The Syndicate

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:13 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:08 pm My favorite quote is this:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:28 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:24 pm Mmk i'm gonna go with
Protocultures
M plus 7
Jeraldooo
Michelle
Lavender
Alison
1612
Dizzy
Cobbler
Reasons may or may not come, i'll try for tomorrow

This is from scummiest to towniest, right? o.o

linki

When I was in a position to unironically be shocked the three scum could possibly not be the three towniest.

oh man i love gifs now

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:22 pm There are so many players I met this game that I would love to play with again. Let’s try to make that happen!

y'all are the nicest (more importantly respectful) players ive seen in mafia games. will definitely stick around to play a few more

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:42 pm I do wanna note that 1612 took like 20-35 minutes to react. I had my post accusing him of being peeked mafia ready and posted it right after he made a flurry of post. I've been keeping refreshing the page ever since. But like, obviously IRL could have gotten in his way and stuff. But ... idk. If he reacted sooner I would have townread him. I still kind of scumread him and lowkey think he could be Godfather. But I'm willing to believe he's not Goon.

(sweats and slowly changes settings to hide online status, crossing fingers tutu doesn't realize)

I did not expect that online status on forum to be a piece of info. Lesson learned.

Thank you everyone, was a great first forum game for me! Hopefully I roll town next time

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:18 am Actually, I'm going to further elaborate on this. 1612, easily one of the worse players from my comparison, is not on this list. Why? Please tell me.

One more thing before I hit the shack, what did you mean by this? Could you tell me what your thought process was when saying that?

Oh boy, I feel like we lost flow of the conversation and sadly I must also take my leave. I will try to check in tomorrow but I have work until 5pm so I'll quickly take a read and place my vote then

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:12 pm i've been incredibly lazy, don't even lie

you should try mafia.gg LOL

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:11 pm everyone seems to be ok with banishing michelle today should i be worried?

I would be more worried about the traction of speed/jeraldoo. For Michelle, I don't see a world where I get off and consider other teams without her, I just can't see it

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:00 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.

This is garbo.

Picking up two of the easier targets left in the game and saying 'Yep, game is all but solved' when there isn't a single scumlynch to analyse for partner interactions is insane.

And yes, I know what I quoted there is not what you said. You can argue semantics. But this is a lazy pass at claiming a gamestate that isn't true. A gamestate that will cause complacency and guarantee that town loses.

After everything I've put into this game I'd rather not anything I've done be called lazy, that is all.

NONE of you guys are lazy at all, all of us have been playing pretty actively besides being occupied with irl stuiff.
Don't take it personally mp7

I think, [mention]speedchuck[/mention], we just all are sussing you because jeraldooo's logs were extremely coasty and yeah I guess you are right, its an easy target. We need to reconsider with the logs we have with the new player.

It is a bit weird how much traction it has and there's not much conversation honestly in a mylo situation cause speed is giving decent logs considering he has been here for only one day and has no obligation to try to gamesolve this much if he his is mafia because he would have been in a really good spot. And I don't think he has the vibe of distancing and giving false notes that we read into in the case that we do vote him up and we proceed with final 5 or final 3

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:21 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:19 pmI will give you my opinion. LOL
Why are you so insistent on my pairing with Michelle? if I was her partner I would not try to bus her in that situation where lavendar has so much sus on his hands that it makes no sense for me to try to hard defend him. it was just my personal read that i thought would be safe to give since I want to contribute and i've been a pretty weak player in the early phases of the game. I am not a new player to mafia so I know when to bus and I would never try to "distance with Michelle" here. If anything that would be really weird and coming out of nowhere. VERY SIMPLY, michelle was just less town than lavendar and I suggested that but apparently i was sussed for defending my wolf mate or distancing with my wolf mate. Explain THAT.

You need to give more of your thoughts on that and let me clear that up. I feel like you don't have actual reasons against me and you are just setting up for tomorrow. You are one of my top town reads but I can't help but feel that you are trying to bus and set me up for tomorrow

So if we yeet Michelle, there will be a tomorrow? =)

are you really still taking me out of context??

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention], give me your reads on me ASIDE from michelle right now. You've been avoiding that question for a loooong time. Give me your views on my iso'd logs, my reaction to tutu's reaction test.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:09 pm My info is MP is town or I quit. Call it complacency if you want.
I read through Michelle's iso and I didn't like it. Vote on Scirrus and Alison, one on 1612 with no intent or bite and a backtrack of voting somewhere else "cause 1612 showed up now". She talks to MP as she's town and same with me early game, which reads tmi. Volume clear on MP I dislike. She later scum reads 1612 and Lav, but tunnels only Lav. I especially don't like her handling of 1612 which reads teammate all the way to me. Would like opinions on this.

I will give you my opinion. LOL
Why are you so insistent on my pairing with Michelle? if I was her partner I would not try to bus her in that situation where lavendar has so much sus on his hands that it makes no sense for me to try to hard defend him. it was just my personal read that i thought would be safe to give since I want to contribute and i've been a pretty weak player in the early phases of the game. I am not a new player to mafia so I know when to bus and I would never try to "distance with Michelle" here. If anything that would be really weird and coming out of nowhere. VERY SIMPLY, michelle was just less town than lavendar and I suggested that but apparently i was sussed for defending my wolf mate or distancing with my wolf mate. Explain THAT.

You need to give more of your thoughts on that and let me clear that up. I feel like you don't have actual reasons against me and you are just setting up for tomorrow. You are one of my top town reads but I can't help but feel that you are trying to bus and set me up for tomorrow

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:28 pm So @speedchuck , I really want to hear your thoughts on me because it seems like to me you have urgency today and I think you didn't participate at all for looking at Lavendar and Michelle. You are telling us that you are frustrated how some players are complacent but to me, you were also very complacent yesterday

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:46 pm I just skimmed 1612's ISO. I don't feel like voting there today. The effort in some of those posts makes me think that the many posts about 'sorry I'm not there' were genuine.

I don't have much reason not to vote Michelle.

I tinfoil MP7 over Dizzy, but it's hard to say. MP being inconsistent is pretty town meta for her.

Okay but you didn't really answer my question. You iso my logs in mylo instead of yesterday? understandable if you don't play tryhard in a non-mylo situation but your reasoning on me as town in the general scope of the game was always there for you to read. Why didn't you want to try to solve lavendar and michelle first, why did you park your vote on me, why didn't you read me town with your reasoning when it existed yesterday?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:52 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:42 pm

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm
First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

You think they are blatantly pocketing one another, patting each other's back with "oh wow if mp7/dizzy is big brain mafia, i will be so embarrassed"?

I'm not sure but I definitely think that it's possible and that we shouldn't overlook this scenario

Okay, do you have any thoughts on the vote yesterday? I feel like your reads on Michelle have not really talked about that and I recommend not iso'ing if that's what you did

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention] , I asked you yesterday who you scumread between Lavendar and Michelle and you said Lavendar. Could you explain that and do you still think I was distancing michelle??

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm
First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

You think they are blatantly pocketing one another, patting each other's back with "oh wow if mp7/dizzy is big brain mafia, i will be so embarrassed"?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Imagine saying I didn't actually try. The sad thing about this game is that I have been trying.

ehh, sorry. not saying you aren't trying. its just a sense of urgency and paranoia i guess that speed mentioned? well mp7 is super positive but it seems like its just her personaility to be uplifting every game. And so are you! sorry but yeah just seems a bit abrubt to say this is an easy game but I am just bad at scumhunting so i cant speak for everyone. This game has been a (pleasant) train wreck and its a hard game and i am super invested and don't want to screw this up in mylo

VOTES: (4 Majority)
1612 :
Michelle :
speedchuck(jeraldoo) :
MP7 :
Carotte(ted)(cobbler) :
Urist :
Dizzy :


I do not know how forum works so if someone wants to make a new list using a table if forum offers that or make a nicer voting list, that would be cool

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:22 pm Please win.

Are dead people allowed to give one more line after dying?
Is this like a "any last words" thing? pretty cool

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:53 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:43 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:40 am How is this game still hard? It's just 1612/Michelle/X?

*slaps dizzy with a newspaper*

Hawt, tbh.

LOL, cracks me up.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:37 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:45 am

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:34 am (M+7 was on both wagons, but joined Lav early so doesn't really count).

This should say "joined Lav late".

And yeah we could be making it more difficult than it actually is. If we take our tinfoil hats off for a second, we can double down on our d1 towncore, which was Carot, Dizzy, myself and MP7. That'd leave Michelle, 1612, and speedchuck. Which doesn't seem so crazy to me.

I don't know when you were in the D1 towncore. You were nearly executed and the only person who expressed strong trust in you was I think nanook. I think you are the Godfather and I really dislike your pushes this phase.

I should have posted while Alison was still alive but I was busy with irl stuff. I don't think I will scumread Urist despite being so inactive yesterday and saying "oof why vote Lavendar". I do think she should have just voted Michelle if she thought she was scummy. But she is green checked and the idea of her being godfather with of her logs is hard to imagine or it's super well player, i don't know im open to it though

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:55 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:37 pm I don't know when you were in the D1 towncore. You were nearly executed and the only person who expressed strong trust in you was I think nanook. I think you are the Godfather and I really dislike your pushes this phase.

When I said "our" towncore I meant mine and Dizzy's.
You know that I am probably going to vote for Michelle tomorrow yeah? The window to banish 1612 has passed (for now), that's why I was so upset that it landed on Lavender.

Yes if you are so upset Lavendar was being tunneled by Michelle and Alison, why not do something about it? I feel like you jsut let it happen. not just you like everyone and they just parked their vote on me and didn't listen to any of the things that i had to say and repeat.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:00 am Literally MYLO tomorrow. Anyone who encourages complacency about the gamestate should be investigated.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:40 am How is this game still hard? It's just 1612/Michelle/X?

Dizz its clearly a hard game if its mylo and we haven't gotten a single red flip. And you thought it was me or Lavendar yesterday and now you aren't trying to gamesolve anymore? I don't know I feel like both you and MP7 didn't actually try yesterday which is really strange considering it was Alsion's last day and our last misbanish.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:18 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.

This is garbo.

Picking up two of the easier targets left in the game and saying 'Yep, game is all but solved' when there isn't a single scumlynch to analyse for partner interactions is insane.

And yes, I know what I quoted there is not what you said. You can argue semantics. But this is a lazy pass at claiming a gamestate that isn't true. A gamestate that will cause complacency and guarantee that town loses.

Actually, I'm going to further elaborate on this. 1612, easily one of the worse players from my comparison, is not on this list. Why? Please tell me.
Cobbler-Cartenoid-whoever-else, a player that has now been replaced TWICE, is not on this list. (my experience finds that replacements are more often mafia, and yes I'm aware of the hypocrisy). Why is that?

Despite this suspect list consisting of nothing but complacent, 'I guess they're scum because no one else is' picks, we've had three straight days of banishments that went down the tubes. Why is that? Just bad luck?
Or, if I'm wrong, is there a specific reason to suspect me? (there might be one for Michelle, but I haven't read it yet)

I will read Michelle today.

Jeraldooo (the person you replaced ) had really coasty logs. I do think its something to re-evaluate since you are bringing really strong town vibes and relatable urgency from a mylo situation. I do want to talk about why you still think I am scummy here because you kinda just parked your vote on me instead of talking to Lavendar and michelle yesterday. We had one misbanish to use. Why no urgency yesterday back then?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:10 am If I'm going to play this game I will need some TL;DR summaries.

Like, for example, why did we lynch Lav? This is not a posture question. I want to know so I can evaluate people.

Okay I said this before but based off his meta gameplay, he is always super goofy (people sussed him for his weird way of talking and his fake cop claim), I think that's NAI
He also showed GENUINE frustration for being tunneled by you and gave so much effort into his legacy info that in my opinion I have never seen with Lavendar Goofy Mafia. He would usually jsut accept defeat and say oh well or set up wrong list of reads to mislead town for false info. It seemed very genuine and I have seen nothing from Michelle to suggest that she is town except for your one case Day 1 interaction with her swapping off of you.
The quote that Michelle quotes was not scummy at all, at worst it was wrong town mindset
The quote that YOU mentioned was a bit scummy and but after looking at the context, I think he was just speaking his mind on what was happening. I mean isn't that the reason you searched Urist n1? You thought he was scummy for trying to push you and Lavendar had similar thoughts which is why he said something that can be taken out of context.

In the end after looking at quotes and the game state, its jsut a selfish personal read on him. He keeps it real light and considering the emotion i've seen in his defense, I don't think it's his character to do that as mafia, only town. But I am a big sucker for acting so hopefully I am not tunneled here

TL;DR on yesterday : Alison and Lavendar were pushing reasons (some were logical and appeared scummy) on Lavendar. I had a strong personal read on Lavendar and thought some of the quotes that Michelle were using were being taken out of context. People parked a vote on me saying I had too much information when it was just literally me defending him and giving my gut feeling so I was being pushed. So [mention]speedchuck[/mention] , I really want to hear your thoughts on me because it seems like to me you have urgency today and I think you didn't participate at all for looking at Lavendar and Michelle. You are telling us that you are frustrated how some players are complacent but to me, you were also very complacent yesterday . But i get it if it was the weekend and people were busy, my weekdays are when I unfortunately have no time.

Guys, I am really sorry but I am really busy so I couldn't really participate for this night phase, but I'll be back in about 3 hours!

[mention]M Plus 7[/mention] , I really hope you don't think I am distancing Michelle but we will cross that bridge when we get there

Yeah I get it Alison, I don't think gameplay where you have to town read people who guilt trip is good gameplay. I've seen it happen and it makes a poor ending for the game. Leaves a really bad taste not just for myself when I am mafia but for others who are town and tricked. But sometimes reading the emotion gets you some reads which is why I have such strong opinions on Lavender.

If emotion didn't exist, mafia would not be fun in my opinion haha

The only thing that I don't get what Lavendar said and what he saw is how he viewed MP7 and Michelle as a team. That to me was strange but everything else for me was in boundaries indicating that he was town. I really wish he was here right now

This is just how we play in voice chat (not all of it is guilt tripping) but I do agree it's not the best type of sportsmanship town or mafia. Sorry about that, I retract my guilt-inducing statement [mention]M Plus 7[/mention], but you have scum read a team full of my town reads.

Sorry about if I am making the game unenjoyable for you guys, just trying my best to defend here. You're right, I'll try not to say those types of words in my future games here/mafia.gg in general

If you guys choose to banish me instead of Lavendar here, please look at Michelle for possible scum and reconsider

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:31 pm You know, 1612/Lavender/Urist is a possibility still.

You are in for a rough final 7 if you think that oh my

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:30 pm @1612 What do you think of Proto reading Lav as scum though? We know Proto was town so the read was genuine

OMGUS. Don't listen to Proto LOL. Shake my head.
I think he jsut didn't know how to react to Lavendar's memey tunneled vote on him. But if he was here right now and not modkilled, I would think he would agree with me that Lavendar is much more town than michelle based off the fight between them.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:26 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:24 pm I need to re-consider the 1612 and Lavender both being town world though. That means...

X/speed/Michelle? where X is most likely Cobbler but could be Urist or Dizzy?

Ugh.

Yeah, if Lav and 1612 are actually both town I hate this game. Actually I think Urist has been pretty underwhelming for being copped town.

well get prepared because it's going to be a real rough final 7 if alison doesn't swap off to michelle

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:23 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:22 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:21 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:20 pm I might be tunneled with Lavendar town and Michelle tunneling him as townas well, but I jsut ahd to give my two cents with Alison and Michelle not reading his legacy info at all and how town it was. Like Alison did you still not read the long paragraph he gave? I don't understand, i really dont

I read the paragraph. I'm not convinced it makes him town. Do you have an argument why it's townie?

I would be going into OGI personal reads that you asked me not go into...?

Talking about meta is okay.

Okay I said this before but based off his meta gameplay, he is always super goofy (people sussed him for his weird way of talking and his fake cop claim), I think that's NAI
He also showed GENUINE frustration for being tunneled by you and gave so much effort into his legacy info that in my opinion I have never seen with Lavendar Goofy Mafia. He would usually jsut accept defeat and say oh well or set up wrong list of reads to mislead town for false info. It seemed very genuine and I have seen nothing from Michelle to suggest that she is town except for your one case Day 1 interaction with her swapping off of you.
The quote that Michelle quotes was not scummy at all, at worst it was wrong town mindset
The quote that YOU mentioned was a bit scummy and but after looking at the context, I think he was just speaking his mind on what was happening. I mean isn't that the reason you searched Urist n1? You thought he was scummy for trying to push you and Lavendar had similar thoughts which is why he said something that can be taken out of context.

In the end after looking at quotes and the game state, its jsut a selfish personal read on him. He keeps it real light and considering the emotion i've seen in his defense, I don't think it's his character to do that as mafia, only town. But I am a big sucker for acting so hopefully I am not tunneled here

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:22 pm @Urist @speedchuck @tedxtr Are you guys here?

I'll move to 1612 in the end if nobody wants to move to Lav.

Lav/1612 not self pressing is weird.

What is self pressing?

I mean I don't think my personal read on Lavendar based off previous games is necesarily OGI? I mean don't you guys also do that with each other here on forum?

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:21 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:20 pm I might be tunneled with Lavendar town and Michelle tunneling him as townas well, but I jsut ahd to give my two cents with Alison and Michelle not reading his legacy info at all and how town it was. Like Alison did you still not read the long paragraph he gave? I don't understand, i really dont

I read the paragraph. I'm not convinced it makes him town. Do you have an argument why it's townie?

I would be going into OGI personal reads that you asked me not go into...?

I have to vote lavendar here, this sucks it really does. none of the two in questions are even here to give me something to work with or talk about

I might be tunneled with Lavendar town and Michelle tunneling him as townas well, but I jsut ahd to give my two cents with Alison and Michelle not reading his legacy info at all and how town it was. Like Alison did you still not read the long paragraph he gave? I don't understand, i really dont

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:14 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:10 pm Yeah, it does feel like 1612 kind of just decided to read Lavender town and Michelle scum. Whether it's cause of distancing Michelle or hard defending Lavender, I don't know. Maybe the former actually.

I really don't get how you guys are seeing this world. IF i was teamed with michelle, it would be in my best interest to push lavendar and sheep Alison's vote. But again, DID NOT SEE THE LOGIC

If you were teamed with Michelle, it would be in your best interest to say you hate Michelle, but in reality vote with me. Which is what you did.

I would be VERY happy if you decided to swap to Michelle, and that was my suggestion for the entirety of day 3 after you guys started to tunnel lavendar. I DONT want lavendar to be the vote

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:12 pm I do apologize if this is upsetting you though, 1612. I am enjoying playing with you. I'm just trying to figure this out.

I am super stressed right now I will tell you that for trying to give my town reads out there instead of just sheeping alison, but I am still having fun no worries thank you

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:10 pm Yeah, it does feel like 1612 kind of just decided to read Lavender town and Michelle scum. Whether it's cause of distancing Michelle or hard defending Lavender, I don't know. Maybe the former actually.

I really don't get how you guys are seeing this world. IF i was teamed with michelle, it would be in my best interest to push lavendar and sheep Alison's vote. But again, DID NOT SEE THE LOGIC

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:08 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:07 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:02 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.

if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it

Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?

mp7 i gave you my full reads list and you PROMISED to digest it. cmonnn

I did, but like... I'm missing it still. Why can't either of us be a deepwolf here? Help me get there.

It's just my reads, both of you have had good town reads and made some solid steps to get us to game state we are now. And it's confirmation bias but I think the fact that you guys aren't pushing Lavendar which in my eyes is more town than Michelle is a good sign as well.

But if you're town you have no information, so what's keeping the team from having one deepwolf? I mean, that's a reasonable possibility, right?

wait, please. I jsut said why ALison is mistaken with that team and why Michelle should not be considered part of that circle. Because I read the reasoning on Michelle and read the reasononing on Lavendar and it does not sit right with me. I am sorry if I am making things hard for you guys, I just thought I would contribute a little more since I am new and wanted to just put in my two cents. I do think Alison's deep town circle has one deep wolf and that's michelle. If you are talking about whether there is another deepwolf among you, I don't see any information to suggest that.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:03 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:02 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.

if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it

Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?

mp7 i gave you my full reads list and you PROMISED to digest it. cmonnn

I did, but like... I'm missing it still. Why can't either of us be a deepwolf here? Help me get there.

It's just my reads, both of you have had good town reads and made some solid steps to get us to game state we are now. And it's confirmation bias but I think the fact that you guys aren't pushing Lavendar which in my eyes is more town than Michelle is a good sign as well.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:01 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:00 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.

if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it

Alright, tell me more about your read on Cobbler. Why is it Cobbler and not Dizzy or me?

mp7 i gave you my full reads list and you PROMISED to digest it. cmonnn

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:55 pm I actually think 1612 and Michelle teamed together could make a lot of sense despite 1612's push there.

if i was a scum team with michelle i would hard push lavendar since Alison was already tunneled. i don't understand how you think I am distancing here. It's just michelle IN MY HONEST OPINION take it or leave it

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider

Why would your flip give no information?

You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??

So you want to flip Michelle specifically, but what if she's town? Wouldn't we then have the same exact problem but with your name in there instead?

That problem doesn't exist at least for my perspective. I would say my opinion on the situation is not v/w. I just hink Michelle's push for Lavendar was awful for picking specific quotes to push. It's not a if one flips villager the other is scum to me, its just lavendar is more town than michelle.

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:48 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider

Why would your flip give no information?

You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??

Didn't you go to great lengths to establish an anti-Michelle legacy? And emphasize how you can read Lavender really well because you have meta with him? If you were flipping town what makes you think we would vote wrong in that scenario?

my flip gets you nowhere with the michelle and lavendar vote. you paired me with both of them, it really doesn't do anything once i flip blue
Really bad use of our one mis-banish

Well this sucks, my town read just left the game because he was being tunneled and no one but me actually listened to him and read his logs so he can't even push michelle with me. i feel so alone LOL

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:46 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:45 pmBecause my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider

Why would your flip give no information?

You would still be stuck on the Michelle and Lavendar and have no info between them which I think you would end up voting wrong in a final 7 situation and losing. like what, i really dont get it. am i crazy??

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm 1612, I think the fact that you have only one scum team possibility actually makes you very NOT town.

my read on that is based off how solely how i feel on the lavendar and michelle situation. if im wrong then I still don't hink I am far too off the mark with the rest of my POE. the latter two are just POE and there is nothing to suggest that those two can't be a team with either of the two we are talking about

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:43 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:37 pm Alison, should we yeet 1612?

I don't think I'd execute 1612 before Lavender.

Why though?

Because my flip gives no information and you are suggesting that we use our one misbanish on me instead. Please reconsider

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:42 pm

1612 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:41 pm I love how Urist and Mp7 are voting WITH jeraldoo(speed), what is this gameplay?
Please vote Michelle tomorrow and please take a GOOD look on Lavendar and reconsider. I really am confident in this read I have on Lavendar and don't see the world Michelle is pushing

Are you trying to shade us?

not at all, its just a bad vote. that vote basically means you think jeraldooo is town or bussing? it doesnt make sense