Spider-verse Mafia [DAY 6]

[Marmot]

The sweet spot

falcon45ca167
112143
KZA114
Guillotine107
Master Radishes102
Epignosis94
Grogu94
Michelle86
BoKnows70
chardonnay66
reywaS55

Take out the likely town and the lost wolf

Guillotine107
Epignosis94
Grogu94
Michelle86
chardonnay66
reywaS55

Dear diary, it's the same POE as everyone elses mother of god.

Mac, why was BK likely town here?

[falcon45ca]

nutella and lordquas are definitely giving me the biggest town vibes.
Macs slot seems a little weird to me, wouldn't mind exploring that a little more today.

Sorry Nutella. Elephant lady is giving me town vibes.

BK really would like us to know that nutella is towny

[nutella]

I've mostly felt gut town on kyle on a similar level as I did in shadow corridors, but as the poe narrows there's not much to substantiate that. and need to check bo interactions

[falcon45ca]

12 hours between those posts, with no explanation from BK in between or thoughts on why nutella is towny.

[Marmot]

Spoiler: show

We're voting out BoKnows

Nah

can we just flip 112s whole wagon to prove me right

don't like this post.

I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112

meh

i just don't see it your way

if you're town maybe chill and hear other perspectives

can we just flip 112s whole wagon to prove me right

don't like this post.

I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112

wanting to flip a bunch of people to prove your fallacy right doesn't ping town to me.

yeah

and like. we are not just nuking a wagon that's dumb, game will develop beyond that. and michelle is just town so

look at these shining beacons of townyness like LordQuas move their vote around frequently, and move without too much discretion, while others choose to hold firm in their 112 vote, what could be the difference here

Bruh half the 112 voters haven't been in thread since you came and shat on them lol

boknows and falcon both were, both the people most scummy on 112

Ok

I feel like falcon is towny and bo is p null and simply having their vote on 112 isn't enough for me to sr them

Also the particular dynamic that falcon and bo are from 112s homesite may mean they are specifically more confident in that vote. People familiar w each other will focus on those people more so while I agree that in general vote parking is wolfy I think in this case there is more nuance and they may just have a good/confident scumtead on 112.

If you weren't aware of this background do consider it, if you were it kinda concerns me that you are discrediting their reads on 112 tbh.

you realize 112 made a not villagery read on bo already, right?

...ok? is that relevant to my point or are you just saying i should consider the reverse

@nutella I will say that im concerned 112 didnt vote boknows after expressing that view

but I also noticed several people talking about bo being wolfy and not voting them

it's weird that 112 can drive up some sort of wagon but bo can't

yeah i get what you mean, there's arguments for both sides


112's vote is on michelle wtf

the rest are:

chargonnay
DaisyCloud
Enrique
Epignosis
G-man
Kylemii
Macdougall (he prob is town but I haven't read much from him at all)
Marmot
Master radishes
rewaS
Seanzie
TSP

Out of these I'm p comfortable calling mac, master radishes, epignosis, and kylemii town for now. Rest feels like a good starting poe (I'd put guillo and boknows back in it prob, and maybe dya)

We're voting out BoKnows

Yeah I'm actually okay with BK's explanation for suspecting 112 since that's kind of what pinged me early on about 112.

BoKnows reminds me of his scum game in Shadow Corridors where he was skating by and asking innocent little newbie questions about jargon.

Would like a lot more from him.

Ayo... wtf is a hotdog costume man posts?

I'm not falling for your cutesy act Mr. PBR

You are Mafia and I will prove this when you're done pretending

Interesting progression on BK

Hm

We're voting out BoKnows

Yeah I'm actually okay with BK's explanation for suspecting 112 since that's kind of what pinged me early on about 112.

BoKnows reminds me of his scum game in Shadow Corridors where he was skating by and asking innocent little newbie questions about jargon.

Would like a lot more from him.

Ayo... wtf is a hotdog costume man posts?

I'm not falling for your cutesy act Mr. PBR

You are Mafia and I will prove this when you're done pretending

Interesting progression on BK

Idk @KZA I thought this was pretty interesting

Can you talk through it a bit

Switched to Made. Was on Mac no momentum there. If I had to choose between the two leading wagons to be wolf my money is on Made. The wagon on Sawyer doesn't make sense to me. Admittedly Made's game has been pretty okay, but the whole point system with little explanation seems like a "cheap" way to get by.

wuh oh

I think Bo is TWTBW there lol

maybe.gif

Here's a compilation of all of nutella's interactions with BK on Day 1.

A lot of this does look hedgey to me. The second one in particular where nutella tells esooa to chill and hear other perspectives when esooa calls BK town. That's pretty scummy.

[nutella]

12 hours between those posts, with no explanation from BK in between or thoughts on why nutella is towny.

it's quite common for mafia to tmi the most active and consensus townies bc it benefits them to not go against the grain there

i think bo is more the type to shade his partners. can compare to shadow corridors I guess

but I can assure you he knew I'm town

[nutella]

Not gonna claim or anything obv but this is a waste of your time. I am extremely very much not Bo's teammate lol.

[Marmot]

I just 1-shot a whole jar of peanut butter

with one apple


to clarify it was a 4oz jar

and here's the peanut butter tell

[nutella]

I wouldn't hedge on a partner who made a bad post like that at the end

[nutella]

Marmot do you think I would try to push mac off you so hard after I picked up on your role if I was mafia

[Marmot]

I wouldn't hedge on a partner who made a bad post like that at the end

Can you explain your progression on BK Day 1? You talked about him a number of times, but the quotes I pulled (and I did pull all the quotes I could find) were responses to other people casing him. He never seemed to be on your radar.

[Marmot]

Marmot do you think I would try to push mac off you so hard after I picked up on your role if I was mafia

You'd already admitted to knowing my role, and KZA knew that you knew, so you'd have no reason to doubt it.

I appreciate your support in that moment, but I don't think that interaction is AI.

[nutella]

I wouldn't hedge on a partner who made a bad post like that at the end

Can you explain your progression on BK Day 1? You talked about him a number of times, but the quotes I pulled (and I did pull all the quotes I could find) were responses to other people casing him. He never seemed to be on your radar.

yeah he wasn't on my radar

he was just a low poster i was null on, he was in my poe by default but didn't seem like a priority. I remember esooa talking about the 112 voters as a group and he was the one I felt worst about I think.

that second to last post you pulled looked really bad to me and made him more of an actual suspect

[nutella]

Marmot do you think I would try to push mac off you so hard after I picked up on your role if I was mafia

You'd already admitted to knowing my role, and KZA knew that you knew, so you'd have no reason to doubt it.

I appreciate your support in that moment, but I don't think that interaction is AI.

ok

I was suspecting you pretty hard before then, what would I gain as mafia from 180ing there rather than hope other ppl didn't pick up on it? I was glad to be ae to take you out of my poe

[nutella]

able to *

[Master Radishes]

Yeah guys, possible association doesn't mean definite association. Bo is still fairly inexperienced and not a strong wolf. It makes perfect sense for him to slot a super vocal townie as town with no progression.

Like I'm not gonna hard defend nutella really. I'm only half paying attention. But I don't think one scum hedging a green on a vocal townie is enough to sway my read.

[KZA]

You know, Michelle claimed the healing role. One thing the wolves would know is whether or not the poison role made the final cut. Logically if the poison role was cut so would the healing role?

Am I being too spicy?

[nutella]

You know, Michelle claimed the healing role. One thing the wolves would know is whether or not the poison role made the final cut. Logically if the poison role was cut so would the healing role?

Am I being too spicy?

hmmm
doesn't that role also have a regular doc?

but this is actually pretty spicy hmmmm

[nutella]

eh yeah it's protect and cure, and I don't see another protective unless I'm not something so actually highly doubt that would be cut if it's the main doc

[falcon45ca]

You know, Michelle claimed the healing role. One thing the wolves would know is whether or not the poison role made the final cut. Logically if the poison role was cut so would the healing role?

Am I being too spicy?

That's Sriracha spicy, but not Mad Dog 357 spicy

[Marmot]

Marmot do you think I would try to push mac off you so hard after I picked up on your role if I was mafia

You'd already admitted to knowing my role, and KZA knew that you knew, so you'd have no reason to doubt it.

I appreciate your support in that moment, but I don't think that interaction is AI.

ok

I was suspecting you pretty hard before then, what would I gain as mafia from 180ing there rather than hope other ppl didn't pick up on it? I was glad to be ae to take you out of my poe

I'm just another player to add to the soupkill list.

[falcon45ca]

Yeah guys, possible association doesn't mean definite association. Bo is still fairly inexperienced and not a strong wolf. It makes perfect sense for him to slot a super vocal townie as town with no progression.

Like I'm not gonna hard defend nutella really. I'm only half paying attention. But I don't think one scum hedging a green on a vocal townie is enough to sway my read.

It's more than just BK's interaction with nutella, it's also nutella's interactions with BK. Look at what Marmot dug up, you don't find nutella's at all sus?

[Marmot]

You know, Michelle claimed the healing role. One thing the wolves would know is whether or not the poison role made the final cut. Logically if the poison role was cut so would the healing role?

Am I being too spicy?

Did LC tell us how he would be cutting roles? Like is it random, or did he pick them?

[DaughterOfOmega]

Hola, done with 2 classes, but still have lab in 40 minutes. Bit of a break though

[Marmot]

I'm interested in KZA's case on Boknows, assuming they have one to share.

These things take time and effort. This is not surface level.

I can wait patiently for it.

This is chardonnay's only mention of BK this game.

Meh, this leaves me feeling null on char. I could see this coming from either alignment, and char's lack of activity (compared to everyone else) does make it impossible for him to have fully developed reads on and interactions with everyone.

[Marmot]

Actually yeah, I don't really get why we're looking at chardonnay right now. Can one of the voters explain @DaughterOfOmega @nutella @MacDougall @Kylemii

[Marmot]

Sure, he's in the poe based on many other people being cleared, but his posts look fine to me. He's also hinted at his role.

[Master Radishes]

Yeah guys, possible association doesn't mean definite association. Bo is still fairly inexperienced and not a strong wolf. It makes perfect sense for him to slot a super vocal townie as town with no progression.

Like I'm not gonna hard defend nutella really. I'm only half paying attention. But I don't think one scum hedging a green on a vocal townie is enough to sway my read.

It's more than just BK's interaction with nutella, it's also nutella's interactions with BK. Look at what Marmot dug up, you don't find nutella's at all sus?

Was that the stuff in the spoiler? Nah didn't read it. I'll look later.

[Marmot]

Yeah guys, possible association doesn't mean definite association. Bo is still fairly inexperienced and not a strong wolf. It makes perfect sense for him to slot a super vocal townie as town with no progression.

Like I'm not gonna hard defend nutella really. I'm only half paying attention. But I don't think one scum hedging a green on a vocal townie is enough to sway my read.

It's more than just BK's interaction with nutella, it's also nutella's interactions with BK. Look at what Marmot dug up, you don't find nutella's at all sus?

Was that the stuff in the spoiler? Nah didn't read it. I'll look later.

Yeah, I didn't really filter it. But if there's a post worth looking at, it's the second one in there.

[nutella]

Actually yeah, I don't really get why we're looking at chardonnay right now. Can one of the voters explain @DaughterOfOmega @nutella @MacDougall @Kylemii

I moved my vote back there when michelle claimed but don't feel great about it. Was just kind of a default suspect. Like I said I'm interested in looking at kyle so not sure where my vote will ultimately end up

[Made]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[nutella]

Sure, he's in the poe based on many other people being cleared, but his posts look fine to me. He's also hinted at his role.

I missed the hint lol. His posts have been back and forth for me

[Made]

today might be the day we have to vote 112...

[nutella]

I see some of you are on grogu, I could see that as well. Since I believe michelle for now I think it's possible he was tmiing her town earlier.

[VOTE: grogu] aubergine

[nutella]

I still don't feel excited about offing 112 but I'm sometimes dumb about what's mechanically optimal

[nutella]

Since we did get one pack wolf down today I think it's fine to focus on whittling them down

[nutella]

Like fmpov the poe is "boxing in" enough that our chances of a hit are p good

[Kylemii]

Actually yeah, I don't really get why we're looking at chardonnay right now. Can one of the voters explain @DaughterOfOmega @nutella @MacDougall @Kylemii

I haven't had a chance to move it yet. in terms of this vote's life, chardonnay is only part of the journey, not the destination.

[Made]

Is meta to counter claim? like is that what you should do always?

[Marmot]

Actually yeah, I don't really get why we're looking at chardonnay right now. Can one of the voters explain @DaughterOfOmega @nutella @MacDougall @Kylemii

I haven't had a chance to move it yet. in terms of this vote's life, chardonnay is only part of the journey, not the destination.

Next stop, chardonnay!!

[Marmot]

Is meta to counter claim? like is that what you should do always?

It seems optimal, because if you're town and someone else claims your role, they're probably scum (or DoO pulling a wicked gambit)

[Kylemii]

this forum needs a "zen" emoji. I need to be able to punctuate my shit with a tiny little meditating man to be properly understood

[Marmot]

Why are you so inzensed that it doesn't exist?

[Seanzie]

I'm trying to nail down who exactly in my POE we are killing tomorrow.

I've been able to take out Guillotine, and probably Reywas.

I want us to break down my last 5
Grogu
Michelle
ESOOA
Epignosis
Marmot

Chardonnay would be in my POE, but is a special pending case because of the semi claim

I am like hardcore not caught up, but I just saw this, and all I can say is that given the little I read, I remembered getting bad vibes from a few posts by Michelle. Nothing concrete, but if I had to vote between these 5 right meow, I would go there.

[reywaS]

Ragequitting football after last night. I’d take my frustration out on mafia if this game wasn’t so verbose. The last two pages I read a lot of stuff about mass claiming, plus a hefty bit of arrogance, pride, and ego. Is this really what this game (specifically and broadly) has become?

I have no idea what to do, where to vote, or who to trust. Looks like a long day ahead and a long nine or ten games beyond this one. Sheesh. Can we try to have a little fun for a change?

I feel ya. For me it was either role claim or watch myself get runaway trained. I’m holding on for dear life. It’s a lot and mafia benefit most from the chaos.

[nutella]

Ragequitting football after last night. I’d take my frustration out on mafia if this game wasn’t so verbose. The last two pages I read a lot of stuff about mass claiming, plus a hefty bit of arrogance, pride, and ego. Is this really what this game (specifically and broadly) has become?

I have no idea what to do, where to vote, or who to trust. Looks like a long day ahead and a long nine or ten games beyond this one. Sheesh. Can we try to have a little fun for a change?

I feel ya. For me it was either role claim or watch myself get runaway trained. I’m holding on for dear life. It’s a lot and mafia benefit most from the chaos.

as someone (I think esooa) said, you really didn't have to claim if you could just be townie instead

like try to solve, give your thoughts, just free flow it man, that should be how people find you town and pull you out of the poe rather than giving the mafia a free claim

[reywaS]

falcon and Reywas aren't doing much. :/

I am though. Maybe I haven’t posted tons of opinions but I assure you I am keeping up with the thread and trying to get a good read on people. I know almost no one in this game.

I haven't had my anti depressants in 2 weeks(doctor can't get me a prescription til later this month,) I swear this feeling better not stick around till then

I emphasize. I am on antidepressants too and I get all
Out of sort after missing them for a couple of days. I feel
For you.

so Michelle claimed.

so with the list of people who just claimed, and no cc as of yet we can conclude that

A. they are who they say they are

B: they are not who they claim they are but actual person with the role is staying silent

C. some are lying/some are not

even with a cc we can't for sure know who the lying person is and who isn't. even if someone made a claim and is lying they don't necessarily mean that person is scum. it's scummy to be town and claim a role you are not but still.

so we still need to scum hunt regardless of claims.

I think we need people to stop claiming.

I am not comfortable voting to yeet out a person who made a claim because they can be real claims.

in the event off cc I will reassess. just note just because I won't yeet out a person who made a claim right now doesn't mean I won't later.

claiming and resting on your laurels and possibly survive soup makes that player be more sus.

I can see in a game like this and a situation we have going on in this game for a player to not cc.

having said that I think I might vote Epignosis or 112.

112 because they are lost wolf and just because they can win with town their tracking ability benefits wolves and they can win wolves. they are basically survivor but with a twist.

Epignosis because lack of scum hunting.

please feel free to "but Daisy" me and "no Daisy" me.

let me know if im supposed to yeet someone else.

[reywaS]

I posted without commenting on last big daisy post.

I am in agreement with you here. I just ask for patience.
Not just coasting I promise. Each time I come to the thread there are always many pages to catch up on. I’ve been reading when I can all day and work and am one page from being caught up.

I’m putting in work

[Esooa]

lettuce kill seanzie

[Marmot]

lettuce kill seanzie

dis good take