The Syndicate

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Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:57 pm I mean....in theory, we chop Grogu and then Kza, Nutella, Daisy and Mac all get souped of that group is town.

That leaves 7 players, including Quas. In a world with 2 wolves left, that’s 4 vs 2 vs 1.

If they guess one more townie, it’s 3 vs 2 vs 1 and we just lose.

That’s a lotta ifs but I’m pretty nervous ngl.

falcon gets revived i think so thats +1 town

also one of the wolves is 112

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:50 pm If Nutella is not the wolf with Grogu and she's just been playing a bad game then Esooa and Grogu are the wolves, if Esooa is not then Mac is.

People are saying that Epi is a wolf, where is the base on that? All I see is Nutella, Mac and the 3p scum reading him based on me? as if I was the wolf which is outrageous considering I yeeted Michelle (whom Nutella tried to save by lynching Kyle instead) and I'm pushing a wolf right about now!
Is there another reason why Epi could be a wolf besides association with me? Because if there is I'd like to see it and I'd like to see it explained clearly like I've cased the people I suspect. To me, Epi has been just town, he is in my towncore, him and Jack.

What if it's Esooa? Have you guys seen her town game here? She hyperposts when she is town, she thunderdomes and she scum hunts and ask questions heck she even shitposts but in this game all I've seen is a frozen Esooa with empty accusations with no follow ups and ill intended comments.
Mac knows her, Nutella does too, you two know I'm right, so why are you guys not pushing her huh?

Nutella i saw that you said that maybe Esooa could be the wolf but don't tell us why. Why? Why are you afraid to case her? Are you afraid of being wrong the entire game and pride its getting in the way? Must I remind you what is at stake?

You guys believe in Grogu so let's agree to yeet Esooa then. I'm not yeeting Epi unless you guys show me what I missed about him and the case gotta be solid as a diamond for me to go there.

how did i get dragged into this

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:26 pm i made 1200 posts in this game and no longer care

gotta get me one a them "life" thingies

no what you need is a 2nd game :P

also pretty sure jack is town

i said it earlier but i was coming into today with the minfset that we'd prolly just blast grogu unless a more obvious target presented itself purely to guarantee a wolf flip

trading 1 for 1 town for wolf is like, pretty fine

if town is able to kill at a 50/50 rate while also blocking multiple kills a night and still loses then game is broken and you just forget it and move on

nutella has been town meta

killed a wolf early

and is an un-cced dayvig

like, i get it if youre mad at her but if shes a wolf then there is a town who is not ccing her, and at that point the game is out of your hands and you can blame them for throwing

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:04 pm Idk tbh I find too many people wolfy and doubt I can win outside of sheer luck so I'll probably just vote Grogu

Sorry my game has faltered badly

believable take

like real talk, gamestate is hard right now

and everyone acting like its easy is either tilted or a wolf. on both sides. just gl distinguishing between the two

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:57 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:46 am
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:47 pm of not him then 112. like odk how or why we keep the known wolf alive. them just slanking and doing 0 except to vote where ever it is convient.
if you kill 112 i am forced to wolfside as an unkillable player

would advise against that in this gamestate
You are already wolfsiding sthp!

sir i pushed all the wolves

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:55 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:31 am
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:29 pm yeah let's just kill Guilo since he's claimed 400 roles and pretends the seemer just doesn't exist

[VOTE: Guilo] aubergine
endorse this

honestly not sure what to make of the grogu v daisy stuff. both have felt very believable at times

guillo has been pretty consistently wolfy the whole way through

daisy's emotions regarding it have been more like what i would expect a town who really believes grogu is an outed wolf to act like

guillo has been very cocky about the whole thing
No you wish I was a wolf so you'd get easy towncred points. I'm not cocky, if you are pro-town, you guys are, you, Nutella and Esooa, even KZA at some point but at least he came to his senses about Daisy.

The way I read this game is that people like Nutella and Esooa are scared that I'm right because if they are town, then they'd have to eat their own words such as "If Guillo is town, he is negative utility" or "He needs to start playing town if he is town" or "Guillo has been cocky the whole game".

Here is what I think. If Nutella and Esooa are town, they are the negative utilities OR they are partners and are openwolfing right now and they are Grogu's partners.

Nutella is heavily spewed wolf by BoKnows and Michelle. I already cased this but town will choose to die first than yeeting Nutella here, I don't know why. Charisma? META? Seniority? Clout? Maybe, I've seen it in every site. People rather yeet the noob with great reads than the scummy forum regular. This is a fact!

Esooa made efforts to save Grogu yesterday leading to Chard's mischop, she cased and pushed Chard's town clear (Daisy) today and continues to do so. We almost yeeted Daisy today if it wasn't because KZA came clean about the roleblock.
If you read Esooa today, she is "scum" reading and witch hunting Chard's legacy and everyone that was spewed town as a result of his death.

These two gotta be their partners and they are both on Epi who is correctly siding with town here. If these two are so openwolfing now is because they are close to winning. And you LordQuas pushing on me means it is most likely that you are a survivor that wins with either alignment and you see that your chances of winning are higher with scum now.

no i think youve just been wolfy and weird today as well as the whole game

youve also had very towny and believable moments though which is why i havent been hard pushing you that much

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:01 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:24 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:48 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:20 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:56 am are there 3 wolves left if we killed the seemer?
2-3

6-7 wolves at game start
2-3 dead, one is 112
ah okay, well there's definitely 7 at game start, and may as well remove 112 from this, so 6 at game start, 2-3 dead, leaves 3-4 ? doesn't it?
you are correct it was late and i literally fell asleep after sending this lol

i do think 6 is plausible though simply b/c there was a 3p that is gonna usually wolf side. Dunno full setup but from what i've seen i would have prolly done 6 wolves with this
didn't the original setup have 8 wolves? I can't imagine removing 4 roles and 2 of them being scum, like ever

yeah prolly not then. original setup was just likely wolfsided by numbers so unlikely that would change

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:55 am Why wouldn't you count for parity?

because im not a wolf?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:04 am Can the wolves soup kill you Quas?

i dunno, maybe. Depends on how the soup kill works. Doesn't really give them anything though since I dont count for parity either way i would assume

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:51 am @LordQuas please tell me you don't count for wolf parity

not to my knowledge

i mean, i'm not a wolf. wouldn't really make sense

man this role is great

i just get to post random takes on things without worrying about looking towny and if town loses i still win

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:04 am
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[VOTE: daisy] aubergine
soooo according to Mac this kind of stuff is okay. It’s legit stuff right here.

this is not mean not even borderline. this is good town work . this is why i am scum. she explained in a clear way why she is voting me.

and im the one being told to step away from the game for my mental health when I was pointing out how esooa been doing 0 in game and tried to call me out.

like there is a ton more I can use as examples but what is even the point. this is a a TvM, town vs mafia and this sort of thing happens.

you are gonna just say I'm the obnoxious one. or
you will probably call me a snowflake and go find a safe space.

or both.

ngl i dont think you have the moral highground here daisy

you spent maybe a dozen posts calling everyone idiots after they literally voted you with no insults

i think that nutella post is fine yeah

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:47 pm of not him then 112. like odk how or why we keep the known wolf alive. them just slanking and doing 0 except to vote where ever it is convient.

if you kill 112 i am forced to wolfside as an unkillable player

would advise against that in this gamestate

holy shit its 11pm what the fuck

why is nobody ever on when i am, feels very sad

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:13 pm So I haven’t caught up. Seems like people think Goru is lying now. I’m sure there’s a good reason for that.

I’m skeptical of there being any good reason to suspect Guillo. Borderline my top town. Maybe my actual top town depending on who died last night as I’ve forgotten.

ngl i thought you died

grogu is prolly also fine kill

i was coming into today thinking about peddling the killing him line regardless b/c it is a very "safe" kill in that it guarantees we have killed at least one wolf between him & chardonnay

always the off chance he flips another mafia role as well and then game gets spice

god this feels like half the game is phighter rn and it sucks ass

daisy v grogu being tvt would really be the icing on the cake for this game

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:29 pm yeah let's just kill Guilo since he's claimed 400 roles and pretends the seemer just doesn't exist

[VOTE: Guilo] aubergine

endorse this

honestly not sure what to make of the grogu v daisy stuff. both have felt very believable at times

guillo has been pretty consistently wolfy the whole way through

daisy's emotions regarding it have been more like what i would expect a town who really believes grogu is an outed wolf to act like

guillo has been very cocky about the whole thing

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:48 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:20 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:56 am are there 3 wolves left if we killed the seemer?
2-3

6-7 wolves at game start
2-3 dead, one is 112
ah okay, well there's definitely 7 at game start, and may as well remove 112 from this, so 6 at game start, 2-3 dead, leaves 3-4 ? doesn't it?

you are correct it was late and i literally fell asleep after sending this lol

i do think 6 is plausible though simply b/c there was a 3p that is gonna usually wolf side. Dunno full setup but from what i've seen i would have prolly done 6 wolves with this

mac felt pretty scummy for awhile but then he took charge and he feels pretty towny now

obv lock clear upon daisy w flip but even regardless of that

daisy feels very caught for the wrong reasons tbh

also @ grogu & guillo w/w readers i wish i was able to see the world through your crazy eyes

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:56 am are there 3 wolves left if we killed the seemer?

2-3

6-7 wolves at game start
2-3 dead, one is 112

Grogu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:05 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:56 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:52 pm I didn't get any message about two actions but I also don't have a role that it would function on either
How would that work? I didn’t check in the thread until just now when thread was opened. If I had a second check after thread is open and I see who died isn’t that broken?

you'd get told you could double act and then you'd get two checks
@Grogu presumably you'd be told via a PM from LongCon.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.

you can join capage in finding love

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:19 pm Chardonnay should've had 2 checks the night he claimed to red Grogu

Figure it out.

LOL

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:08 pm Stop! Grogu elected me town leader last night. I don't care if Grogu is scum or town, and I don't care that I am literally the least qualified person in the thread to take this role up, but TOO BAD!

I am town leader now, and here is what we are going to do:

First, we're all going to stop just OMGUSing each other. It is HIGHLY unproductive, derailing the thread and actual wolf hunting, and exactly what the wolves want.

Second, we are going to give KZA a little space. KZA said they would reveal their info once Grogu has said who they checked last night. If KZA does not reveal this info after that, we should definitely yeet them. If Grogu does not come back into the thread, then that is also a pretty bad sign.

Third, we are going to let Daisy explain what Daisy is trying to explain. Chard claimed a green-check on Daisy, so IF Daisy has an ironclad mech reason to not believe Chard, then REGARDLESS OF DAISY's alignment, we can assume Chard was a wolf.

Fourth, we are going to be civil as we mercilessly hunt down the remaining wolves and kill them in as painful of a manner as we possibly can.

pretty sure this is how i would play this as a wolf rn but its more of a playstyle thing

if game gets hard would keep sean in mind as a potential deepwolf unless i'm forgetting one of the fifty bajillion mechs in this game

talking myself into townreading him the more i say tho

throw mac in there too maybe i dunno

wanna say no more then 2 wolves in daisy/epi/guillo tbh

mostly b/c i think they'd try to go for a distance bus of some sort with at least one of them if thats the exact team

having the last 3 wolves who make up the poe all align together feels like a weird play

not sure how to figure out which is the town though

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:02 pm Never mind. I'm going to do something else.

I'm not mafia and people should know better.

But I can't sit here and read goddamn 144 pages.

Not with two jobs and three kids.

Lynch me if you want.

I don't care.

I'm done trying.

I'll vote, but that's all.

I'm tired of the passive aggressive bullshit too, like you all don't know I'm not reading the thread.

prolly the most entitled post i've ever read

thats a hard bar to clear, gratz

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:34 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:20 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:11 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:07 pm [VOTE: Guilo] aubergine

@Grogu tell us your check
What check fool! Chardonay was the cop!
How do you know Chard was the cop, and not possibly seemer? Your case last night doesn't really say why Grogu is scum, it kind of just assumes Grogu is scum, and makes a bunch of implications off that.

I especially didn't like your reference to me in your case. "Seanzie playing for the wolves now. Mafia have him under their control." This feels to me like you want to scare me into believing you without thinking critically about it, which I don't think looks good.
I made a case during the night. Read it.

I trust in the flip. You guys been hunting for the seemer and you want to believe that we yeeted a wolf because you don't want to admit you've been WRONG! First it was G-man, he was the seeemer, then now is Chard, who is next? Me? You?
I DID read your case. You DID NOT address Chard or the Seemer at all. Your whole case is based on the presupposition that Esooa and Grogu are wolves. Esooa strong-defending Grogu could be wolfy, sure, but I've also seen town do that sort of stuff. You say you trust in the flip, but why? Seemer exists, right? How are you so confident in the flip with this in mind? I'm NOT saying that Chard is DEFINTELY seemer, but it is a possibility we need to consider before blindly yeeting Grogu.

Made was the only one who thought G-man might be seemer, and I honestly have no idea why he thought that when DoO literally told us that wasn't the case, and we have no reason to doubt DoO.

I don't WANT to believe anything, All I want to do is figure out what is going on. Part of that is keeping an open mind to different possibilities. Your mind seems to be completely closed to certain possibilities, and I don't see you having a reason why that is the case you made. Do you even care about what KZA has to say? Because from my perspective, it looks like you WANT to believe that Grogu is wolf (or maybe you want everyone else to believe it), and even though there is clearly information that needs to be heard before anyone except maybe KZA or a wolf could have an informed opinion on if Grogu is town or scum.

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if guillo flips town this is nagl for sean imo. reads like appealing to a known town

could be wrong, i vibe with what they're saying

catching up on the day now

in hindsight i could have done this the day the thread was shut down and i showed up late

unfortunate, thought i had longer before eod

janitors or any flip messing bs sucks mega ass and is always unfun though wow

gl winning faction

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:59 pm
chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:47 pm I am the cop and my red check on groggy is legit. I was hoping that the cover established between daisy, kza, Mac and I that even if I don't get grogu flipped I cpuld atleast get another check tonight.

I didnt want to end this day phase on grogu bc i was afriad it was too obvious and scum would janitor me. Esp if he wasn't getti g traction

I didnt have n1 result.

N2 I got a green chevk on Daisy. I used the one shot ablity that bypasses blocks and crap. So she's 100% town

Last night i got a red check on grogu
Okay.

[VOTE: Grogu] aubergine

But like... looking at my role PM, I thought I was Spiderman Noir...? I also have a redcheck on Grogu though, so it is a bit of a moot point.

lowest quality cop cover i've maybe ever seen

claiming a red +green peek is super fine at this stage in the game

even if it wasn't to save yourself

ftr i was hard defending chardonnay up until today

curse those PRs and their weird actions

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:52 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:47 pm how u doin jack btw

i have a gut read that you're town
Tired but good.

I have a gut read that you’re 3P.

your gut may be onto something

chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:50 pm I mad at how often this forum likes to cfd me right before eod when I'm often not even around to talk about it

Like 3/4 of my games have ended that way Christ sake syndicate

isn't eod not for awhile

wasn't much of a cfd neither

chardonnay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:47 pm I am the cop and my red check on groggy is legit. I was hoping that the cover established between daisy, kza, Mac and I that even if I don't get grogu flipped I cpuld atleast get another check tonight.

I didnt want to end this day phase on grogu bc i was afriad it was too obvious and scum would janitor me. Esp if he wasn't getti g traction

I didnt have n1 result.

N2 I got a green chevk on Daisy. I used the one shot ablity that bypasses blocks and crap. So she's 100% town

Last night i got a red check on grogu

ok

[VOTE: Grogu] aubergine

i didnt pay attention to any of the earlier fpses except rachel's but i'll believe this one

how u doin jack btw

i have a gut read that you're town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:45 pm Quas I was serious about my townread on Seanzie.

*shuffles foot*

yeah i know

i think his past few posts have been trending up for me

i just feel no need to move my vote rn b/c i want to keep wagons competitive and i'd prolly vote chardonnay

i saw that i hit 322 posts earlier today btw, nice

also just shoveled snow for two and a half hours

would not recommend

red check talk make brain hurt

ouchie

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:08 pm Chardonnay

So convinced Grogu is mafia they fake a red check and hold it for so long the real cop outs

Votes Seanzie and not Grogu

I’m like “yeah, that’s right” but I’m also like “this shit doesn’t fit with my worldview.”

theres some very obvious joke potential here

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:08 pm Actually, yeah, that Seanzie joke post is hella pure.

j o k e a r e a d s

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