The Syndicate

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:02 pm syn was so close to shooting guillo lol

but town prob still wouldnt have gotten there on mac in time so

gg
I was mad when he subbed in, cause he had a cold unbiased mindset free of pocketing. I literally yelled at LC for subbing in someone at LYLO, who subs people at LYLO? lol

falcon was accidentally given spoilers in spec chat, so we coulda resurrected a player who knew the whole scum team instead.

Now that I know what a Mjolnir is, next time I see a one, I'm smashing it on Long Con's head.

Good game wolfies! It's too bad town couldn't pull it out, but our competition was strong this game.

Vote D

A0 B1 C3 D2

get em Pharrell

Y'all hammered with 24+ hours left in a game with a soupkill?

smh

I said I was gonna afk, but I remembered my abilities and wanted to look into that.

Anyway, back to afk

I believe you @reywaS, but there were some better options.

reywaS wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:05 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:04 pm Why would use a watch on me, when Marmot gets told who if anyone visits me?
Irrelevant now. I did and you were not targeted.

Yeah, ngl, this was a little odd.

I'll be afk today. If anyone needs anything specific from me, ping me.

I'll be around tomorrow to catch up, sort through things, and vote.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:10 am Sooo anyone wanna catch me up on the key headlines since SoD? I obviously see no deaths & Made fakeclaimed but...any other claims? Any new lines of thought? Etc.

Cool thanks.

I'm in the same boat as this tuber.

I should just be dead, but I'm not gonna complain.

Except for the part where I wasn't planning on catching up on this game.

DOOM's vote is -2, so she does not want to vote on wagon

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:56 pm I might be late to the party (or hell, I might have talked about this already, I don't know), but given that this is an open setup with claiming permitted, couldn't the mafia have fake Spider Man claims that appear on the front page?

Not all roles in the OP are in the game, so they don't have fake claims, but they could get lucky and hit a vacant slot

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:52 pm cfd is weak and lame and bad.

It is mechanically the right decision because we're guaranteed to have the doc alive going into night.

@Made, if you're town, you're dead tonight regardless

It's either Michelle today then Kyle tomorrow, or Kyle today then Michelle tomorrow.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:44 pm Damn, there's an art contest?

If there wasn't enough going on already...

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine

I'm perfectly fine with this choice, I'd just assumed we'd left.

Guillo

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:28 pm
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:24 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:13 pm I vote A

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:14 pm CONTEST VOTE A
A1 B0

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:14 pm I also vote A..like he has an eyepatch over a mask

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:16 pm VOTE A

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:17 pm Context vote B

A2 B1

I vote A

Contest Drawing votes:

A: 4
B: 1
I vote B

A:4
B:2

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:14 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:11 pm
Contest #1

Two entrants qualified for today's contest! Their task was to draw a Spider-Man picture, and I now put the entries out to you for judgment!

The winner of the contest will receive a Prize.

Please work together to track the vote totals as you vote. Maybe we can standardize it - vote like this:

CONTEST VOTE A
A4 B6

^ In this example, the votes beforehand would have been sitting at A3 and B6, meaning three votes for picture A and six for picture B.

Alright, without further ado:

ENTRY A

ENTRY B

Kick ass.

Vote A.
btw, I vote B

A:5
B:3

Thanks for the reminder

VOTE A
A6 B3

I wonder if Mac and nutella are only voicing suspicion of each other when they're surpassed by the other in post count.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 9:33 pm should i just out all my role reads so the people who realise they've outed themselves can like, i dunno, out their legacy or something?

Lol

Maaaaaaybe listing just their names is a better idea, but still not great.

I'm just assuming I'm dead tonight and that these things are important to get out there.

Well, since Michelle appears to be going down today and won't admit it, Michelle visited the SPIDER-MAN last night, which is why I was inclined to believe her doc claim at first, but she hasn't admitted this herself, so she's probably just scum here.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:54 pmJack?

Do you know...

Jack???

[VOTE: Kyle] aubergine

Coming back around to our resident zenmaster.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:47 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Who'd you protect last night?

@Michelle

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:52 pm soup is not good food

KZA is no longer confirmed town

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Who'd you protect last night?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:35 pm So does this mean we ask the docs who they targeted? They can't stop the soup anyway.

Or do we just bake Michelle?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:08 am
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows
Nah

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:50 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:39 am @Kylemii is probably actually mafia.
nah

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:40 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:40 pm @MacDougall here's some nutella/BK interactions for you to dive into.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:56 pm
Spoiler: show
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:08 am
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows
Nah

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:23 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:20 pm can we just flip 112s whole wagon to prove me right
don't like this post.
I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112
meh

i just don't see it your way

if you're town maybe chill and hear other perspectives

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:25 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:22 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
don't like this post.
I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112
wanting to flip a bunch of people to prove your fallacy right doesn't ping town to me.
yeah

and like. we are not just nuking a wagon that's dumb, game will develop beyond that. and michelle is just town so

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:47 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:46 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:43 pm look at these shining beacons of townyness like LordQuas move their vote around frequently, and move without too much discretion, while others choose to hold firm in their 112 vote, what could be the difference here
Bruh half the 112 voters haven't been in thread since you came and shat on them lol
boknows and falcon both were, both the people most scummy on 112
Ok

I feel like falcon is towny and bo is p null and simply having their vote on 112 isn't enough for me to sr them

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:56 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:52 pm Also the particular dynamic that falcon and bo are from 112s homesite may mean they are specifically more confident in that vote. People familiar w each other will focus on those people more so while I agree that in general vote parking is wolfy I think in this case there is more nuance and they may just have a good/confident scumtead on 112.

If you weren't aware of this background do consider it, if you were it kinda concerns me that you are discrediting their reads on 112 tbh.
you realize 112 made a not villagery read on bo already, right?
...ok? is that relevant to my point or are you just saying i should consider the reverse

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:05 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:00 pm @nutella I will say that im concerned 112 didnt vote boknows after expressing that view

but I also noticed several people talking about bo being wolfy and not voting them

it's weird that 112 can drive up some sort of wagon but bo can't
yeah i get what you mean, there's arguments for both sides

112's vote is on michelle wtf

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:31 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:05 pm the rest are:

chargonnay
DaisyCloud
Enrique
Epignosis
G-man
Kylemii
Macdougall (he prob is town but I haven't read much from him at all)
Marmot
Master radishes
rewaS
Seanzie
TSP
Out of these I'm p comfortable calling mac, master radishes, epignosis, and kylemii town for now. Rest feels like a good starting poe (I'd put guillo and boknows back in it prob, and maybe dya)

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:53 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:51 pm Yeah I'm actually okay with BK's explanation for suspecting 112 since that's kind of what pinged me early on about 112.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:05 pm BoKnows reminds me of his scum game in Shadow Corridors where he was skating by and asking innocent little newbie questions about jargon.

Would like a lot more from him.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:42 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:41 pm Ayo... wtf is a hotdog costume man posts?
I'm not falling for your cutesy act Mr. PBR

You are Mafia and I will prove this when you're done pretending

Interesting progression on BK
Hm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:53 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:51 pm Yeah I'm actually okay with BK's explanation for suspecting 112 since that's kind of what pinged me early on about 112.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:05 pm BoKnows reminds me of his scum game in Shadow Corridors where he was skating by and asking innocent little newbie questions about jargon.

Would like a lot more from him.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:42 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:41 pm Ayo... wtf is a hotdog costume man posts?
I'm not falling for your cutesy act Mr. PBR

You are Mafia and I will prove this when you're done pretending

Interesting progression on BK

Idk @KZA I thought this was pretty interesting

Can you talk through it a bit

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:31 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:28 pm Switched to Made. Was on Mac no momentum there. If I had to choose between the two leading wagons to be wolf my money is on Made. The wagon on Sawyer doesn't make sense to me. Admittedly Made's game has been pretty okay, but the whole point system with little explanation seems like a "cheap" way to get by.
wuh oh

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:32 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:32 pm I think Bo is TWTBW there lol
maybe.gif

Here's a compilation of all of nutella's interactions with BK on Day 1.

A lot of this does look hedgey to me. The second one in particular where nutella tells esooa to chill and hear other perspectives when esooa calls BK town. That's pretty scummy.

No stop

Bad Marmot?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:39 pm My gut instinct is like “suspect players who want to let the docs resolve” cause like Michelle is the obvious wolf between Michelle and Made. There’s no real reason to CC the doc especially with soupkill or whatever in play.

Ergo Made is town. Ergo Michelle is wolf.

But like “suggests bad ideas” is not 100% correlated with wolves by a long shot and idk Nutella feels townie. Course, I kinda suck at reading Nutella these days.

I said that not knowing how a soupkill worked exactly. Didn't know it was incincible.

Also I'm confirmed town, so you can't FoS me

@MacDougall here's some nutella/BK interactions for you to dive into.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:56 pm
Spoiler: show
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:08 am
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows
Nah

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:23 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:20 pm can we just flip 112s whole wagon to prove me right
don't like this post.
I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112
meh

i just don't see it your way

if you're town maybe chill and hear other perspectives

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:25 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:22 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:20 pm can we just flip 112s whole wagon to prove me right
don't like this post.
I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112
wanting to flip a bunch of people to prove your fallacy right doesn't ping town to me.
yeah

and like. we are not just nuking a wagon that's dumb, game will develop beyond that. and michelle is just town so

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:48 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:47 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:46 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:43 pm look at these shining beacons of townyness like LordQuas move their vote around frequently, and move without too much discretion, while others choose to hold firm in their 112 vote, what could be the difference here
Bruh half the 112 voters haven't been in thread since you came and shat on them lol
boknows and falcon both were, both the people most scummy on 112
Ok

I feel like falcon is towny and bo is p null and simply having their vote on 112 isn't enough for me to sr them

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:56 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:52 pm Also the particular dynamic that falcon and bo are from 112s homesite may mean they are specifically more confident in that vote. People familiar w each other will focus on those people more so while I agree that in general vote parking is wolfy I think in this case there is more nuance and they may just have a good/confident scumtead on 112.

If you weren't aware of this background do consider it, if you were it kinda concerns me that you are discrediting their reads on 112 tbh.
you realize 112 made a not villagery read on bo already, right?
...ok? is that relevant to my point or are you just saying i should consider the reverse

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:05 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:00 pm @nutella I will say that im concerned 112 didnt vote boknows after expressing that view

but I also noticed several people talking about bo being wolfy and not voting them

it's weird that 112 can drive up some sort of wagon but bo can't
yeah i get what you mean, there's arguments for both sides

112's vote is on michelle wtf

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:31 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:05 pm the rest are:

chargonnay
DaisyCloud
Enrique
Epignosis
G-man
Kylemii
Macdougall (he prob is town but I haven't read much from him at all)
Marmot
Master radishes
rewaS
Seanzie
TSP
Out of these I'm p comfortable calling mac, master radishes, epignosis, and kylemii town for now. Rest feels like a good starting poe (I'd put guillo and boknows back in it prob, and maybe dya)

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:53 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:51 pm Yeah I'm actually okay with BK's explanation for suspecting 112 since that's kind of what pinged me early on about 112.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:05 pm BoKnows reminds me of his scum game in Shadow Corridors where he was skating by and asking innocent little newbie questions about jargon.

Would like a lot more from him.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:42 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:41 pm Ayo... wtf is a hotdog costume man posts?
I'm not falling for your cutesy act Mr. PBR

You are Mafia and I will prove this when you're done pretending

Interesting progression on BK
Hm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:53 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 am We're voting out BoKnows

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:51 pm Yeah I'm actually okay with BK's explanation for suspecting 112 since that's kind of what pinged me early on about 112.

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:05 pm BoKnows reminds me of his scum game in Shadow Corridors where he was skating by and asking innocent little newbie questions about jargon.

Would like a lot more from him.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:42 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:41 pm Ayo... wtf is a hotdog costume man posts?
I'm not falling for your cutesy act Mr. PBR

You are Mafia and I will prove this when you're done pretending

Interesting progression on BK

Idk @KZA I thought this was pretty interesting

Can you talk through it a bit

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:31 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:28 pm Switched to Made. Was on Mac no momentum there. If I had to choose between the two leading wagons to be wolf my money is on Made. The wagon on Sawyer doesn't make sense to me. Admittedly Made's game has been pretty okay, but the whole point system with little explanation seems like a "cheap" way to get by.
wuh oh

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:32 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:32 pm I think Bo is TWTBW there lol
maybe.gif

Here's a compilation of all of nutella's interactions with BK on Day 1.

A lot of this does look hedgey to me. The second one in particular where nutella tells esooa to chill and hear other perspectives when esooa calls BK town. That's pretty scummy.

So does this mean we ask the docs who they targeted? They can't stop the soup anyway.

I confirmed with our host, nothing can stop the soup kill. Blocks, protects, redirects. Nothing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:24 pm No I think you'll find that crackpot theories are kinda my thing tbh lol

Great, then you'll love the zen tell

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:14 pm
Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:02 pm Lol I mean @made there's def a valid mechanical argument to let you two resolve overnight so we get a guaranteed save rather than risking it from the pov of those of us who don't know for sure. Don't fault me for thinking of it that way, it's the safer play, but I do believe you more so meh
Mafia is souping tonight. Soup can't be protected/deflected or anything of that mess. I'm dying regardless. I
f michelle lives and I die, then i get targeted by Janitor, that's gg, Michelle's in lylo.
This is direct info from scum chat, what a nice slip!

I'm a townie and I'd be surprised if they didn't soup tonight

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:02 pm Lol I mean @made there's def a valid mechanical argument to let you two resolve overnight so we get a guaranteed save rather than risking it from the pov of those of us who don't know for sure. Don't fault me for thinking of it that way, it's the safer play, but I do believe you more so meh
Mafia is souping tonight. Soup can't be protected/deflected or anything of that mess. I'm dying regardless. I
f michelle lives and I die, then i get targeted by Janitor, that's gg, Michelle's in lylo.

Is this true? About docs not being able to protect from soupkill?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:04 pm I have a lot of problems with this but if you're really going to make a half-assed case against me based on nonsense and then just brush aside the response I spent my lunch break on, I guess I don't really have a response to that.

Please don't skip dinner too

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:58 pm [VOTE: kylemii] aubergine

yeah I think we should let the doc claims resolve/give them a night anyway. and I still think it's possible made is another town role fpsing and missing some possibility. Michelle is scummy otherwise so occam's razor could just be made is real but I don't feel like chancing it atm.

I think this works if we're confident on Kyle or someone else in their stead. If we're not, I think it makes sense to stick with Michelle/Made.

I want others to weigh in though, there's still a lot of players who haven't yet.

We'd be guaranteed to get a doc protect if we do that I think

Do we just not chop either of them and let mafia decide if they actually want to kill one tonight and expose the other?

I also believe that Michelle and Made should not claim who they targeted last not in an effort to keep the option of a successful protect open tonight.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:18 pm okay but actually tho, can we just agree to stop talking till tomorrow. These role claims are gonna make me cry

Do you feel strongly that Kyle is town? Your claim came on the heels of the wagon moving to his name, and honestly felt like a response to that.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Yeah, Made's probably right here. I definitely see why he wouldn't want to claim, given the role involved.

On one hand, Made has expressed discomfort about cc'ing, which makes sense from someone whose role was claimed.

But on the other hand, that apprehension didn't come immediately is what I'm concerned about.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:30 ami hate it here

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:36 pm [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:37 pm today might be the day we have to vote 112...

Made, these are your next 3 posts after Michelle claimed. If she had claimed your role, why would 112 be the option for you here?

Ugh, are kyle and Made teammates?

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE

I AM THE REAL MICHELLE

*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

What do you feel about the possibility of disinformation and stuff?

chard just looks good overall as well.

radishes and chard are two of my favorite vegetables. Definitely both S-tier

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:42 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:40 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:33 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:31 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:27 pmSo is the assumption that mafia know there is a lost wolf and it's 112? I'm having trouble seeing the issue here.
why is this stated as a hypothetical?

It's a question and an observation.
do you think it's possible that mafia doesn't know that there's a lost wolf, or that it's not 112?
How would that be possible? Roles are posted on page 1.

This is BK's only interaction with Kyle. I skipped it earlier because it was kinda meh. I still feel that way.

But the zen tell...

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