i should stop. i dont think im doing this right. surely at least 1 wolf has posted by now

Towny. And yes those posts were sus. Nutella both acknowledges what's going on bringing attention to but kind of brushes it under the rug at the same time.

Trimmed from the very same wall in which he quoted my post to start inverting his Made read we have this borrowing of Jack's nutella argument.

You're off by a day. I'll assume this was on purpose. If it was on the same day i'd say your argument would make even less sense though. I would have a reason to townread my scumread and a reason to scumread another on the same day, which would ultimately make my vote switch. In this scenario i saw people's reads on Made weren't as strong as i expected and Made started popping off so i jumped on the new best thing which was another scumread of mine and to see what happens. You could say i should have started a wagon on Syn but i'm way too lazy for that, so i just said they are wolfy and left.

My issue with Nutella here is that I've had basically no content as is normal for me, and yet somehow she's giving a pass to other posters with similar reps (Nanook, Wilgy, et al) and apparently can't formulate any better reads on people with far more content. I am her *only* wolf read, and all I've done is shitpost as usual. My one bit of content, at a stretch, is a mild and brief back and forth with falcon where I felt he was being hedgey and forcing a push on me (and I stand by that, though I don't know it's AI for him) and that's apaprently enough to have her decide I am not only a wolf but her *only* wolf so far.

It's an opportunistic nudge and she's not disguising it well enough.

Fun post. I like it.

So fun that he cites it later as his reason for sheeping. Perhaps more fun because it's more content for him to justify his ultimate goal of moving his vote off of his teammate Made and onto Nutella (which he was trying to make look random the entire time).

Or it's another good reason to jump on the person who's being scummier.

nute's obvtown

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

Pushes back when someone calls her Obvtown, asks for elaboration on it. But...

He arrived there anyway.

112 didn't respond. I took the readlist from tutuu since i saw nutella and syn is a high town so i was gonna analyze it but i got lazy and went ''ah it will be fine i'll just do it later and see if i agree then''.

What this case basically falls down to is if i actually slipped my intentions from the start or was it bad wording. If you assume i'm just saying ''i'm catching up, but i like Made wagon'' then the case falls apart pretty instantly, since the other reasoning is pretty much NAI. if you assume i actually slipped and this was a heavily preplanned move in an unecesarry scenario, then fair enough, can't do much about it other than to leave my final reads.

About MacDougall, if Made or Nutella is mafia,and especially if both, he is a little more likely, since his action of pushing Made will fall short if he chops me and it also draws attention away from Nutella for the time being. But his reads have been very agressive and changing so it's not a strong reasoning.

[Michelle]

Dizzy is everyone's superior.

Buddying successful! You may collect your town cred in form of a vote removal at any point during the game! \o/

I shall take this back to wolf chat as my prize. They will be so pleased with me!

Who's the Alpha wolf there?

Plot twist:

it's Dizzy.

[Michelle]

I like cat's post wagon grew way too big

Cat
8
26%
Voters: Michelle, nutella, 112, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, Made, Timsup2nothin, Dyslexicon

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Michelle]

Took me so much time to skimm Cat's post between 2 phone calls and during the lunch break

I need to learn how to read faster methinks

[dunya]

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[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

3 replacements D1. Smh

[Michelle]

@tedxtr has replaced @Turnip Head
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Yay welcome Ted!

[Michelle]

Oops what happened with that color?

[Justplayingitcool]

Syn is still not being townie either.

Talk to me about this. I thought syn was pretty townie so far

Getting similar vibes to made where it's ''i'm gonna shitpost but also make like 1 read so no one complains''. It gets better later on but early game it's really jarring. Hopping in on nutella when it's hot then brushing it off as a meme when i question about it. Then it's tutuu's readlist where she states that Syn is known to be a low effort player anyway so why is it that Syn isn't completely meming and actually trying to look townie.

I don't think syn's read on nutella can even be classed as a meme now.

[tedxtr]

@MacDougall I vote group 1.

I do think tutuu's scum this game, so I don't want to give her immunity.

Spoiler: show

shoutout @tedxtr wish u were here bud

be careful what you wish for

[tedxtr]

hello friends, didn't catch up at all, skimmed a few things mindlessly while not in game

i'll get us started with a Q&A:

Q: why didn't you signup for the game?
A: because I would've been useless for the entire week and a few days + i hate normals

Q: so why'd you sub?
A: dunya and epi are cool beanz and this is the champions game. my exams also just finished

[tedxtr]

cliffs would be appreciated btw

[Justplayingitcool]

cliffs would be appreciated btw

- Alison is a claimed indie
- Mac thinks Cat is a slam dunk scum, but now voting for thunal (don't ask)
- syn is yolovoting nutella and has been calling her scum since day 0
- I am town
- nutella and MR had a schlong battle

There's probably more I missed but that's the gist I think from the top of my head

[tedxtr]

roger that

i have no clue who cat is but i'll take a look later

[Master Radishes]

- nutella and MR had a schlong battle

I mean I can't compete.

[Master Radishes]

roger that

i have no clue who cat is but i'll take a look later

112, Falcon, and Hyena have also been sizeable-ish wagons (like 4-5 votes) at various points. General feelings of 'not playing the way they normally do when town' or some variation of that.

[Master Radishes]

Oh and Made was a wagon at one point.

And Nutella attracted a few votes early on too.

I think that's it.

Basically it's D1 and a lot of people are expressing a strong degree of certainty about other people but momentum keeps shifting.

[Master Radishes]

Is there even a consensus townread yet? I feel like everyone has attracted at least a bit of suspicion so far.

[tedxtr]

roger that

i have no clue who cat is but i'll take a look later

112, Falcon, and Hyena have also been sizeable-ish wagons (like 4-5 votes) at various points. General feelings of 'not playing the way they normally do when town' or some variation of that.

gotcha, d1 reasons

falcon was a pretty obvious villager in other games ime but that's about all i can comment on without reading

[Michelle]

3 replacements D1. Smh

[Michelle]

roger that

i have no clue who cat is but i'll take a look later

Lisa in Simpsons game

[tutuu]

There's nothing wrong with voting Alison.

lmao

[Michelle]

cliffs would be appreciated btw

- Alison is a claimed indie
- Mac thinks Cat is a slam dunk scum, but now voting for thunal (don't ask)
- syn is yolovoting nutella and has been calling her scum since day 0
- I am town
- nutella and MR had a schlong battle

There's probably more I missed but that's the gist I think from the top of my head

Oh and Made was a wagon at one point.

And Nutella attracted a few votes early on too.

I think that's it.

Basically it's D1 and a lot of people are expressing a strong degree of certainty about other people but momentum keeps shifting.

Nice

@tedxtr in my and Made's Iso you will find saved VCs if you make the Iso just search for "spoiler"

And grats for finishing exams ^^

[tedxtr]

roger that

i have no clue who cat is but i'll take a look later

Lisa in Simpsons game

oh

seems more engaged in here (in solving / faking it) while not saying a lot and i didn't particularly like one post

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

red = awkward af, unlikely to be a real thought

i think pretty stark difference in toan too

also got to some mac post that was describing it more accurately, looks good

[tutuu]

@MacDougall I vote group 1.

I do think tutuu's scum this game, so I don't want to give her immunity.

Spoiler: show

shoutout @tedxtr wish u were here bud

be careful what you wish for

lmao

[tedxtr]

@tedxtr in my and Made's Iso you will find saved VCs if you make the Iso just search for "spoiler"

And grats for finishing exams ^^

eh i don't really need vcs and stuff, only at EoD, but appreciated nonetheless

thanksies

can you talk about your reads? i'd like a few town

[Master Radishes]

Actually I'd venture to say Michelle is consensus town by this point? If there's been any suspicion of her lately I haven't noticed it.

[tedxtr]

Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy"

i think this is right on the dot if you skim his game in simpsons and compare it to this one

and the last line of this post is also good (mac's, not mine)

[tedxtr]

Actually I'd venture to say Michelle is consensus town by this point? If there's been any suspicion of her lately I haven't noticed it.

oh so you've been lying to me then huh

maybe i'll forgive you..