The Syndicate

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:00 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.

This is garbo.

Picking up two of the easier targets left in the game and saying 'Yep, game is all but solved' when there isn't a single scumlynch to analyse for partner interactions is insane.

And yes, I know what I quoted there is not what you said. You can argue semantics. But this is a lazy pass at claiming a gamestate that isn't true. A gamestate that will cause complacency and guarantee that town loses.

After everything I've put into this game I'd rather not anything I've done be called lazy, that is all.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:11 pm everyone seems to be ok with banishing michelle today should i be worried?

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:12 pm i've been incredibly lazy, don't even lie

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 pm I would be more worried about the traction of speed/jeraldoo. For Michelle, I don't see a world where I get off and consider other teams without her, I just can't see it

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:18 am Actually, I'm going to further elaborate on this. 1612, easily one of the worse players from my comparison, is not on this list. Why? Please tell me.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:00 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.

This is garbo.

Picking up two of the easier targets left in the game and saying 'Yep, game is all but solved' when there isn't a single scumlynch to analyse for partner interactions is insane.

And yes, I know what I quoted there is not what you said. You can argue semantics. But this is a lazy pass at claiming a gamestate that isn't true. A gamestate that will cause complacency and guarantee that town loses.

After everything I've put into this game I'd rather not anything I've done be called lazy, that is all.

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:18 am Actually, I'm going to further elaborate on this. 1612, easily one of the worse players from my comparison, is not on this list. Why? Please tell me.

One more thing before I hit the shack, what did you mean by this? Could you tell me what your thought process was when saying that?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:27 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:00 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.

This is garbo.

Picking up two of the easier targets left in the game and saying 'Yep, game is all but solved' when there isn't a single scumlynch to analyse for partner interactions is insane.

And yes, I know what I quoted there is not what you said. You can argue semantics. But this is a lazy pass at claiming a gamestate that isn't true. A gamestate that will cause complacency and guarantee that town loses.

After everything I've put into this game I'd rather not anything I've done be called lazy, that is all.

I'm only operating off of the here and now. I understand you have a high post count, and that there is a lot of effort in those posts.

Even in the most tinfoily of situations, there's still a scum NOT in Dizzy/MP/Urist. I don't think I want to lynch there today. But I'm not ruling anything out until we get a scumflip.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:46 pm I just skimmed 1612's ISO. I don't feel like voting there today. The effort in some of those posts makes me think that the many posts about 'sorry I'm not there' were genuine.

I don't have much reason not to vote Michelle.

I tinfoil MP7 over Dizzy, but it's hard to say. MP being inconsistent is pretty town meta for her.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:12 pm i've been incredibly lazy, don't even lie

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:27 pm Even in the most tinfoily of situations, there's still a scum NOT in Dizzy/MP/Urist. I don't think I want to lynch there today. But I'm not ruling anything out until we get a scumflip.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:37 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:27 pm Even in the most tinfoily of situations, there's still a scum NOT in Dizzy/MP/Urist. I don't think I want to lynch there today. But I'm not ruling anything out until we get a scumflip.

Why not in these three? It's *exactly* my tinfoil team

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Alright I'm done catching up! Pfiouh, that was quite a read.

First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

@Dyslexicon @M Plus 7 Do you still consider each other to be lock town?

Some thoughts about everyone:
* I've played with Alison and Dyslexicon in Space Invaders and I'm pretty glad I don't have to sort the former lol
I'm feeling pretty good about Dyslexicon, he's basically a copy-pasted version of town Dyslexicon in Space invaders. I've never seen his wolf game though, so I'm keeping a healthy bit of paranoia. Probably not voting here today.

* I also played 2 games with Michelle when we were both town, we found and vibed we each other pretty early both time (it was in another language though). In this game I didn't find her posting super townie so that's concerning. Need more interactions with her today.

* M Plus 7 is universally town read but I don't get why? She's been kinda all over the place and had good intuitions during EoD1 (the wagons being v/v/v) & EoD3 (Lavender flipping town) but didn't actually follow them so eh. I think she's the most likely deepwolf. Might vote here.

* 1612's reaction to the fake check felt townie and it was pretty consensus itt, I don't understand how he suddenly became a wagon during EoD3. iirc protocultures was the only one to really townread Lavender so I think he might have felt like his reads were a bit overlooked and it resulted in him putting himself in a corner (does that make sense?) Probably not voting here today.

* I think speedchuck's EoD3 has been really opportunistic and his wagon dissolving feels like a wolfy save. I want to take a closer look at their ISO today. Might vote here.

* I think Urist should never be voted out today so I'm choosing to not invest energy sorting this slot for the moment. Not voting here today.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am Michelle, we should chat so I feel like we can stop talking past each other. Is there something that you still want me to address specifically?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:58 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am Michelle, we should chat so I feel like we can stop talking past each other. Is there something that you still want me to address specifically?

i have to catch up, let's chat.

Why did you flip your read on me so many times?

Answer as short as you can please, i have no time to read wallies.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:00 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:58 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am Michelle, we should chat so I feel like we can stop talking past each other. Is there something that you still want me to address specifically?

i have to catch up, let's chat.

Why did you flip your read on me so many times?

Answer as short as you can please, i have no time to read wallies.

Because I’m genuinely unsure

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:24 am So my ideas for everyone is:

1612 - he had pretty pure tone at the Tutuu's fake red check

Carotenoid (cobbler, ted) - I liked Cobbler more than Ted iirc but i didn't catch up on Carot, hope she is Carotte and english will not change her playstyle (changes mine, i love french more but i know better to express my ideas in english because i am already playing from one year and half)

Dyslexicon - Dizzy is a magnificent scum player, nothing is outsude his scum range.

Michelle - lazy and villager

M Plus 7 - too sweet to be real, i remember her town game was more abrasive. She receives my vote tiday for now

Speedchuck (jeraldbooo) - my Iso on Jeraldo made me ask him some questions but i didn't receive an answer iirc. I have to read Speed though.

Urist - green checked, not today lynch. His probability to be town is second after mine (50% after 100%)

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:26 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:00 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:58 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am Michelle, we should chat so I feel like we can stop talking past each other. Is there something that you still want me to address specifically?

i have to catch up, let's chat.

Why did you flip your read on me so many times?

Answer as short as you can please, i have no time to read wallies.

Because I’m genuinely unsure

come on..

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 am Carote, can you talk to me more about your experience with Dizzy?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am

Spoiler: show

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Alright I'm done catching up! Pfiouh, that was quite a read.

First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

@Dyslexicon @M Plus 7 Do you still consider each other to be lock town?

Some thoughts about everyone:
* I've played with Alison and Dyslexicon in Space Invaders and I'm pretty glad I don't have to sort the former lol
I'm feeling pretty good about Dyslexicon, he's basically a copy-pasted version of town Dyslexicon in Space invaders. I've never seen his wolf game though, so I'm keeping a healthy bit of paranoia. Probably not voting here today.

* I also played 2 games with Michelle when we were both town, we found and vibed we each other pretty early both time (it was in another language though). In this game I didn't find her posting super townie so that's concerning. Need more interactions with her today.

* M Plus 7 is universally town read but I don't get why? She's been kinda all over the place and had good intuitions during EoD1 (the wagons being v/v/v) & EoD3 (Lavender flipping town) but didn't actually follow them so eh. I think she's the most likely deepwolf. Might vote here.

* 1612's reaction to the fake check felt townie and it was pretty consensus itt, I don't understand how he suddenly became a wagon during EoD3. iirc protocultures was the only one to really townread Lavender so I think he might have felt like his reads were a bit overlooked and it resulted in him putting himself in a corner (does that make sense?) Probably not voting here today.

* I think speedchuck's EoD3 has been really opportunistic and his wagon dissolving feels like a wolfy save. I want to take a closer look at their ISO today. Might vote here.

* I think Urist should never be voted out today so I'm choosing to not invest energy sorting this slot for the moment. Not voting here today.

Are you Carotte? Ask me anything tbh

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:34 am I swear if one more person says my being too nice is because of my role card.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:30 am Michelle if you have a specific question about my progression of you or there’s anything I can clear up I would be happy to, but if you want an answer for why any of my reads have been inconsistent I think the most obvious answer is it’s because I’m fucking town.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:30 am Michelle if you have a specific question about my progression of you or there’s anything I can clear up I would be happy to, but if you want an answer for why any of my reads have been inconsistent I think the most obvious answer is it’s because I’m fucking town.

You are fucking town? I don't see it. And yes, i am tone reading you. Why is this a problem, is obvious i didn't read all your posts and i don't have time to read them and if you are wolfing is really useless to read them.

Your progreasion on me is bad, instead explaining it to me you change the topic explaining how much you posted.

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:34 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 am Carote, can you talk to me more about your experience with Dizzy?

We were both town in Space Invader. I think that I mainly started to townread him when we picked up Alison's scumslip at the same time. Aside from that, we weren't really in the thread at the same time so since he had similar reads and that my main scumread had a bizarre read on him that wasn't w/w I felt comfortable not really interacting with him. We did interact during the sad EoD where he was horrifically pew pewed, I thought his frustration was super townie. He still got pew pewed. Argh these are bad memories

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am

Spoiler: show

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Alright I'm done catching up! Pfiouh, that was quite a read.

First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

@Dyslexicon @M Plus 7 Do you still consider each other to be lock town?

Some thoughts about everyone:
* I've played with Alison and Dyslexicon in Space Invaders and I'm pretty glad I don't have to sort the former lol
I'm feeling pretty good about Dyslexicon, he's basically a copy-pasted version of town Dyslexicon in Space invaders. I've never seen his wolf game though, so I'm keeping a healthy bit of paranoia. Probably not voting here today.

* I also played 2 games with Michelle when we were both town, we found and vibed we each other pretty early both time (it was in another language though). In this game I didn't find her posting super townie so that's concerning. Need more interactions with her today.

* M Plus 7 is universally town read but I don't get why? She's been kinda all over the place and had good intuitions during EoD1 (the wagons being v/v/v) & EoD3 (Lavender flipping town) but didn't actually follow them so eh. I think she's the most likely deepwolf. Might vote here.

* 1612's reaction to the fake check felt townie and it was pretty consensus itt, I don't understand how he suddenly became a wagon during EoD3. iirc protocultures was the only one to really townread Lavender so I think he might have felt like his reads were a bit overlooked and it resulted in him putting himself in a corner (does that make sense?) Probably not voting here today.

* I think speedchuck's EoD3 has been really opportunistic and his wagon dissolving feels like a wolfy save. I want to take a closer look at their ISO today. Might vote here.

* I think Urist should never be voted out today so I'm choosing to not invest energy sorting this slot for the moment. Not voting here today.

Are you Carotte? Ask me anything tbh

Yes! Are you town Michelle?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:34 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 am Carote, can you talk to me more about your experience with Dizzy?

We were both town in Space Invader. I think that I mainly started to townread him when we picked up Alison's scumslip at the same time. Aside from that, we weren't really in the thread at the same time so since he had similar reads and that my main scumread had a bizarre read on him that wasn't w/w I felt comfortable not really interacting with him. We did interact during the sad EoD where he was horrifically pew pewed, I thought his frustration was super townie. He still got pew pewed. Argh these are bad memories

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am

Spoiler: show

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Alright I'm done catching up! Pfiouh, that was quite a read.

First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

@Dyslexicon @M Plus 7 Do you still consider each other to be lock town?

Some thoughts about everyone:
* I've played with Alison and Dyslexicon in Space Invaders and I'm pretty glad I don't have to sort the former lol
I'm feeling pretty good about Dyslexicon, he's basically a copy-pasted version of town Dyslexicon in Space invaders. I've never seen his wolf game though, so I'm keeping a healthy bit of paranoia. Probably not voting here today.

* I also played 2 games with Michelle when we were both town, we found and vibed we each other pretty early both time (it was in another language though). In this game I didn't find her posting super townie so that's concerning. Need more interactions with her today.

* M Plus 7 is universally town read but I don't get why? She's been kinda all over the place and had good intuitions during EoD1 (the wagons being v/v/v) & EoD3 (Lavender flipping town) but didn't actually follow them so eh. I think she's the most likely deepwolf. Might vote here.

* 1612's reaction to the fake check felt townie and it was pretty consensus itt, I don't understand how he suddenly became a wagon during EoD3. iirc protocultures was the only one to really townread Lavender so I think he might have felt like his reads were a bit overlooked and it resulted in him putting himself in a corner (does that make sense?) Probably not voting here today.

* I think speedchuck's EoD3 has been really opportunistic and his wagon dissolving feels like a wolfy save. I want to take a closer look at their ISO today. Might vote here.

* I think Urist should never be voted out today so I'm choosing to not invest energy sorting this slot for the moment. Not voting here today.

Are you Carotte? Ask me anything tbh

Yes! Are you town Michelle?

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:41 am @Michelle are you going to vote for MP7?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:45 am

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:41 am @Michelle are you going to vote for MP7?

at this vote is my head now.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:43 am Unless Michelle is just open wolfing right now, perhaps that's why no one seems to give a fuck if she gets yeeted? Otherwise I have no clue what is going on here.